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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:43 pm
by Revanchism
Grinning Dragon wrote:
Revanchism wrote:Oh great, another vague hype gun that doesn't actually fulfill any real need.

If by any chance at the federal level, a law were passed that declared semi-auto firearms verboten, the above innovation gets around that as it isn't a semi-auto firearm.

You presume they wouldn't write it in, or take some other measure. Just because there's a technicality or a loophole now won't be enough to save it from a truly anti-gun government.

PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:47 pm
by Revanchism
Revanchism wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote:If by any chance at the federal level, a law were passed that declared semi-auto firearms verboten, the above innovation gets around that as it isn't a semi-auto firearm.

You presume they wouldn't write it in, or take some other measure. Just because there's a technicality or a loophole now won't be enough to save it from a truly anti-gun government.

To add-on further, this is a marketing scheme first and foremost. Rest assured, like most gun manufacturers, these people do not care about your rights, only what they can sell you.
This gun wouldn't magically be safe from legislation solely by technicality, as it's coming into being before there's any hypothetical laws to lampoon.
And thus, what do you think will happen should such laws come into being? Do you think they'll ignore something that's effectively semi-auto just because it doesn't technically fall under the definition? Did that save bumpfire stocks?

PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:48 pm
by Washington Resistance Army
Revanchism wrote:
Revanchism wrote:You presume they wouldn't write it in, or take some other measure. Just because there's a technicality or a loophole now won't be enough to save it from a truly anti-gun government.

To add-on further, this is a marketing scheme first and foremost. Rest assured, like most gun manufacturers, these people do not care about your rights, only what they can sell you.
This gun wouldn't magically be safe from legislation solely by technicality, as it's coming into being before there's any hypothetical laws to lampoon.
And thus, what do you think will happen should such laws come into being? Do you think they'll ignore something that's effectively semi-auto just because it doesn't technically fall under the definition? Did that save bumpfire stocks?


It will save bump stocks, yes, because literally anyone who follows the 2A legal scene will tell you that EO is gonna die in court.

PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 1:01 pm
by Estanglia
Adad Civilization wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Look at that. But remember the slippery slope of gun control doesn't exist and if you think it does you're just a paranoid gun fucker *nods*

Tf even is a assault weapon besides a buzzword used by media to push their agenda?


Nothing. It's just a buzzword to make idiots who know jack shit about guns seem smart.

Grinning Dragon wrote:When in the course of human events, those who wish to infringe upon individual enumerated freedoms and establish control of its citizens through the promise of illusionary safety known as "gun control" there are those who seek to throw off the yokes of tyranny through infringements, it is meet with one voice, we will not surrender, we will not go quietly into the night, we will not stand idly by, we will create through innovation, you cannot stop the signal, the revolution of mans innovation will be televised.

Franklin Armory’s New Providence Carbine Fires One Round Per Pull, But Isn’t a Semi-Automatic

Video of Franklin Armory’s Providence Non-Semi-Automatic Carbine In Action


Interesting. That's one way to get past shitty laws.

PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 2:02 pm
by Hurtful Thoughts
Grinning Dragon wrote:When in the course of human events, those who wish to infringe upon individual enumerated freedoms and establish control of its citizens through the promise of illusionary safety known as "gun control" there are those who seek to throw off the yokes of tyranny through infringements, it is meet with one voice, we will not surrender, we will not go quietly into the night, we will not stand idly by, we will create through innovation, you cannot stop the signal, the revolution of mans innovation will be televised.

Franklin Armory’s New Providence Carbine Fires One Round Per Pull, But Isn’t a Semi-Automatic

Video of Franklin Armory’s Providence Non-Semi-Automatic Carbine In Action

Double action only 9mm pistol in an AR frame?

PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 2:49 pm
by Crockerland
Grinning Dragon wrote:When in the course of human events, those who wish to infringe upon individual enumerated freedoms and establish control of its citizens through the promise of illusionary safety known as "gun control" there are those who seek to throw off the yokes of tyranny through infringements, it is meet with one voice, we will not surrender, we will not go quietly into the night, we will not stand idly by, we will create through innovation, you cannot stop the signal, the revolution of mans innovation will be televised.

