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Posted: **Tue Jan 15, 2019 4:17 pm**

Grinning Dragon wrote:In another episode of you can't stop the signal.
New Legal Armor Piercing Handgun Round Announced ~ VIDEO
A libertarian aerospace engineer named Austin Thomas Jones didn't like the fact that the government had access to the armored piercing handguns rounds, but the government prevented the general public from owning them. He viewed the law as tyrannical.

Jones has designed soft armor for combat sports. He developed micrometeoroid shielding for soft-bodied spacecraft such as modules for the International Space Station. Micrometeoroid moves at speeds that far exceeds that of bullets, and the strength of the material must be far superior to that of soft body armor.

The work of Defense Distributed on 3D printed firearms inspired Jones to take action to use science to defeat the armored piercing bullet ban. He read through the law and noticed that only certain metals were banned from use in bullets. He thought he could defeat draconian law by simply finding a material that wasn’t banned by the law and designing a superior projectile....

It is about fighting back and making gun control obsolete which is the same goal as Defense Distributed. In the same vein as releasing the 3D gun files online, Atlas Arms will make their designs open source to the general public. They will allow anyone with the will and the means to produce the rounds including home reloaders. Within the year after Atlas Arms carries out all safety testing, all data will be released to the world.

In before BATFE(&RLF) ignores the law and classifies it as an AP round anyway...

Posted: **Tue Jan 15, 2019 5:30 pm**

Gig em Aggies wrote:
Telconi wrote:
>Dagny Dagger

hilarious i just hope that they dont screw over this dude like they did with the last one.

As for the company name, to me it sounds like a super hero from a Marvel comic.

Oh, I'm sure some wankstain(s) are keeping an eye on this one and ready to swoop in like an over bearing authoritarian cunt.

Also going to add this that I came across.
GOA Files for Supreme Court Cert in Case Challenging the National Firearms Act
I would absolutely love if the unconstitutional nfa was struck down, but alas, I'm afraid it will be all for naught, as the supreme court will deny cert, though they should give it a hearing.

Posted: **Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:01 am**

Grinning Dragon wrote:
Gun Manufacturers wrote:
Hey, I see a compromise being offered by our side. Lets see if the antis are willing to go along with it.

Then lower the drinking age to 18 to make it even better.

May be of some interest to a few....
The U.S. Department of Justice just published the results of an interesting survey. The Bureau of Justice Statistics polled state and federal prisoners in 2016 asking how they acquired and used firearms in the commission of the crime(s) for which they were convicted.
Felons, Feinstein and Facts: How Criminals Get and Use Their Guns
Check out the full report

Where inmates acquire firearms
These stats are state and federal figures combined. Gun shows — yes, the dreaded “gun show loophole” — account for only 0.8% of purchases. And many/most/all of those may have included a background check. That’s a shockingly low figure. As you would probably guess, most inmates acquired their gun illegally.

Criminals don't obey the law? Wow. I'm shocked.

Posted: **Wed Jan 16, 2019 10:27 am**

The Two Jerseys wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote:In another episode of you can't stop the signal.
New Legal Armor Piercing Handgun Round Announced ~ VIDEO

In before BATFE(&RLF) ignores the law and classifies it as an AP round anyway...

After revisiting the law, the ATF has decided that while the metal in question isnt copper, it's copper.

Posted: **Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:43 pm**

Telconi wrote:
The Two Jerseys wrote:In before BATFE(&RLF) ignores the law and classifies it as an AP round anyway...

After revisiting the law, the ATF has decided that while the metal in question isnt copper, it's copper.

Da fuk?

Posted: **Wed Jan 16, 2019 2:43 pm**

Chernoslavia wrote:
Telconi wrote:
After revisiting the law, the ATF has decided that while the metal in question isnt copper, it's copper.

Da fuk?

I mean, they did this with the bump stocks.

Posted: **Wed Jan 16, 2019 2:44 pm**

Telconi wrote:
Chernoslavia wrote:
Da fuk?

I mean, they did this with the bump stocks.

All the more reason to strip them of their power to make such ruling. Not that they ever actually had it to begin with.

Posted: **Thu Jan 17, 2019 5:57 am**

We've got another gestapo red flag law proposal to illegally violate the fifth, second, and fourth amendments simultaneously, this time in my home state.

Special thanks to BASED and REDPILLED Libertarians for obstructing and opposing pro-gun Republicans at every level of government in our 2018 elections, allowing Democrats to win by splitting the right-wing vote, your political positioning was definitely more important than our basic Constitutional rights.

Posted: **Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:37 am**

Crockerland wrote:We've got another gestapo red flag law proposal to illegally violate the fifth, second, and fourth amendments simultaneously, this time in my home state.

