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Gun Control n Stuff - Only 2 Options Pick Carefully

If my neighbors dog craps on my lawn I have a god-given right to respond with the use of force up to and including recreational nuclear warheads
562
51%
Guns are literally the embodiment of all evil ever created by mankind, and when the last gun is finally destroyed the entire world will be at peace
175
16%
I'm lame and choose not to use a poll with wild stereotypes about both sides because I'm lame
370
33%
 
Total votes : 1107

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Postby Grinning Dragon » Sun Feb 10, 2019 12:16 pm

Hurtful Thoughts wrote:
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Correct you are, my friend! I just didn't want to delve into it. I've always boiled the Second Amendment down into, "If the military can have it, the citizenry should be able to have it too". Obviously with some exceptions, like uh, fuckin' nuclear warheads and uuuuuhhhhh napalm bombs lol.

In an entirely hypothetical and just-for-explanation situation, the military could pretty easily outgun civilians, even the civilians who own fully automatic firearms, and the few who can actually own and operate the heavy duty vehicles with live guns on them. To avoid tyranny, I think it's only fair that the Second Amendment protects fully automatic firearms.

Napalm is actually legal, surprisingly enough.

Granted, finding a DOT-legal napalm-can is a tad troublesome.
-IIRC, most commercially refurbished flamethrowers are de-facto approved containers for gasoline/napalm and are about as unregulated as tannerite.

Similarily, a bag or tunnel full of oxy-acetolyne and a spark-igniter is legal, too.
-Noise and fire ordnances aside.


Naplam isn't hard to manufacture at home its nothing more than gasoline, petroleum oil, magnesium and sodium nitrate.
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Postby Hurtful Thoughts » Sun Feb 10, 2019 12:23 pm

Grinning Dragon wrote:
Hurtful Thoughts wrote:Napalm is actually legal, surprisingly enough.

Granted, finding a DOT-legal napalm-can is a tad troublesome.
-IIRC, most commercially refurbished flamethrowers are de-facto approved containers for gasoline/napalm and are about as unregulated as tannerite.

Similarily, a bag or tunnel full of oxy-acetolyne and a spark-igniter is legal, too.
-Noise and fire ordnances aside.


Naplam isn't hard to manufacture at home its nothing more than gasoline, petroleum oil, magnesium and sodium nitrate.

Or styrofoam dissolved in gasoline for improved napalm-B.

Ofc, that jellied gasoline is THICC and needs higher pressures to flow correctly. Otherwise it's like trying to squirt frozen-yogurt out of a super-soaker.
-Somewhere betwwen 45 and 90 PSI and a tube of twice the thickness to get a ahlfway-decent flow-rate.

Normal garden-hoses will neither take those sorts of pressures, nor resist being dissolved by the petrochemicals.

May as well disclose ahead of time that any enthusiastic backyard hobbyist probably doesn't have the resources to use Napalm-B safely.
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Postby Grinning Dragon » Sun Feb 10, 2019 12:29 pm

Hurtful Thoughts wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote:
Naplam isn't hard to manufacture at home its nothing more than gasoline, petroleum oil, magnesium and sodium nitrate.

Or styrofoam dissolved in gasoline for improved napalm-B.

Ofc, that jellied gasoline is THICC and needs higher pressures to flow correctly. Otherwise it's like trying to squirt frozen ice-cream out of a super-soaker.


*Good time childhood memories intensifies*
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Gun-Control is the belief that declawing the cat will protect it against other animals; also why are anti-gun people so violent?
Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery!
Socialism- the herpes of economic systems.
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Postby Gig em Aggies » Sun Feb 10, 2019 2:55 pm

Grinning Dragon wrote:
Hurtful Thoughts wrote:Or styrofoam dissolved in gasoline for improved napalm-B.

Ofc, that jellied gasoline is THICC and needs higher pressures to flow correctly. Otherwise it's like trying to squirt frozen ice-cream out of a super-soaker.


*Good time childhood memories intensifies*

whoa whoa whoa did we just turn the GCIII thread into the anarchist cookbook? :shock: I did try that too but lit in a brick pit I built near the woods so my parents wouldn't see but dammit they found out I burned something and nothing more.
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Postby Grinning Dragon » Sun Feb 10, 2019 3:00 pm

Gig em Aggies wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote:
*Good time childhood memories intensifies*

whoa whoa whoa did we just turn the GCIII thread into the anarchist cookbook? :shock: I did try that too but lit in a brick pit I built near the woods so my parents wouldn't see but dammit they found out I burned something and nothing more.