Franklin Armory’s New Providence Carbine Fires One Round Per Pull, But Isn’t a Semi-Automatic

Video of Franklin Armory’s Providence Non-Semi-Automatic Carbine In Action

"Fires One Round Per Pull, But Isn’t a Semi-Automatic"
That just sounds like a revolver with extra steps*.

*and extra cost, extra "no gunsmith in the country knows how to fix this except the people who made it," and no established market to fight back if politicians try to ban it.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 8:18 am
by Grinning Dragon
Crockerland wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote:When in the course of human events, those who wish to infringe upon individual enumerated freedoms and establish control of its citizens through the promise of illusionary safety known as "gun control" there are those who seek to throw off the yokes of tyranny through infringements, it is meet with one voice, we will not surrender, we will not go quietly into the night, we will not stand idly by, we will create through innovation, you cannot stop the signal, the revolution of mans innovation will be televised.

Franklin Armory’s New Providence Carbine Fires One Round Per Pull, But Isn’t a Semi-Automatic

Video of Franklin Armory’s Providence Non-Semi-Automatic Carbine In Action

"Fires One Round Per Pull, But Isn’t a Semi-Automatic"
That just sounds like a revolver with extra steps*.

*and extra cost, extra "no gunsmith in the country knows how to fix this except the people who made it," and no established market to fight back if politicians try to ban it.


I see what you are saying, but then again, couldn't the same be said of just about anything new that deviates from the norm with a different process? Couldn't the same be said of the AR platform when it was introduced back in the 50's?

PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 9:32 am
by Gun Manufacturers
Revanchism wrote:
Revanchism wrote:You presume they wouldn't write it in, or take some other measure. Just because there's a technicality or a loophole now won't be enough to save it from a truly anti-gun government.

To add-on further, this is a marketing scheme first and foremost. Rest assured, like most gun manufacturers, these people do not care about your rights, only what they can sell you.
This gun wouldn't magically be safe from legislation solely by technicality, as it's coming into being before there's any hypothetical laws to lampoon.
And thus, what do you think will happen should such laws come into being? Do you think they'll ignore something that's effectively semi-auto just because it doesn't technically fall under the definition? Did that save bumpfire stocks?


Sure, I do.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 11:22 am
by Len Hyet
Revanchism wrote:
Revanchism wrote:You presume they wouldn't write it in, or take some other measure. Just because there's a technicality or a loophole now won't be enough to save it from a truly anti-gun government.

To add-on further, this is a marketing scheme first and foremost. Rest assured, like most gun manufacturers, these people do not care about your rights, only what they can sell you.
This gun wouldn't magically be safe from legislation solely by technicality, as it's coming into being before there's any hypothetical laws to lampoon.
And thus, what do you think will happen should such laws come into being? Do you think they'll ignore something that's effectively semi-auto just because it doesn't technically fall under the definition? Did that save bumpfire stocks?

Which is why they care about our rights. If an AWB passes the multi-billion dollar industry that is gun manufacturing takes a massive hit. A lot of companies might just straight up fold, especially those that only manufacture things that would be banned. So they will fight tooth and nail because to do otherwise means cutting into their bottom line.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 5:46 pm
by Germanic Templars
Len Hyet wrote:
Revanchism wrote:To add-on further, this is a marketing scheme first and foremost. Rest assured, like most gun manufacturers, these people do not care about your rights, only what they can sell you.
This gun wouldn't magically be safe from legislation solely by technicality, as it's coming into being before there's any hypothetical laws to lampoon.
And thus, what do you think will happen should such laws come into being? Do you think they'll ignore something that's effectively semi-auto just because it doesn't technically fall under the definition? Did that save bumpfire stocks?

Which is why they care about our rights. If an AWB passes the multi-billion dollar industry that is gun manufacturing takes a massive hit. A lot of companies might just straight up fold, especially those that only manufacture things that would be banned. So they will fight tooth and nail because to do otherwise means cutting into their bottom line.

But wouldnt those companies that fold and fail out mean that jobs and revenue would be loss too?

PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 8:46 am
by Grinning Dragon

PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 4:09 pm
by Kernen


I giggled in anticipation.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 4:11 pm
by The Two Jerseys

GO ON JOHNNY, DO IT!

PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 4:20 pm
by Kernen
The Two Jerseys wrote:

GO ON JOHNNY, DO IT!

