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If my neighbors dog craps on my lawn I have a god-given right to respond with the use of force up to and including recreational nuclear warheads
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Guns are literally the embodiment of all evil ever created by mankind, and when the last gun is finally destroyed the entire world will be at peace
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I'm lame and choose not to use a poll with wild stereotypes about both sides because I'm lame
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Postby The Chuck » Sun Mar 17, 2019 4:41 pm

Athonuna wrote:I have no idea what's going on.


I asked everyone what they thought about a piece of legislation from Missouri that promotes forcing Americans 18-30 somethings to buy AR-15s in Missouri.
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Postby The New California Republic » Sun Mar 17, 2019 4:45 pm

Athonuna wrote:I have no idea what's going on.

If you are coming into the thread on page 353 and asking that question, then you better set aside considerable time for some reading...
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Postby Musselshell » Sun Mar 17, 2019 7:04 pm

Don't the swiss issue rifles to citizens of that age range?

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Postby Libertas Omnium Maximus » Sun Mar 17, 2019 7:50 pm

The Chuck wrote:
Athonuna wrote:I have no idea what's going on.


I asked everyone what they thought about a piece of legislation from Missouri that promotes forcing Americans 18-30 somethings to buy AR-15s in Missouri.


I am pro-gun rights but not pro-compulsory ownership, it sounds like a great way to have a bunch of teens shoot themselves.
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Postby Salus Maior » Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:35 pm

The Chuck wrote:
Athonuna wrote:I have no idea what's going on.


I asked everyone what they thought about a piece of legislation from Missouri that promotes forcing Americans 18-30 somethings to buy AR-15s in Missouri.


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Postby The Chuck » Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:49 pm

Salus Maior

Here brother, this article. https://www.snopes.com/ap/2019/03/16/mi ... t-to-pass/

I got a good kick out of it lol.
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Postby Astoriya » Mon Mar 18, 2019 3:05 am

The Chuck wrote:Salus Maior

Here brother, this article. https://www.snopes.com/ap/2019/03/16/mi ... t-to-pass/

I got a good kick out of it lol.


That's just sad :rofl:

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Postby Sicaris » Mon Mar 18, 2019 5:59 am

Musselshell wrote:Don't the swiss issue rifles to citizens of that age range?


iirc Switzerland has required military service upon reaching 18, and when your service is over you can buy your rifle back from the government from a reduced price.
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Postby Pairian » Mon Mar 18, 2019 7:35 am

People will still kill people even if you take away their gun's. as has been shown

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/wor ... 544603002/

So go ahead take the guns and watch as people continue to kill people....

:rofl:
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Postby Libertas Omnium Maximus » Mon Mar 18, 2019 7:36 am

Pairian wrote:People will still kill people even if you take away there gun's. as has been shown

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/wor ... 544603002/

So go ahead take the guns and watch as people continue to kill people....

:rofl:


Yeah, people will, unfortunately, find a way.
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Postby Free Arabian Nation » Mon Mar 18, 2019 7:37 am

Pairian wrote:People will still kill people even if you take away there gun's. as has been shown

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/wor ... 544603002/

So go ahead take the guns and watch as people continue to kill people....

:rofl:

Bad people find ways to kill people.

In other news, water is wet.
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Postby Pairian » Mon Mar 18, 2019 7:39 am

Free Arabian Nation wrote:
Pairian wrote:People will still kill people even if you take away there gun's. as has been shown

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/wor ... 544603002/

So go ahead take the guns and watch as people continue to kill people....

:rofl:

Bad people find ways to kill people.

In other news, water is wet.


Water is not "wet" :hug:

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Postby Astoriya » Mon Mar 18, 2019 9:39 am

Pairian wrote:People will still kill people even if you take away their guns. as it has been shown

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/wor ... 544603002/

So go ahead take the guns and watch as people continue to kill people....

:rofl:


FTFY

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Postby Pairian » Mon Mar 18, 2019 11:05 am

Astoriya wrote:
Pairian wrote:People will still kill people even if you take away their guns. as it has been shown

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/wor ... 544603002/

So go ahead take the guns and watch as people continue to kill people....

:rofl:


FTFY


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Postby Grinning Dragon » Mon Mar 18, 2019 3:20 pm

Joe Scarborough on the AR 15
The AR-15 was developed as a military weapon to replace the M-14. Eugene Stoner designed it to be lighter and more lethal than the M-14.
:rofl:
Let the underlined sink in and wonder in amazement in how someone could be so fucking lazy to do a bit of a cursory research but instead decided to remove all doubt what a fucking retard he is and speaks of something he has zero knowledge in.

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Postby The Two Jerseys » Mon Mar 18, 2019 4:12 pm

Grinning Dragon wrote:Joe Scarborough on the AR 15
The AR-15 was developed as a military weapon to replace the M-14. Eugene Stoner designed it to be lighter and more lethal than the M-14.
:rofl:
Let the underlined sink in and wonder in amazement in how someone could be so fucking lazy to do a bit of a cursory research but instead decided to remove all doubt what a fucking retard he is and speaks of something he has zero knowledge in.

