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Gun Control n Stuff - Only 2 Options Pick Carefully

If my neighbors dog craps on my lawn I have a god-given right to respond with the use of force up to and including recreational nuclear warheads
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50%
Guns are literally the embodiment of all evil ever created by mankind, and when the last gun is finally destroyed the entire world will be at peace
210
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I'm lame and choose not to use a poll with wild stereotypes about both sides because I'm lame
424
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Total votes : 1277

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Postby Claorica » Sat Jun 08, 2019 11:15 am

West Leas Oros 2 wrote:
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as polarized as we are, let's just call it all a massive failure and return all the states to who they belonged to before they became the US (Leaving Texas independent... because Texas.)

We give Texas back to Mexico, they'd probably secede anyway.



Well, I'd say leave them independent to save Mexican lives.
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Sat Jun 08, 2019 11:35 am

West Leas Oros 2 wrote:
Claorica wrote:
as polarized as we are, let's just call it all a massive failure and return all the states to who they belonged to before they became the US (Leaving Texas independent... because Texas.)

We give Texas back to Mexico, they'd probably secede anyway.

No, this time the Texans are taking over Mexico.
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Postby Gig em Aggies » Sat Jun 08, 2019 11:59 am

The Two Jerseys wrote:
West Leas Oros 2 wrote:We give Texas back to Mexico, they'd probably secede anyway.

No, this time the Texans are taking over Mexico.

we did it once we can do it again yeeeehaaaaaaw saddle up Boys were goin down to Mexico City
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Sat Jun 08, 2019 12:17 pm

Gig em Aggies wrote:
The Two Jerseys wrote:No, this time the Texans are taking over Mexico.

we did it once we can do it again yeeeehaaaaaaw saddle up Boys were goin down to Mexico City

Mexico City?

You mean Texaco City. 8)
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sat Jun 08, 2019 12:21 pm

I would just like to remind you all that 3D printers are only $200 for decent ones and you can now make Glocks frames and all other sorts of goodies with them. Gun control is dying and you should join the cool kids who are killing it.
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Postby Gig em Aggies » Sat Jun 08, 2019 1:03 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:I would just like to remind you all that 3D printers are only $200 for decent ones and you can now make Glocks frames and all other sorts of goodies with them. Gun control is dying and you should join the cool kids who are killing it.

what about a 3d .50 cal?
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Postby The Chuck » Sat Jun 08, 2019 1:17 pm

Gig em Aggies wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:I would just like to remind you all that 3D printers are only $200 for decent ones and you can now make Glocks frames and all other sorts of goodies with them. Gun control is dying and you should join the cool kids who are killing it.

what about a 3d .50 cal?


Well... what type of .50 we talking? .50 Beowulf, BMG, AE, etc... *goes back to working in undisclosed shed*
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Postby Scomagia » Sat Jun 08, 2019 1:50 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:I would just like to remind you all that 3D printers are only $200 for decent ones and you can now make Glocks frames and all other sorts of goodies with them. Gun control is dying and you should join the cool kids who are killing it.

Out of curiosity, what are the Federal laws around this?
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sat Jun 08, 2019 1:57 pm

Scomagia wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:I would just like to remind you all that 3D printers are only $200 for decent ones and you can now make Glocks frames and all other sorts of goodies with them. Gun control is dying and you should join the cool kids who are killing it.

Out of curiosity, what are the Federal laws around this?


You can make title 1 guns for yourself with no problems at the federal level. Due to the sheer anonymity of it all I know some people have started moving into making NFA items with 3D printers as well, which is super illegal but impossible to stop. I've seen working suppressors where the baffles are made on a printer and it hasn't been released yet but I know a guy with a working full auto PLA AR lower.
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Postby Free Arabian Nation » Sat Jun 08, 2019 2:19 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Scomagia wrote:Out of curiosity, what are the Federal laws around this?


You can make title 1 guns for yourself with no problems at the federal level. Due to the sheer anonymity of it all I know some people have started moving into making NFA items with 3D printers as well, which is super illegal but impossible to stop. I've seen working suppressors where the baffles are made on a printer and it hasn't been released yet but I know a guy with a working full auto PLA AR lower.

Yeah, sure. You "Know" a "guy".

