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Northern Davincia wrote:

Big Jim P wrote:
I started shooting around five or so.

I started around 8.

Hammer Britannia wrote:

Northern Davincia wrote:I started around 8.

The fact that neither of you started shooting while in the womb brings shame to gun owners everywhere

Gun Manufacturers wrote:

Northern Davincia wrote:I started around 8.

I started around age 33.

Big Jim P wrote:

Kowani wrote:How old are these children? I wouldn’t trust 5 year old me with a big stick, much less a firearm.

I started shooting around five or so.

Telconi wrote:

Big Jim P wrote:
I started shooting around five or so.

Same. I also think trust is more specific to the individual, there was nothing wrong with five year old me operating a firearm, and yet there are grown ass adults I wouldn't trust with one.

Fartsniffage wrote:

Telconi wrote:
Same. I also think trust is more specific to the individual, there was nothing wrong with five year old me operating a firearm, and yet there are grown ass adults I wouldn't trust with one.

I started at age 12. At age 15 I had a negligent discharge while on a range and under command. I was distracted thinking about exams and I fired an aimed round before the order to fire was given.

People fuck up. Children fuck up far more frequently than adults. Their brain doesn't fully link action and consequence. It's why we don't tend to leave children alone without adult supervision.

Telconi wrote:

Fartsniffage wrote:
I started at age 12. At age 15 I had a negligent discharge while on a range and under command. I was distracted thinking about exams and I fired an aimed round before the order to fire was given.

People fuck up. Children fuck up far more frequently than adults. Their brain doesn't fully link action and consequence. It's why we don't tend to leave children alone without adult supervision.

Okay? I am not you, neither is my child, or any other young shooter I'll be supervising.

People fuck up. Children fuck up far more frequently than adults. Their brain doesn't fully link action and consequence. It's why we don't tend to leave children alone without adult supervision.

Fartsniffage wrote:

Telconi wrote:
Okay? I am not you, neither is my child, or any other young shooter I'll be supervising.

People fuck up. Children fuck up far more frequently than adults. Their brain doesn't fully link action and consequence. It's why we don't tend to leave children alone without adult supervision.

Okay?

Fartsniffage wrote:

Telconi wrote:
Same. I also think trust is more specific to the individual, there was nothing wrong with five year old me operating a firearm, and yet there are grown ass adults I wouldn't trust with one.

I started at age 12. At age 15 I had a negligent discharge while on a range and under command. I was distracted thinking about exams and I fired an aimed round before the order to fire was given.

People fuck up. Children fuck up far more frequently than adults. Their brain doesn't fully link action and consequence. It's why we don't tend to leave children alone without adult supervision.

Telconi wrote:

Fartsniffage wrote:

Okay?

Fartsniffage wrote:

Telconi wrote:

Given that you accept that children don't process information in the same way adults do. Should children be able to purchase firearms?

The Two Jerseys wrote:

Fartsniffage wrote:
I started at age 12. At age 15 I had a negligent discharge while on a range and under command. I was distracted thinking about exams and I fired an aimed round before the order to fire was given.

People fuck up. Children fuck up far more frequently than adults. Their brain doesn't fully link action and consequence. It's why we don't tend to leave children alone without adult supervision.

And judging by that fuckwad who got banned from a gun range in Texas because he thought it would be hilarious to take a selfie of him pointing a handgun at his friend's head, the adult brain doesn't fully link action and consequence, and it's a good thing that they had an instructor supervising them to stop him before something bad happened.

Fartsniffage wrote:

The Two Jerseys wrote:And judging by that fuckwad who got banned from a gun range in Texas because he thought it would be hilarious to take a selfie of him pointing a handgun at his friend's head, the adult brain doesn't fully link action and consequence, and it's a good thing that they had an instructor supervising them to stop him before something bad happened.

Have you ever served in the military?

