Pro-US Infantino (FIFA's President) Accused of Corruption

[Shofercia]

Dude, once you get out of school no one cares.

Football (actual football, not soccer) is the sport people will burn down cities over.

Apparently football (actual football, not that stuff where you hold the ball in your hands and run with it on the field) is so not cared about, that people who do not care about it, have to tell other people that they don't care about it

Blaat - you're missing his point. If people don't burn down cities for it - it's just not a popular sport in America. Is your city still standing? Clearly, you have no popular sports!



Just for you:

[Snazzy Blaat]

Apparently football (actual football, not that stuff where you hold the ball in your hands and run with it on the field) is so not cared about, that people who do not care about it, have to tell other people that they don't care about it

Blaat - you're missing his point. If people don't burn down cities for it - it's just not a popular sport in America. Is your city still standing? Clearly, you have no popular sports!



Just for you:

Given that I live in Berlin, apparently the popular sport around here is conquering Soviet Russia. It's when this place got quite burned down

[Vassenor]

But didn't FIFA say there was no corruption anywhere in FIFA?

[MERIZoC]

iirc Morocco was promised the cup a bit ago but it went to Russia instead? Or one of the other countries, can't remember what year it was for. I would be perfectly happy with it in the US, since, you know, that's close to home.


Why do these get votes?

Because FIFA has strange notions of the term country.

Curacao and Aruba are, but Sint-Maarten isn't. Huh? What?

All three have the exact same status (seperate states inside the Kingdom of Netherlands).

But FIFA changed a rule regarding who gets to be in, and Aruba was grandfathered, Curacao inherited the now grandfathered spot of the now defunct Netherlands Antilles.

Strange, but those are still technically countries. The American ones are territories.

[Shofercia]

http://www.nba.com/article/2017/04/13/n ... ght-season



NFL: Attendance of 17,253,425 and here's your source: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/ ... ndance.htm

The people attendance said games aren't usually high school students. Dude, I live in California. People here are crazy for NBA, just as they are for NFL.

Are you just going to keep carting out different links?

That pales in comparison to the 103 million who watched the superbowl.

And how many people watch other football games? The Superbowl is an American Tradition. You're throwing that out there, like Hasan Minaj was throwing out a single massively watched soccer game, as proof of women's soccer being profitable on a league-wide level. And you're failing to grasp the irony. You're using a single example to pretend that it's a trend.

[Snazzy Blaat]

Because FIFA has strange notions of the term country.

Curacao and Aruba are, but Sint-Maarten isn't. Huh? What?

All three have the exact same status (seperate states inside the Kingdom of Netherlands).

But FIFA changed a rule regarding who gets to be in, and Aruba was grandfathered, Curacao inherited the now grandfathered spot of the now defunct Netherlands Antilles.

Strange, but those are still technically countries. The American ones are territories.

The strange thing is that one of them is not allowed to be in, while the other two are.

[Kramanica]

Are you just going to keep carting out different links?

That pales in comparison to the 103 million who watched the superbowl.

And how many people watch other football games? The Superbowl is an American Tradition. You're throwing that out there, like Hasan Minaj was throwing out a single massively watched soccer game, as proof of women's soccer being profitable on a league-wide level. And you're failing to grasp the irony. You're using a single example to pretend that it's a trend.

And tell me why is the Superbowl a national tradition, while soccer-related events are not?

[Shofercia]

But didn't FIFA say there was no corruption anywhere in FIFA?

There's also no corruption in the IOC. The hotels just volunteer the penthouse rooms for honored guests

Strange, but those are still technically countries. The American ones are territories.

The strange thing is that one of them is not allowed to be in, while the other two are.

Boycott FIFA! Long Live Sint-Maarten

[Albrenia]

And how many people watch other football games? The Superbowl is an American Tradition. You're throwing that out there, like Hasan Minaj was throwing out a single massively watched soccer game, as proof of women's soccer being profitable on a league-wide level. And you're failing to grasp the irony. You're using a single example to pretend that it's a trend.

And tell me why is the Superbowl a national tradition, while soccer-related events are not?

Because Americans love a sport which means they don't have to compete with the rest of the world as much?

[Kramanica]

And tell me why is the Superbowl a national tradition, while soccer-related events are not?

Because Americans love a sport which means they don't have to compete with the rest of the world as much?