Nah, nothing like that, perhaps times were a bit more adventurous back in the days of yore and sometimes with adult help.
I prefer Dangerous Freedom over peaceful slavery! Sic Semper Tyrannis!
Gun-Control is the belief that declawing the cat will protect it against other animals; also why are anti-gun people so violent?
Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery!
Socialism- the herpes of economic systems.
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The made up term "toxic masculinity" is founded on nonsense psychologism

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Postby Gig em Aggies » Sun Feb 10, 2019 3:38 pm

Grinning Dragon wrote:
Gig em Aggies wrote:whoa whoa whoa did we just turn the GCIII thread into the anarchist cookbook? :shock: I did try that too but lit in a brick pit I built near the woods so my parents wouldn't see but dammit they found out I burned something and nothing more.


Nah, nothing like that, perhaps times were a bit more adventurous back in the days of yore and sometimes with adult help.

adventurous is shooting your neighbors garage door with a simple bb gun, or almost blowing up your relatives car or yourself with fireworks at there place in the countryside.
“One of the serious problems of planning against Aggie doctrine is that the Aggies do not read their manuals nor do they feel any obligations to follow their doctrine.”
“The reason that the Aggies does so well in wartime, is that war is chaos, and the Aggies practices chaos on a daily basis.”
“If we don’t know what we are doing, the enemy certainly can’t anticipate our future actions!”

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Postby Big Jim P » Sun Feb 10, 2019 10:44 pm

Grinning Dragon wrote:
Gig em Aggies wrote:whoa whoa whoa did we just turn the GCIII thread into the anarchist cookbook? :shock: I did try that too but lit in a brick pit I built near the woods so my parents wouldn't see but dammit they found out I burned something and nothing more.


Nah, nothing like that, perhaps times were a bit more adventurous back in the days of yore and sometimes with adult help.


We were a stronger, tougher breed back then. Luckier too. 8)

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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Mon Feb 11, 2019 8:22 am

Big Jim P wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote:
Nah, nothing like that, perhaps times were a bit more adventurous back in the days of yore and sometimes with adult help.


We were a stronger, tougher breed back then. Luckier too. 8)


What's this Airsoft bullshit?

Back in my day, we had spring operated BB guns, and the man with a Daisy Pump was king.

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Postby Pax Nerdvana » Mon Feb 11, 2019 11:01 am

Paddy O Fernature wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
We were a stronger, tougher breed back then. Luckier too. 8)


What's this Airsoft bullshit?

Back in my day, we had spring operated BB guns, and the man with a Daisy Pump was king.

I'm theh proud owner of a Daisy lever action. No CO2 is wanted or needed.
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Postby Free Arabian Nation » Mon Feb 11, 2019 11:03 am

Paddy O Fernature wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
We were a stronger, tougher breed back then. Luckier too. 8)


What's this Airsoft bullshit?

Back in my day, we had spring operated BB guns, and the man with a Daisy Pump was king.

Back in my day, we'd use rubber band guns that the local nerd made for 10 bucks a gun

Then everyone started using real guns and things got bad.
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Postby Gig em Aggies » Mon Feb 11, 2019 3:01 pm

Free Arabian Nation wrote:
Paddy O Fernature wrote:
What's this Airsoft bullshit?

Back in my day, we had spring operated BB guns, and the man with a Daisy Pump was king.

Back in my day, we'd use rubber band guns that the local nerd made for 10 bucks a gun

Then everyone started using real guns and things got bad.

if anything would toughen up a youngster a hit from a paintball gun while wearing only sweat pants, tennis shoes, and a shirt would do it I had a welt on my leg that was massive and I took it like a man that is crying to my mom and taking off my protective face mask oh what a wild man I was.
“One of the serious problems of planning against Aggie doctrine is that the Aggies do not read their manuals nor do they feel any obligations to follow their doctrine.”
“The reason that the Aggies does so well in wartime, is that war is chaos, and the Aggies practices chaos on a daily basis.”
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Postby Big Jim P » Tue Feb 12, 2019 5:53 am

Paddy O Fernature wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
We were a stronger, tougher breed back then. Luckier too. 8)


What's this Airsoft bullshit?

Back in my day, we had spring operated BB guns, and the man with a Daisy Pump was king.


I was the King, with my Daisy that held 650 or so bbs. All my buddies with their fancy single shot pellet guns hated me. :twisted:

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Postby Big Jim P » Tue Feb 12, 2019 5:54 am

Pax Nerdvana wrote:
Paddy O Fernature wrote:
What's this Airsoft bullshit?

