Gun Control III - the Gunnening

[Valgora]

Yeah, they were regulated and then your side later banned them anyways. Shit like that is why we don't come to the table anymore.

Regulation of guns doesn't do much. People can slip under the lines. And we haven't banned them, because as you can see there was a shooting in Parkland about a month ago. Don't blame "our side", try to win me over. Why should i support gun rights?

A. It’s a human right
B. The Second Amendment
C. Self-defense, from other people and the government
D. Do I really need to fuckin’ continue?

[The Two Jerseys]

if you read my comment fully you have seen that people who want to commit mass murder will find a way to get a gun even if they have to steal it. You do know that The deadliest school shooting in history was the massacre at Virginia Tech right? The shooter Sung We Cho used two handguns to kill all of those people. The school shooting that had about the most positive aspect was the shooting at the University of Texas clock tower where Charles Whitman used a scoped bolt action rifle to kill many people as well. Just because you ban assault weapons doesn't mean mass shootings magical disappear that's like banning money from Fatty on a Train but he still gets money or like wishing unicorns existed or that I would get a beautiful girl who likes me but none of those came true. Wishful thinking won't solve anything.

You are not going to end mass shootings, but you can reduce the likelihood. It is not wishful thinking. Wishful thinking is supporting the status quo and thinking this will stop by doing nothing.

You're patting yourself on the back for reducing the number of airliner crashes, while ignoring all the cars crashing on the road outside.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Yeah, they were regulated and then your side later banned them anyways. Shit like that is why we don't come to the table anymore.

Regulation of guns doesn't do much. People can slip under the lines. And we haven't banned them, because as you can see there was a shooting in Parkland about a month ago. Don't blame "our side", try to win me over. Why should i support gun rights?

We absolutely did ban them, the Hughes Amendment to FOPA in 1986 banned any and all new additions to the machinegun registry established by the National Firearms Act in 1934 despite the fact that literally 1 crime was committed with a legal MG in that time. When the anti-gun side pulls shit like that why should anyone come to the table and try to "compromise"?

[United Citizens of North America]

Wishful think is think that a band-aid solution will solve the problem.
A car can easily be used as a deadly weapon - remember Nice, France. And don’t forget about explosives.

I am focusing on one aspect of the problem. There is no one solution, just a variety.

[Prosorusiya]

Just gonna put this out here, I’ve watched plenty of nutty videos on YouTube, including some of various militant groups demonstrating the effectiveness of Soviet AT weapons while praising their chosen deity and have yet to become a terrorist. In fact, I spend a lot of my time here on NS trying to learn about counter terror tactics.

You could probably force me to watch IS recruiting videos and I still wouldn’t join, because the cultural context in which I live and my life experiences are so vastly different from the target audience that there is absolutely no danger of it radicaliziing me, except perhaps against them.

Plus I’m pretty sure a atheist commie brony japonfile college educated metrosexual Trotsky look-alike is IS’s worst nightmare.

[United Citizens of North America]

Regulation of guns doesn't do much. People can slip under the lines. And we haven't banned them, because as you can see there was a shooting in Parkland about a month ago. Don't blame "our side", try to win me over. Why should i support gun rights?

We absolutely did ban them, the Hughes Amendment to FOPA in 1986 banned any and all new additions to the machinegun registry established by the National Firearms Act in 1934 despite the fact that literally 1 crime was committed with a legal MG in that time. When the anti-gun side pulls shit like that why should anyone come to the table and try to "compromise"?

I am talking about semi-automatic weapons. Machine guns have been banned since 1934. Remember how gangsters used machine guns in the 1920's? That's why they were banned. And, for the last time WMA, I am not anti-gun, I am pro gun-safety.

[United Citizens of North America]

Regulation of guns doesn't do much. People can slip under the lines. And we haven't banned them, because as you can see there was a shooting in Parkland about a month ago. Don't blame "our side", try to win me over. Why should i support gun rights?

A. It’s a human right
B. The Second Amendment
C. Self-defense, from other people and the government
D. Do I really need to fuckin’ continue?

I disagree, but at least i learned something from y'all.

[Valgora]

We absolutely did ban them, the Hughes Amendment to FOPA in 1986 banned any and all new additions to the machinegun registry established by the National Firearms Act in 1934 despite the fact that literally 1 crime was committed with a legal MG in that time. When the anti-gun side pulls shit like that why should anyone come to the table and try to "compromise"?