You wound me, sir.

[Snazzy Blaat]

And tell me why is the Superbowl a national tradition, while soccer-related events are not?

Because Americans love a sport which means they don't have to compete with the rest of the world as much?

It's probably the easiest way to be the best at something.

The Super Bowl is the American version of Korfball

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korfball

[Shofercia]

And how many people watch other football games? The Superbowl is an American Tradition. You're throwing that out there, like Hasan Minaj was throwing out a single massively watched soccer game, as proof of women's soccer being profitable on a league-wide level. And you're failing to grasp the irony. You're using a single example to pretend that it's a trend.

And tell me why is the Superbowl a national tradition, while soccer-related events are not?

High Quality Marketing. Also, once again, you're using a single example, while trying to pretend, rather desperately, that it's a general trend. It's not. College basketball was hardly watched until March Madness was introduced. Now it's heavily watched. March Madness gets a total of 233 million views: https://www.statista.com/statistics/251 ... -per-game/

[Shofercia]

And tell me why is the Superbowl a national tradition, while soccer-related events are not?

Because Americans love a sport which means they don't have to compete with the rest of the world as much?

Ouch!

Because Americans love a sport which means they don't have to compete with the rest of the world as much?

It's probably the easiest way to be the best at something.

The Super Bowl is the American version of Korfball

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korfball

You guys are brutal

[Kramanica]

And tell me why is the Superbowl a national tradition, while soccer-related events are not?

High Quality Marketing. Also, once again, you're using a single example, while trying to pretend, rather desperately, that it's a general trend. It's not. College basketball was hardly watched until March Madness was introduced. Now it's heavily watched. March Madness gets a total of 233 million views: https://www.statista.com/statistics/251 ... -per-game/

Over the total year.

I'm not pretending anything. I'm just saying soccer ain't all that popular in America.

[Thermodolia]

Literally no one in the US cares about soccer so if this is some way of sticking it to America you've fallen pretty short.

You have no idea what you are talking about. Soccer is crazy popular in several parts of the US, mainly in the South and South west. Here in Atlanta Soccer matches have no trouble filling the stadiums.

I really want the US to host a FIFA World Cup, mainly because Atlanta would be one of the semi-final cities.

[Shofercia]

High Quality Marketing. Also, once again, you're using a single example, while trying to pretend, rather desperately, that it's a general trend. It's not. College basketball was hardly watched until March Madness was introduced. Now it's heavily watched. March Madness gets a total of 233 million views: https://www.statista.com/statistics/251 ... -per-game/

Over the total year.

I'm not pretending anything. I'm just saying soccer ain't all that popular in America.

You ever wonder why it's called March Madness? Hint: it only lasts a month. Over the course of the year, the NBA gets 1.7 billion views. As far as soccer is concerned, international matches are quite profitable, and we are talking about billions of dollars when it comes to the World Cup.

https://www.ussoccer.com/stories/2018/0 ... th-america

Hosting the 2026 FIFA World Cup™ could generate more than $5 billion in short-term economic activity, including supporting approximately 40,000 jobs and more than $1 billion in incremental worker earnings across North America, according to a study done by The Boston Consulting Group (BCG), a leading global management consulting firm. Canada, Mexico and the United States are bidding to host the 48-team tournament in 2026, which will be the largest in FIFA World Cup™ history. The overall net benefit to the region would be $3 – $4 billion.

Now Kramanica - please explain to me why that doesn't matter.

[Thermodolia]

It's soccer.

People have gone to war over it

[Shofercia]

It's soccer.

People have gone to war over it

Ahh Honduras. "Hey, let's kill those putos over soccer! Let's do it! For 100 hours!"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_War

[Kramanica]

Over the total year.

I'm not pretending anything. I'm just saying soccer ain't all that popular in America.

You ever wonder why it's called March Madness? Hint: it only lasts a month. Over the course of the year, the NBA gets 1.7 billion views. As far as soccer is concerned, international matches are quite profitable, and we are talking about billions of dollars when it comes to the World Cup.

https://www.ussoccer.com/stories/2018/0 ... th-america

Hosting the 2026 FIFA World Cup™ could generate more than $5 billion in short-term economic activity, including supporting approximately 40,000 jobs and more than $1 billion in incremental worker earnings across North America, according to a study done by The Boston Consulting Group (BCG), a leading global management consulting firm. Canada, Mexico and the United States are bidding to host the 48-team tournament in 2026, which will be the largest in FIFA World Cup™ history. The overall net benefit to the region would be $3 – $4 billion.