This totally isn't a cover-up to start building arms for the American Revolution 2: Electric Boogaloo.
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Postby Gig em Aggies » Sat Jun 08, 2019 2:58 pm

Free Arabian Nation wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
You can make title 1 guns for yourself with no problems at the federal level. Due to the sheer anonymity of it all I know some people have started moving into making NFA items with 3D printers as well, which is super illegal but impossible to stop. I've seen working suppressors where the baffles are made on a printer and it hasn't been released yet but I know a guy with a working full auto PLA AR lower.

Yeah, sure. You "Know" a "guy".

This totally isn't a cover-up to start building arms for the American Revolution 2: Electric Boogaloo.

no its more like https://youtu.be/0r73p95I-eE
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Postby Hurtful Thoughts » Sat Jun 08, 2019 4:25 pm

West Leas Oros 2 wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote:It is the natural order of the day when those who live life based on emotion first, facts last. A terrible way to live life.

Case in point:
Trump: ‘We’re Going to Seriously Look’ At Banning Suppressors

SIGH!

Shame how many people still consider Trump a "pro 2a" politician.

Unless that's in the context of looking at it under due scrutiny in regards to the 2nd amendment.

It's also something he said to get Piers Morgan, in Britian (where suppressors are not only legal, but required) to STFU about the subject and get back to celebrating the 75th anniversary of D-day and promoting civillian ownership of firearms to prevent Paris Attack levels of attrocity.

So not so much a look at creating a ban, but seriously looking at the existing ban in compare to the UK's non-ban.
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Postby Grinning Dragon » Sat Jun 08, 2019 4:49 pm

Hurtful Thoughts wrote:
West Leas Oros 2 wrote:Shame how many people still consider Trump a "pro 2a" politician.

Unless that's in the context of looking at it under due scrutiny in regards to the 2nd amendment.

It's also something he said to get Piers Morgan, in Britian (where suppressors are not only legal, but required) to STFU about the subject and get back to celebrating the 75th anniversary of D-day and promoting civillian ownership of firearms to prevent Paris Attack levels of attrocity.


What do we get when an anti gunner who happens to be the senior policy advisor for the bobble head gun group giffords gun control group writes a screed full of misinformation and lies about "silencers"? Pretty much whatever comes to mind calling into question this person's intelligence, wouldn't be wrong.
The silencer used in Virginia Beach was legal. A survivor says it was lethal.
Exactly how loud doesn’t matter, said David Chipman, now a senior policy adviser with Giffords Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence. Silencers make gunshots harder to recognize. It changes the sound from a crack to more of a thud, he said.

"The gun does not sound gun-like. It takes the edge out of the tone," Chipman said, adding that silencers are rarely used in mass shootings. "This is how I would describe it: It makes a gun sort of sound like a nail gun."


Now, it's obvious, chipman shouldn't be writing things he clearly knows nothing about let alone offer any facts. His article was purposely meant to mislead. On to some context:
Unsupressed firearms have a dbA level of 160+ (in the immediate hearing damage range) A nail gun has a dbA level of 100. A suppressed .45cal pistol has a dbA level of 135, which is above the pain threshold, a 30-35 dBA difference between a nail gun and a suppressed pistol will be perceived as at least eight times louder to the human ear since decibels are a logarithmic scale, so sound levels increase in a non-linear fashion. A 3 dBA increase doubles the sound pressure level. (Although most people perceive a 6 to 10 dBA increase as double the noise level.)

But then again, anti gunners are never factual, nor do they do any research or attempt to learn about the subject of firearms, as they say you can always tell when an anti gunner is lying, their mouths are moving and a slew of ignorance spills forth.
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Sat Jun 08, 2019 5:32 pm

Grinning Dragon wrote:
Hurtful Thoughts wrote:Unless that's in the context of looking at it under due scrutiny in regards to the 2nd amendment.

It's also something he said to get Piers Morgan, in Britian (where suppressors are not only legal, but required) to STFU about the subject and get back to celebrating the 75th anniversary of D-day and promoting civillian ownership of firearms to prevent Paris Attack levels of attrocity.