I am talking about semi-automatic weapons. Machine guns have been banned since 1934. Remember how gangsters used machine guns in the 1920's? That's why they were banned. And, for the last time WMA, I am not anti-gun, I am pro gun-safety.

Gangsters using Tommy Guns is because of Hollywood. Sure a few used them, but only a few.

And quit with the “I’m not anti-gun, I’m pro-gun safety” bullshit.

[Washington Resistance Army]

We absolutely did ban them, the Hughes Amendment to FOPA in 1986 banned any and all new additions to the machinegun registry established by the National Firearms Act in 1934 despite the fact that literally 1 crime was committed with a legal MG in that time. When the anti-gun side pulls shit like that why should anyone come to the table and try to "compromise"?

I am talking about semi-automatic weapons. Machine guns have been banned since 1934. Remember how gangsters used machine guns in the 1920's? That's why they were banned. And, for the last time WMA, I am not anti-gun, I am pro gun-safety.

No, machineguns were not banned in 1934. They were regulated but you could still buy them new from the factory. Any new purchases were banned in 1986 for no reason by your side. Why should I care about anything your side has to say when there's a lot of history of previous compromises and such things later being attacked?

[The Two Jerseys]

And, for the last time WMA, I am not anti-gun, I am pro gun-safety.

Yet you only want to ban the weapons that are least likely to kill someone...

[Zyr and Pony]

I am talking about semi-automatic weapons. Machine guns have been banned since 1934. Remember how gangsters used machine guns in the 1920's? That's why they were banned. And, for the last time WMA, I am not anti-gun, I am pro gun-safety.

Gangsters using Tommy Guns is because of Hollywood. Sure a few used them, but only a few.

And quit with the “I’m not anti-gun, I’m pro-gun safety” bullshit.

It's not bullshit if it's his actual position.

And I wish the anti-gun-control crowd would stop strawmanning the pro-gun control side by claiming they all want to ban guns, in spite of the fact that almost none have actually advocated for that.

[The Two Jerseys]

I am talking about semi-automatic weapons. Machine guns have been banned since 1934. Remember how gangsters used machine guns in the 1920's? That's why they were banned. And, for the last time WMA, I am not anti-gun, I am pro gun-safety.

Gangsters using Tommy Guns is because of Hollywood. Sure a few used them, but only a few.

And quit with the “I’m not anti-gun, I’m pro-gun safety” bullshit.

Bonnie & Clyde preferred BARs, because a .30-06 round could penetrate auto bodies.

And they stole theirs from National Guard armories, so a ban wouldn't do much good...

[Washington Resistance Army]

Gangsters using Tommy Guns is because of Hollywood. Sure a few used them, but only a few.

And quit with the “I’m not anti-gun, I’m pro-gun safety” bullshit.

Bonnie & Clyde preferred BARs, because a .30-06 round could penetrate auto bodies.

And they stole theirs from National Guard armories, so a ban wouldn't do much good...

Most of the MG's used in crime at the time were stolen if I'm not mistaken actually.

[Valgora]

Gangsters using Tommy Guns is because of Hollywood. Sure a few used them, but only a few.

And quit with the “I’m not anti-gun, I’m pro-gun safety” bullshit.

It's not bullshit if it's his actual position.

And I wish the anti-gun-control crowd would stop strawmanning the pro-gun control side by claiming they all want to ban guns, in spite of the fact that almost none have actually advocated for that.

Calling for banning “assault weapons” is being anti-gun.

[Gig em Aggies]

It's not bullshit if it's his actual position.

And I wish the anti-gun-control crowd would stop strawmanning the pro-gun control side by claiming they all want to ban guns, in spite of the fact that almost none have actually advocated for that.

Calling for banning “assault weapons” is being anti-gun.

i also do remember volatile speak during the I hate the constitution march about first banning assault rifles then banning all guns a hell even a former Supreme Court fell for that bullshit and now he wants to ban the second amendment what so some people can feel safe while infringing the rights of millions.

[The Two Jerseys]

Bonnie & Clyde preferred BARs, because a .30-06 round could penetrate auto bodies.

And they stole theirs from National Guard armories, so a ban wouldn't do much good...

Most of the MG's used in crime at the time were stolen if I'm not mistaken actually.