Back in my day, we had spring operated BB guns, and the man with a Daisy Pump was king.

I'm theh proud owner of a Daisy lever action. No CO2 is wanted or needed.


I own one now. Roan bought if for me for xmas a few years back. :)

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Postby Pax Nerdvana » Tue Feb 12, 2019 9:13 am

Big Jim P wrote:
Pax Nerdvana wrote:I'm theh proud owner of a Daisy lever action. No CO2 is wanted or needed.


I own one now. Roan bought if for me for xmas a few years back. :)

Hey, I got mine for Christmas too.
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Postby Gun Manufacturers » Wed Feb 13, 2019 6:36 pm

I asked for a Daisy Red Ryder bb gun for Chrsitmas, but was told I'd shoot my eye out. :(
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Postby Grinning Dragon » Wed Feb 13, 2019 6:38 pm

Gun Manufacturers wrote:I asked for a Daisy Red Ryder bb gun for Chrsitmas, but was told I'd shoot my eye out. :(

I asked for one when I was young, and my dad told me to buy it myself, thank god for grandmas and grandpas who donated to the cause :D
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Postby Chernoslavia » Fri Feb 15, 2019 8:35 am

Paddy O Fernature wrote:Here we go again.

:roll:


Lol you know what? Bring it on, bitch (to Pelosi).
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Postby Gig em Aggies » Fri Feb 15, 2019 11:18 am

Chernoslavia wrote:
Paddy O Fernature wrote:Here we go again.

:roll:


Lol you know what? Bring it on, bitch (to Pelosi).


PATRIOTS ASSEMBLE...…..https://youtu.be/YoTThWeyR0Q
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“One of the serious problems of planning against Aggie doctrine is that the Aggies do not read their manuals nor do they feel any obligations to follow their doctrine.”
“The reason that the Aggies does so well in wartime, is that war is chaos, and the Aggies practices chaos on a daily basis.”
“If we don’t know what we are doing, the enemy certainly can’t anticipate our future actions!”

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Postby Kowani » Fri Feb 15, 2019 11:21 am

Chernoslavia wrote:
Paddy O Fernature wrote:Here we go again.

:roll:


Lol you know what? Bring it on, bitch (to Pelosi).

I mean, she has a point, it’s very bad precedent.
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Postby Telconi » Fri Feb 15, 2019 11:24 am

Kowani wrote:
Chernoslavia wrote:
Lol you know what? Bring it on, bitch (to Pelosi).

I mean, she has a point, it’s very bad precedent.


It isnt as if he's creating these powers.
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Postby Spirit of Hope » Fri Feb 15, 2019 11:28 am

Telconi wrote:
Kowani wrote:I mean, she has a point, it’s very bad precedent.


It isnt as if he's creating these powers.

While not creating them, he is obviously not using them as intended. Now you can blame congress for not fixing them, especially after the supreme court struck down parts of the original. Specifically the president has only twice before used funds not given over by congress in a national emergency, for the Gulf War and 9/11.

The worry that a future president could declare a national emergency to get what they want done, and congress won't fund, is very real.
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Postby Kowani » Fri Feb 15, 2019 11:30 am

Spirit of Hope wrote:
Telconi wrote:
It isnt as if he's creating these powers.

While not creating them, he is obviously not using them as intended. Now you can blame congress for not fixing them, especially after the supreme court struck down parts of the original. Specifically the president has only twice before used funds not given over by congress in a national emergency, for the Gulf War and 9/11.

The worry that a future president could declare a national emergency to get what they want done, and congress won't fund, is very real.

See, this guy gets it!
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Postby Telconi » Fri Feb 15, 2019 11:31 am

Spirit of Hope wrote:
Telconi wrote:
It isnt as if he's creating these powers.

While not creating them, he is obviously not using them as intended. Now you can blame congress for not fixing them, especially after the supreme court struck down parts of the original. Specifically the president has only twice before used funds not given over by congress in a national emergency, for the Gulf War and 9/11.

The worry that a future president could declare a national emergency to get what they want done, and congress won't fund, is very real.


But it's very real regardless of rather he does it or not.
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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Fri Feb 15, 2019 11:38 am

Gig em Aggies wrote:
Chernoslavia wrote:
Lol you know what? Bring it on, bitch (to Pelosi).


PATRIOTS ASSEMBLE...…..https://youtu.be/YoTThWeyR0Q


Love that movie. :lol:

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