Fartsniffage wrote:

The Two Jerseys wrote:And judging by that fuckwad who got banned from a gun range in Texas because he thought it would be hilarious to take a selfie of him pointing a handgun at his friend's head, the adult brain doesn't fully link action and consequence, and it's a good thing that they had an instructor supervising them to stop him before something bad happened.

Have you ever served in the military?

Fartsniffage wrote:

The Two Jerseys wrote:And judging by that fuckwad who got banned from a gun range in Texas because he thought it would be hilarious to take a selfie of him pointing a handgun at his friend's head, the adult brain doesn't fully link action and consequence, and it's a good thing that they had an instructor supervising them to stop him before something bad happened.

Have you ever served in the military?

Telconi wrote:

Fartsniffage wrote:
Have you ever served in the military?

I don't see the relevance here...

Fartsniffage wrote:

Telconi wrote:
I don't see the relevance here...

During training one constantly points rifles at other people. Section attack drills, things like that. And your rifle is usually not unloaded, blanks make the situation much more realistic.

The adults in the video knew the pistol was unloaded. It was very poor gun control but suggestion that no one should ever point a gun at another person is just silly.

Fartsniffage wrote:

Telconi wrote:
I don't see the relevance here...

During training one constantly points rifles at other people. Section attack drills, things like that. And your rifle is usually not unloaded, blanks make the situation much more realistic.

The adults in the video knew the pistol was unloaded. It was very poor gun control but suggestion that no one should ever point a gun at another person is just silly.

Telconi wrote:

Fartsniffage wrote:
During training one constantly points rifles at other people. Section attack drills, things like that. And your rifle is usually not unloaded, blanks make the situation much more realistic.

The adults in the video knew the pistol was unloaded. It was very poor gun control but suggestion that no one should ever point a gun at another person is just silly.

And it would be a relevant objection when someone made such a suggestion.

Fartsniffage wrote:

Telconi wrote:
And it would be a relevant objection when someone made such a suggestion.

Okay?

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:

Fartsniffage wrote:
During training one constantly points rifles at other people. Section attack drills, things like that. And your rifle is usually not unloaded, blanks make the situation much more realistic.

The adults in the video knew the pistol was unloaded. It was very poor gun control but suggestion that no one should ever point a gun at another person is just silly.

I'm confused, was the above situation a military exercise and not people being fucking idiots?

Telconi wrote:

Fartsniffage wrote:
Okay?

So perhaps counter actual points people made instead of beating up straw men?

Fartsniffage wrote:

Telconi wrote:
So perhaps counter actual points people made instead of beating up straw men?

I was actually trying to move the conversation a little. Adults do dumb thinks with firearms. Adults do the same things with firearms and it's considered okay. In the video being discussed the pistol was unloaded and the magazine was being held in the hand of the person having the pistol put to their head. It might have looked stupid but the two guys knew what they were doing.

But I notice you've still not answered the question. Are you okay with children buying firearms after you accepted that they have issues understanding cause and effect?

Fartsniffage wrote:

Telconi wrote:
So perhaps counter actual points people made instead of beating up straw men?

I was actually trying to move the conversation a little. Adults do dumb thinks with firearms. Adults do the same things with firearms and it's considered okay. In the video being discussed the pistol was unloaded and the magazine was being held in the hand of the person having the pistol put to their head. It might have looked stupid but the two guys knew what they were doing.

But I notice you've still not answered the question. Are you okay with children buying firearms after you accepted that they have issues understanding cause and effect?

Telconi wrote:

Fartsniffage wrote:
I was actually trying to move the conversation a little. Adults do dumb thinks with firearms. Adults do the same things with firearms and it's considered okay. In the video being discussed the pistol was unloaded and the magazine was being held in the hand of the person having the pistol put to their head. It might have looked stupid but the two guys knew what they were doing.

But I notice you've still not answered the question. Are you okay with children buying firearms after you accepted that they have issues understanding cause and effect?

Knowingly committing a stupid act doesn't make it not stupid.

Define 'children'