List price for Thompsons was $200. You're not buying one unless you're making serious dough, in which case you wouldn't be the trigger-happy type in the first place.

[Telconi]

Gangsters using Tommy Guns is because of Hollywood. Sure a few used them, but only a few.

And quit with the “I’m not anti-gun, I’m pro-gun safety” bullshit.

It's not bullshit if it's his actual position.

And I wish the anti-gun-control crowd would stop strawmanning the pro-gun control side by claiming they all want to ban guns, in spite of the fact that almost none have actually advocated for that.

It's inherently contradictory. If he wants to ban guns, he is anti-gun, plain and simple, lying about it doesn't change that.

[Gig em Aggies]

Feast your eyes and ears on this ----> https://youtu.be/kB3USRKZlZI sums up and renders verdict on much of the anti-gun/gun grabbers claims.

[Albrenia]

Feast your eyes and ears on this ----> https://youtu.be/kB3USRKZlZI sums up and renders verdict on much of the anti-gun/gun grabbers claims.

Certainly looks like a fair and balanced source of information, what with the title and uploader.

[The Foxes Swamp]

Regulation of guns doesn't do much. People can slip under the lines. And we haven't banned them, because as you can see there was a shooting in Parkland about a month ago. Don't blame "our side", try to win me over. Why should i support gun rights?

A. It’s a human right
B. The Second Amendment
C. Self-defense, from other people and the government
D. Do I really need to fuckin’ continue?

i get it, if i lived i the usa i would be armed to the teeth but owning a gun is not a human right, the right to life is a human right and when it comes to amendments this word explains itself.

Some regulation could only help.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

A. It’s a human right
B. The Second Amendment
C. Self-defense, from other people and the government
D. Do I really need to fuckin’ continue?

i get it, if i lived i the usa i would be armed to the teeth but owning a gun is not a human right, the right to life is a human right and when it comes to amendments this word explains itself.

Some regulation could only help.

But it hasn't helped.

[Albrenia]

A. It’s a human right
B. The Second Amendment
C. Self-defense, from other people and the government
D. Do I really need to fuckin’ continue?

i get it, if i lived i the usa i would be armed to the teeth but owning a gun is not a human right, the right to life is a human right and when it comes to amendments this word explains itself.

Some regulation could only help.

It's not a human right (at least not in any globally or widely recognised way), but many in the US consider it to be.

[Napkiraly]

A. It’s a human right
B. The Second Amendment
C. Self-defense, from other people and the government
D. Do I really need to fuckin’ continue?

i get it, if i lived i the usa i would be armed to the teeth but owning a gun is not a human right

It is a right for the American public, which is what matters in this context.

[Gun Manufacturers]

The correct term UCNA should have used Mujahidah is either high powered or military grade weaponry. But overall he wants to ban assault weapons for all because of the actions of one little asshat of a person. It seems UCNA doesn't know that is that banning assault weapons won't stop mass murders because there's already hundreds of thousands if not millions of assault weapons in private hands already and what would an AWB do to stop someone who already owns said weapon or how will it stop someone from stealing said weapon.

Most of the assault rifles already out there are in the hands of good people, so i have no problem with that. But a ban in the long run will reduce deaths, because you will not be able to buy the ammo, new parts, or new guns. Prospective shooters in houses without guns would never become shooters. It is like banning Isis online. Either people are radicalised because of the "freedom" to watch isis videos, or people are not, because they cannot learn about the radicalizing beliefs of ISIS.

Some "assault weapons" use the same ammunition as other firearms. For example, the AR15 can be configured to use many different calibers of ammunition from .22lr to .50 Beowulf, as well as several pistol calibers. Therefore, you can't really ban "assault weapon" calibers without banning most ammunition.

Also, wasn't there a federal "assault weapons" ban from 1994-2004 that had a very dubious effect on crime?

[Gun Manufacturers]

Regulation of guns doesn't do much. People can slip under the lines. And we haven't banned them, because as you can see there was a shooting in Parkland about a month ago. Don't blame "our side", try to win me over. Why should i support gun rights?

We absolutely did ban them, the Hughes Amendment to FOPA in 1986 banned any and all new additions to the machinegun registry established by the National Firearms Act in 1934 despite the fact that literally 1 crime was committed with a legal MG in that time. When the anti-gun side pulls shit like that why should anyone come to the table and try to "compromise"?

Actually, that shooting happened AFTER Hughes, in 1988.