What do we get when an anti gunner who happens to be the senior policy advisor for the bobble head gun group giffords gun control group writes a screed full of misinformation and lies about "silencers"? Pretty much whatever comes to mind calling into question this person's intelligence, wouldn't be wrong.
The silencer used in Virginia Beach was legal. A survivor says it was lethal.
Exactly how loud doesn’t matter, said David Chipman, now a senior policy adviser with Giffords Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence. Silencers make gunshots harder to recognize. It changes the sound from a crack to more of a thud, he said.

"The gun does not sound gun-like. It takes the edge out of the tone," Chipman said, adding that silencers are rarely used in mass shootings. "This is how I would describe it: It makes a gun sort of sound like a nail gun."


Now, it's obvious, chipman shouldn't be writing things he clearly knows nothing about let alone offer any facts. His article was purposely meant to mislead. On to some context:
Unsupressed firearms have a dbA level of 160+ (in the immediate hearing damage range) A nail gun has a dbA level of 100. A suppressed .45cal pistol has a dbA level of 135, which is above the pain threshold, a 30-35 dBA difference between a nail gun and a suppressed pistol will be perceived as at least eight times louder to the human ear since decibels are a logarithmic scale, so sound levels increase in a non-linear fashion. A 3 dBA increase doubles the sound pressure level. (Although most people perceive a 6 to 10 dBA increase as double the noise level.)

But then again, anti gunners are never factual, nor do they do any research or attempt to learn about the subject of firearms, as they say you can always tell when an anti gunner is lying, their mouths are moving and a slew of ignorance spills forth.

I suppressors make guns go thwip-thwip, shouldn't Gabby Giffords have been able to dodge those bullets in slo-motion like Neo?
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Postby Grinning Dragon » Sat Jun 08, 2019 5:33 pm

Aww, isn't that cute?
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Imagine this: You head to your local gun retailer to buy bullets for your hunting rifle, and as you pick up the ammunition box, you are confronted with the image of a bloodied young woman in a hospital bed, the survivor of a near-fatal domestic shooting. A line of text below the photo reads: “In homes where domestic violence occurs, a gun increases the risk of women being killed by 5 times.”

If a pair of advertising executives have their way, this would be the future of ammunition buying in the United States.


Aside from the bullshit made up 5x more likely malarkey, perhaps such a venture could start a collector series as in collect all 6 graphic pics on ammo boxes.

Who am I kidding, it's fucking stupid and the brain child of fucking retards.

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Postby Grinning Dragon » Sat Jun 08, 2019 5:37 pm

The Two Jerseys wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote:
What do we get when an anti gunner who happens to be the senior policy advisor for the bobble head gun group giffords gun control group writes a screed full of misinformation and lies about "silencers"? Pretty much whatever comes to mind calling into question this person's intelligence, wouldn't be wrong.
The silencer used in Virginia Beach was legal. A survivor says it was lethal.


Now, it's obvious, chipman shouldn't be writing things he clearly knows nothing about let alone offer any facts. His article was purposely meant to mislead. On to some context:
Unsupressed firearms have a dbA level of 160+ (in the immediate hearing damage range) A nail gun has a dbA level of 100. A suppressed .45cal pistol has a dbA level of 135, which is above the pain threshold, a 30-35 dBA difference between a nail gun and a suppressed pistol will be perceived as at least eight times louder to the human ear since decibels are a logarithmic scale, so sound levels increase in a non-linear fashion. A 3 dBA increase doubles the sound pressure level. (Although most people perceive a 6 to 10 dBA increase as double the noise level.)

But then again, anti gunners are never factual, nor do they do any research or attempt to learn about the subject of firearms, as they say you can always tell when an anti gunner is lying, their mouths are moving and a slew of ignorance spills forth.

I suppressors make guns go thwip-thwip, shouldn't Gabby Giffords have been able to dodge those bullets in slo-motion like Neo?

One would think so. Not so much anymore for her, since that piece of lead still rattling around in her skull would throw off her balance.
Which begs the question, if in the not so far distance future when rail guns/laser guns become a thing in the civilian market, will there be a federal law that says those type of firearms must make a loud "pew-pew" sound?

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Postby Aclion » Sat Jun 08, 2019 5:40 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:I would just like to remind you all that 3D printers are only $200 for decent ones and you can now make Glocks frames and all other sorts of goodies with them. Gun control is dying and you should join the cool kids who are killing it.