Special thanks to BASED and REDPILLED Libertarians for obstructing and opposing pro-gun Republicans at every level of government in our 2018 elections, allowing Democrats to win by splitting the right-wing vote, your political positioning was definitely more important than our basic Constitutional rights.

Red flag laws are unconstitutional and should be struck down on that basis. Nothing like subverting another constitutional right all in the name of illusionary safety and more power to an ever growing hungry govt.

Posted: **Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:40 am**

Crockerland wrote:We've got another gestapo red flag law proposal to illegally violate the fifth, second, and fourth amendments simultaneously, this time in my home state.

Special thanks to BASED and REDPILLED Libertarians for obstructing and opposing pro-gun Republicans at every level of government in our 2018 elections, allowing Democrats to win by splitting the right-wing vote, your political positioning was definitely more important than our basic Constitutional rights.

Trumps AG nominee supports red flag laws, we were boned no matter what on that.

Posted: **Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:43 am**

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Crockerland wrote:We've got another gestapo red flag law proposal to illegally violate the fifth, second, and fourth amendments simultaneously, this time in my home state.

Special thanks to BASED and REDPILLED Libertarians for obstructing and opposing pro-gun Republicans at every level of government in our 2018 elections, allowing Democrats to win by splitting the right-wing vote, your political positioning was definitely more important than our basic Constitutional rights.

Trumps AG nominee supports red flag laws, we were boned no matter what on that.

Yeah, isn't all that friendly to the 2nd Amendment, just another POS who espouses the fudd line of "I support the 2nd, 4th, 5th Amendment, but....."

Posted: **Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:48 am**

Grinning Dragon wrote:
Crockerland wrote:We've got another gestapo red flag law proposal to illegally violate the fifth, second, and fourth amendments simultaneously, this time in my home state.

Special thanks to BASED and REDPILLED Libertarians for obstructing and opposing pro-gun Republicans at every level of government in our 2018 elections, allowing Democrats to win by splitting the right-wing vote, your political positioning was definitely more important than our basic Constitutional rights.

Red flag laws are unconstitutional and should be struck down on that basis. Nothing like subverting another constitutional right all in the name of illusionary safety and more power to an ever growing hungry govt.

Don't these people realize that all you have to do is keep your guns under lock and key?

Posted: **Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:59 am**

Pax Nerdvana wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote:Red flag laws are unconstitutional and should be struck down on that basis. Nothing like subverting another constitutional right all in the name of illusionary safety and more power to an ever growing hungry govt.

Don't these people realize that all you have to do is keep your guns under lock and key?

Those people want to make sure you don't have the ability to keep your firearms under lock and key, those people want the govt to come in and take control and continue towards the eventuality of making an enumerated right into a privilege that will only be able to be afforded by those who have the funds, means, and connections to ensure their ability to keep and bear arms while the common man is stripped of any opportunity to keep and bear arms. I sure do hope jurist Thomas gets his wish in taking on a plethora of 2nd Amendment cases and strike them down and tell those who wish to treat the 2nd Amendment as a 2nd class right to "FUCK OFF"

Posted: **Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:02 am**

Grinning Dragon wrote:
Pax Nerdvana wrote:Don't these people realize that all you have to do is keep your guns under lock and key?

Those people want to make sure you don't have the ability to keep your firearms under lock and key, those people want the govt to come in and take control and continue towards the eventuality of making an enumerated right into a privilege that will only be able to be afforded by those who have the funds, means, and connections to ensure their ability to keep and bear arms while the common man is stripped of any opportunity to keep and bear arms. I sure do hope jurist Thomas gets his wish in taking on a plethora of 2nd Amendment cases and strike them down and tell those who wish to treat the 2nd Amendment has a 2nd class right to "FUCK OFF"

Let's hope he can do it. We need to fix people's ignorance about guns.

Posted: **Thu Jan 17, 2019 6:46 pm**

I did notice in the print that they call handguns, rifles, and shotguns firearms yet sub machine guns and machine guns aren't on there so those to must be fine to own.

Posted: **Fri Jan 18, 2019 6:53 am**

Look at that. But remember the slippery slope of gun control doesn't exist and if you think it does you're just a paranoid gun fucker *nods*

Posted: **Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:37 am**

Washington Resistance Army wrote:Look at that. But remember the slippery slope of gun control doesn't exist and if you think it does you're just a paranoid gun fucker *nods*

Just goes to prove it isn't about safety, but about control and bigotry. I mean it isn't as if the federal one that expired was shown to have zero impact, one would think that at the state level they could review the data and facts that these types of laws are worthless, let alone unconstitutional.