Release the Kraken!

PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 4:38 pm
by Paddy O Fernature


Speaking as someone who's currently living behind enemy lines, about...fucking..time. :clap:

PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 4:48 pm
by Northern Davincia
Paddy O Fernature wrote:


Speaking as someone who's currently living behind enemy lines, about...fucking..time. :clap:

I'm now fully committed to the idea of kritarchy.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 5:35 pm
by Telconi
Paddy O Fernature wrote:


Speaking as someone who's currently living behind enemy lines, about...fucking..time. :clap:


This would apply to California's too probably right? Since they're very similar.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 5:43 pm
by Northern Davincia
Telconi wrote:
Paddy O Fernature wrote:
Speaking as someone who's currently living behind enemy lines, about...fucking..time. :clap:


This would apply to California's too probably right? Since they're very similar.

We can hope.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 10:38 pm
by Germanic Templars


A step in the right direction for where we need to eventually get to, assuming it goes the right way.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 10:40 pm
by Arengin Union

PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 8:18 pm
by Hurtful Thoughts
Grinning Dragon wrote:
Crockerland wrote:"Fires One Round Per Pull, But Isn’t a Semi-Automatic"
That just sounds like a revolver with extra steps*.

*and extra cost, extra "no gunsmith in the country knows how to fix this except the people who made it," and no established market to fight back if politicians try to ban it.


I see what you are saying, but then again, couldn't the same be said of just about anything new that deviates from the norm with a different process? Couldn't the same be said of the AR platform when it was introduced back in the 50's?

We'd call it an FG-42.

A better example would be the M1921 Thompson in civvie hands even though it costs as much as a pair of newly built Ford Model Ts.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 10:01 pm
by Sovaal
Revanchism wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote:When in the course of human events, those who wish to infringe upon individual enumerated freedoms and establish control of its citizens through the promise of illusionary safety known as "gun control" there are those who seek to throw off the yokes of tyranny through infringements, it is meet with one voice, we will not surrender, we will not go quietly into the night, we will not stand idly by, we will create through innovation, you cannot stop the signal, the revolution of mans innovation will be televised.

Franklin Armory’s New Providence Carbine Fires One Round Per Pull, But Isn’t a Semi-Automatic

Video of Franklin Armory’s Providence Non-Semi-Automatic Carbine In Action

Oh great, another vague hype gun that doesn't actually fulfill any real need.

Becuase restrictions on smei auto fireamrs dont exust ANYWHERE in the world, no siree.

Still more useful than the reformation.

PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 12:21 pm
by Grinning Dragon
Federal Court Rules Firearms Prohibition Against an Individual for a Misdemeanor Conviction Under Vehicle Code is Unconstitutional

Federal Court Rules Firearms Prohibition Against an Individual for a Misdemeanor Conviction Under Vehicle Code is Unconstitutional
Posted on February 4, 2019 by Adam Kraut, Esq.
Today, Joshua Prince and myself secured another victory for Second Amendment jurisprudence in Miller v. Sessions, et al., 2:17-cv-02627 in an issue of first impression across the United States. Judge Eduardo Robreno of the Eastern District of Pennsylvania ruled in a 25 page memorandum that it was unconstitutional, as-applied to Mr. Miller, to prevent him from exercising his Second Amendment right as a result of a 1998 misdemeanor conviction under the vehicle code – specifically, the alteration of a PennDOT window tint exemption form.


As a result, the Court enjoined the Government from enforcing, directing the enforcement, or permitting the enforcement of the felon-in-possession ban of 18 U.S.C. § 922(g)(1) against Mr. Miller. While the order is only in relation to Mr. Miller, the Court’s holding is indicative of the willingness to continue to grant relief to certain individuals who may be barred from possessing firearms under federal law due to a non-violent misdemeanor conviction.

Individuals who find themselves prohibited due to a non-violent misdemeanor offense and wish to challenge the bar on their ability to possess firearms and ammunition can contact Firearms Industry Consulting Group today to discuss their rights and legal options.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2019 9:13 am
by The Empire of Pretantia

PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2019 12:07 pm
by Gig em Aggies

Hell yeah suck it freedom haters. but really I think the Democratic controlled California government will find some way to screw over the company like they do to everyone who doesn't fall in line with the un-American ways.