I bet Joe thinks that Teflon-coated bullets squeeze right between Kevlar threads.
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Postby Grinning Dragon » Mon Mar 18, 2019 4:44 pm

The Two Jerseys wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote:Joe Scarborough on the AR 15
:rofl:
Let the underlined sink in and wonder in amazement in how someone could be so fucking lazy to do a bit of a cursory research but instead decided to remove all doubt what a fucking retard he is and speaks of something he has zero knowledge in.

I bet Joe thinks that Teflon-coated bullets squeeze right between Kevlar threads.

Ah yes the teflon cop killer bullets. To this day I still run into people who hold this view, never a shortage of the intentionally misinformed by the media.

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Postby Saiwania » Mon Mar 18, 2019 4:45 pm

If New Zealand's gun laws are looser than Australia's, I'm surprised that no one has managed to take a boat and illegally smuggle in forbidden weaponry into Australia. Geographically, the distance doesn't seem too far between the two countries. More trouble that it's worth?

The main obstacle if illegally crossing, is evading each nation's coast guard or navys. The black market will usually try to supply anything that's illegal if its in enough demand, but at a sky high price to compensate for risks of acquisition and for obscene profit margin.
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Postby Licana » Mon Mar 18, 2019 4:48 pm

Saiwania wrote:If New Zealand's gun laws are looser than Australia's, I'm surprised that no one has managed to take a boat and illegally smuggle in forbidden weaponry into Australia. Geographically, the distance doesn't seem too far between the two countries. More trouble that it's worth?


It's over 2k km, so it's quite a trek.
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Postby Loben » Mon Mar 18, 2019 4:52 pm

Grinning Dragon wrote:Joe Scarborough on the AR 15
The AR-15 was developed as a military weapon to replace the M-14. Eugene Stoner designed it to be lighter and more lethal than the M-14.
:rofl:
Let the underlined sink in and wonder in amazement in how someone could be so fucking lazy to do a bit of a cursory research but instead decided to remove all doubt what a fucking retard he is and speaks of something he has zero knowledge in.


God damn fucking moron.

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Postby Grinning Dragon » Mon Mar 18, 2019 4:56 pm

Licana wrote:
Saiwania wrote:If New Zealand's gun laws are looser than Australia's, I'm surprised that no one has managed to take a boat and illegally smuggle in forbidden weaponry into Australia. Geographically, the distance doesn't seem too far between the two countries. More trouble that it's worth?


It's over 2k km, so it's quite a trek.

The age old "I lost my guns in a terrible boating accident" would certainly be true in this instance. :p
Holy hell what a load of bullshit one has to go through to get a firearm in NZ
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Postby Grinning Dragon » Mon Mar 18, 2019 4:59 pm

Loben wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote:Joe Scarborough on the AR 15
:rofl:
Let the underlined sink in and wonder in amazement in how someone could be so fucking lazy to do a bit of a cursory research but instead decided to remove all doubt what a fucking retard he is and speaks of something he has zero knowledge in.


God damn fucking moron.

Yep, and apparently the pap smear can't comprehend what he read, since his tweet referenced an Atlantic article on why the M-16 jammed.

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Postby Pairian » Mon Mar 18, 2019 5:21 pm

Loben wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote:Joe Scarborough on the AR 15
:rofl:
Let the underlined sink in and wonder in amazement in how someone could be so DUCK lazy to do a bit of a cursory research but instead decided to remove all doubt what a DUCK*** MEnard he is and speaks of something he has zero knowledge in.


*** GRAM Ducking MENARD .
thats not nice..... :ugeek:

The army uses FMJ ammunition ( Full metal jacket ) which is made of Cupronickel, Brass or copper alloy, With the logic being is that it takes three soldiers out of action if you hit one guy whom you can save taking up more resources then a dead body, Welcome to warfare. :twisted:

So really it depends on what type of ammunition you use in the AR-15 that would make it "more" lethal.

thats kind of the basic rundown of ammunition ( not really :roll: )

But just to point out a shotgun with a Buckshot or a slug will do WAAAAYYYY more damage then a rifle ( Discounting headshots :lol2: )
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Postby Saiwania » Mon Mar 18, 2019 5:30 pm

I'm more in favor of FMJ than hollow point ammo. Sure, FMJ is comparatively less lethal- but if you shoot someone with it, chances are they'll still die if wounded lethally. But if they survive, the wound profile is cleaner and that helps any medic or surgeon that might attend to them.
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Postby Telconi » Mon Mar 18, 2019 5:32 pm

Pairian wrote:
Loben wrote:
*** GRAM Ducking MENARD .
thats not nice..... :ugeek:

The army uses FMJ ammunition ( Full metal jacket ) which is made of Cupronickel, Brass or copper alloy, With the logic being is that it takes three soldiers out of action if you hit one guy whom you can save taking up more resources then a dead body, Welcome to warfare. :twisted:

So really it depends on what type of ammunition you use in the AR-15 that would make it "more" lethal.

thats kind of the basic rundown of ammunition ( not really :roll: )

But just to point out a shotgun with a Buckshot or a slug will do WAAAAYYYY more damage then a rifle ( Discounting headshots :lol2: )


Or, alternatively. They use FMJ because the Hague Convention prohibits other bullet typea?
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