Then again, gun control is never about safety and only about control. Gun control gets people killed.

Posted: **Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:51 am**

Washington Resistance Army wrote:Look at that. But remember the slippery slope of gun control doesn't exist and if you think it does you're just a paranoid gun fucker *nods*

Tf even is a assault weapon besides a buzzword used by media to push their agenda?

Posted: **Fri Jan 18, 2019 8:30 am**

Adad Civilization wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Look at that. But remember the slippery slope of gun control doesn't exist and if you think it does you're just a paranoid gun fucker *nods*

Tf even is a assault weapon besides a buzzword used by media to push their agenda?

That's all it is, a made up "buzzword" coined in the 1980's that could be used to define a plethora of firearms based on cosmetic features. So all in all, there is no such classification "assault weapon" in regards to firearms.

Posted: **Fri Jan 18, 2019 8:53 am**

When in the course of human events, those who wish to infringe upon individual enumerated freedoms and establish control of its citizens through the promise of illusionary safety known as "gun control" there are those who seek to throw off the yokes of tyranny through infringements, it is meet with one voice, we will not surrender, we will not go quietly into the night, we will not stand idly by, we will create through innovation, you cannot stop the signal, the revolution of mans innovation will be televised.

Franklin Armory’s New Providence Carbine Fires One Round Per Pull, But Isn’t a Semi-Automatic

Video of Franklin Armory’s Providence Non-Semi-Automatic Carbine In Action

Posted: **Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:21 pm**

Grinning Dragon wrote:When in the course of human events, those who wish to infringe upon individual enumerated freedoms and establish control of its citizens through the promise of illusionary safety known as "gun control" there are those who seek to throw off the yokes of tyranny through infringements, it is meet with one voice, we will not surrender, we will not go quietly into the night, we will not stand idly by, we will create through innovation, you cannot stop the signal, the revolution of mans innovation will be televised.

Franklin Armory’s New Providence Carbine Fires One Round Per Pull, But Isn’t a Semi-Automatic

Video of Franklin Armory’s Providence Non-Semi-Automatic Carbine In Action

Oh great, another vague hype gun that doesn't actually fulfill any real need.

Posted: **Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:22 pm**

Revanchism wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote:When in the course of human events, those who wish to infringe upon individual enumerated freedoms and establish control of its citizens through the promise of illusionary safety known as "gun control" there are those who seek to throw off the yokes of tyranny through infringements, it is meet with one voice, we will not surrender, we will not go quietly into the night, we will not stand idly by, we will create through innovation, you cannot stop the signal, the revolution of mans innovation will be televised.

Franklin Armory’s New Providence Carbine Fires One Round Per Pull, But Isn’t a Semi-Automatic

Video of Franklin Armory’s Providence Non-Semi-Automatic Carbine In Action

Oh great, another vague hype gun that doesn't actually fulfill any real need.

It fulfills plenty of need though.

Posted: **Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:27 pm**

Grinning Dragon wrote:When in the course of human events, those who wish to infringe upon individual enumerated freedoms and establish control of its citizens through the promise of illusionary safety known as "gun control" there are those who seek to throw off the yokes of tyranny through infringements, it is meet with one voice, we will not surrender, we will not go quietly into the night, we will not stand idly by, we will create through innovation, you cannot stop the signal, the revolution of mans innovation will be televised.

Franklin Armory’s New Providence Carbine Fires One Round Per Pull, But Isn’t a Semi-Automatic

Video of Franklin Armory’s Providence Non-Semi-Automatic Carbine In Action

Politics aside, I think that's a pretty sweet looking gun...

But that's just me, lol

Posted: **Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:27 pm**

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Revanchism wrote:Oh great, another vague hype gun that doesn't actually fulfill any real need.

It fulfills plenty of need though.

In deed.

Posted: **Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:29 pm**

Revanchism wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote:When in the course of human events, those who wish to infringe upon individual enumerated freedoms and establish control of its citizens through the promise of illusionary safety known as "gun control" there are those who seek to throw off the yokes of tyranny through infringements, it is meet with one voice, we will not surrender, we will not go quietly into the night, we will not stand idly by, we will create through innovation, you cannot stop the signal, the revolution of mans innovation will be televised.

Franklin Armory’s New Providence Carbine Fires One Round Per Pull, But Isn’t a Semi-Automatic

Video of Franklin Armory’s Providence Non-Semi-Automatic Carbine In Action

Oh great, another vague hype gun that doesn't actually fulfill any real need.

If by any chance at the federal level, a law were passed that declared semi-auto firearms verboten, the above innovation gets around that as it isn't a semi-auto firearm.

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