You know what I want. A 40mm bofors on a quad mount.

You know... for fathers day.
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Sat Jun 08, 2019 6:17 pm

Aclion wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:I would just like to remind you all that 3D printers are only $200 for decent ones and you can now make Glocks frames and all other sorts of goodies with them. Gun control is dying and you should join the cool kids who are killing it.

You know what I want. A 40mm bofors on a quad mount.

You know... for fathers day.

It really is the perfect home security weapon.

Burglars? Fuck em!

The getaway driver? Fuck him and the getaway car!

And are they casing my house with a drone?!? *elevates barrels*
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Postby Loben The 2nd » Sat Jun 08, 2019 6:18 pm

Aclion wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:I would just like to remind you all that 3D printers are only $200 for decent ones and you can now make Glocks frames and all other sorts of goodies with them. Gun control is dying and you should join the cool kids who are killing it.

You know what I want. A 40mm bofors on a quad mount.

You know... for fathers day.


Can I get a....mufuggin.....M103 tank?

For uh....

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Postby The Two Jerseys » Sat Jun 08, 2019 6:20 pm

Loben The 2nd wrote:
Aclion wrote:You know what I want. A 40mm bofors on a quad mount.

You know... for fathers day.


Can I get a....mufuggin.....M103 tank?

For uh....

Science.

I want a Doom Turtle!

Or even better: BOB SEMPLE TANK!
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Postby Big Jim P » Sun Jun 09, 2019 12:19 am

The Two Jerseys wrote:
Aclion wrote:You know what I want. A 40mm bofors on a quad mount.

You know... for fathers day.

It really is the perfect home security weapon.

Burglars? Fuck em!

The getaway driver? Fuck him and the getaway car!

And are they casing my house with a drone?!? *elevates barrels*


I would want a Vulcan 20mm cannon for the drone. Not tha the Bofors wouldn't work, but I would get two cannons my way. 8)
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Sun Jun 09, 2019 7:16 am

Big Jim P wrote:
The Two Jerseys wrote:It really is the perfect home security weapon.

Burglars? Fuck em!

The getaway driver? Fuck him and the getaway car!

And are they casing my house with a drone?!? *elevates barrels*


I would want a Vulcan 20mm cannon for the drone. Not tha the Bofors wouldn't work, but I would get two cannons my way. 8)

You know what? Let's just live on a battleship!

Burglars? *fires 20mm*

Their getaway boat? *fires 40mm*

Their hideout? *fires 5" secondary battery*

That drone casing us? *loads proximity fuzes into 5"...*

Their hometown? *trains 16" main battery...*
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Postby The Chuck » Sun Jun 09, 2019 7:25 am

The Two Jerseys wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
I would want a Vulcan 20mm cannon for the drone. Not tha the Bofors wouldn't work, but I would get two cannons my way. 8)

You know what? Let's just live on a battleship!

Burglars? *fires 20mm*

Their getaway boat? *fires 40mm*

Their hideout? *fires 5" secondary battery*

That drone casing us? *loads proximity fuzes into 5"...*

Their hometown? *trains 16" main battery...*


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Postby Big Jim P » Sun Jun 09, 2019 7:54 am

The Two Jerseys wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
I would want a Vulcan 20mm cannon for the drone. Not tha the Bofors wouldn't work, but I would get two cannons my way. 8)

You know what? Let's just live on a battleship!

Burglars? *fires 20mm*

Their getaway boat? *fires 40mm*

Their hideout? *fires 5" secondary battery*

That drone casing us? *loads proximity fuzes into 5"...*

Their hometown? *trains 16" main battery...*


Sounds good to me.
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Postby Gig em Aggies » Sun Jun 09, 2019 11:03 am

Big Jim P wrote:
The Two Jerseys wrote:You know what? Let's just live on a battleship!

Burglars? *fires 20mm*

Their getaway boat? *fires 40mm*

Their hideout? *fires 5" secondary battery*

That drone casing us? *loads proximity fuzes into 5"...*

Their hometown? *trains 16" main battery...*


Sounds good to me.

don't forget the ground forces just stick a couple 40mil grenade launchers and a .30 on one of these bad boys fresh off the printer
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