Now Kramanica - please explain to me why that doesn't matter.

I didn't say it doesn't matter. I'm just say it pales in comparison to other sports here.

[Thermodolia]

Over the total year.

I'm not pretending anything. I'm just saying soccer ain't all that popular in America.

You ever wonder why it's called March Madness? Hint: it only lasts a month. Over the course of the year, the NBA gets 1.7 billion views. As far as soccer is concerned, international matches are quite profitable, and we are talking about billions of dollars when it comes to the World Cup.

https://www.ussoccer.com/stories/2018/0 ... th-america

Hosting the 2026 FIFA World Cup™ could generate more than $5 billion in short-term economic activity, including supporting approximately 40,000 jobs and more than $1 billion in incremental worker earnings across North America, according to a study done by The Boston Consulting Group (BCG), a leading global management consulting firm. Canada, Mexico and the United States are bidding to host the 48-team tournament in 2026, which will be the largest in FIFA World Cup™ history. The overall net benefit to the region would be $3 – $4 billion.

Now Kramanica - please explain to me why that doesn't matter.

I really really want the US to host it. It’s a major economic benefit plus there’s the National pride that goes along with it.

[Snazzy Blaat]

You ever wonder why it's called March Madness? Hint: it only lasts a month. Over the course of the year, the NBA gets 1.7 billion views. As far as soccer is concerned, international matches are quite profitable, and we are talking about billions of dollars when it comes to the World Cup.

https://www.ussoccer.com/stories/2018/0 ... th-america



Now Kramanica - please explain to me why that doesn't matter.

I didn't say it doesn't matter. I'm just say it pales in comparison to other sports here.

That's nice. Other sports are not the topic of this thread.

[Shofercia]

You ever wonder why it's called March Madness? Hint: it only lasts a month. Over the course of the year, the NBA gets 1.7 billion views. As far as soccer is concerned, international matches are quite profitable, and we are talking about billions of dollars when it comes to the World Cup.

https://www.ussoccer.com/stories/2018/0 ... th-america



Now Kramanica - please explain to me why that doesn't matter.

I didn't say it doesn't matter. I'm just say it pales in comparison to other sports here.

So when you said,

Literally no one in the US cares about soccer

you really meant: "it matters!" Gotcha.

[Shofercia]

You ever wonder why it's called March Madness? Hint: it only lasts a month. Over the course of the year, the NBA gets 1.7 billion views. As far as soccer is concerned, international matches are quite profitable, and we are talking about billions of dollars when it comes to the World Cup.

https://www.ussoccer.com/stories/2018/0 ... th-america



Now Kramanica - please explain to me why that doesn't matter.

I really really want the US to host it. It’s a major economic benefit plus there’s the National pride that goes along with it.

A lot of people want the US to host it. The OP's question was "should the US use a technicality to win hosting rights and risk a potential boycott?"

If the question was just "do you want to host it?" I think it'd just be the entire thread vs Kramanica

[Thermodolia]

You ever wonder why it's called March Madness? Hint: it only lasts a month. Over the course of the year, the NBA gets 1.7 billion views. As far as soccer is concerned, international matches are quite profitable, and we are talking about billions of dollars when it comes to the World Cup.

https://www.ussoccer.com/stories/2018/0 ... th-america



Now Kramanica - please explain to me why that doesn't matter.

I didn't say it doesn't matter. I'm just say it pales in comparison to other sports here.

Again it depends on your region. American Football is popular all over the US while hockey is only popular in the northern half of the US, NASCAR is only popular in the south, baseball is popular on the coasts, basketball is very popular in the southern half of the US and in the northeast, and soccer is very popular in the sun belt states.

To say it doesn’t matter because it’s not American football is downright silly

[Thermodolia]

I really really want the US to host it. It’s a major economic benefit plus there’s the National pride that goes along with it.

A lot of people want the US to host it. The OP's question was "should the US use a technicality to win hosting rights and risk a potential boycott?"

If the question was just "do you want to host it?" I think it'd just be the entire thread vs Kramanica

Yes, but then again I’m the type of person who doesn’t care how we do it just that we win.