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If my neighbors dog craps on my lawn I have a god-given right to respond with the use of force up to and including recreational nuclear warheads
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Guns are literally the embodiment of all evil ever created by mankind, and when the last gun is finally destroyed the entire world will be at peace
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Postby Grinning Dragon » Sat Sep 22, 2018 6:19 am

Greater Cesnica wrote:What is NSG's opinion on the availability of air rifles such as the Air Force Texan SS?

Don't get me wrong, I love this thing. But should there be a registration requirement to possess it due to the high FPS and the addition of a silencer, on an air rifle? Like, in Canada you need to register the non-silenced version of this, and it's illegal to possess the silenced version. I personally call BS on the strict laws, but it's Canada.


Nope not here in the US, one can also purchase full auto BB-guns.
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Sat Sep 22, 2018 6:43 am

Greater Cesnica wrote:What is NSG's opinion on the availability of air rifles such as the Air Force Texan SS?

Don't get me wrong, I love this thing. But should there be a registration requirement to possess it due to the high FPS and the addition of a silencer, on an air rifle? Like, in Canada you need to register the non-silenced version of this, and it's illegal to possess the silenced version. I personally call BS on the strict laws, but it's Canada.

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Postby Pax Nerdvana » Sat Sep 22, 2018 6:55 am

Grinning Dragon wrote:
Greater Cesnica wrote:What is NSG's opinion on the availability of air rifles such as the Air Force Texan SS?

Don't get me wrong, I love this thing. But should there be a registration requirement to possess it due to the high FPS and the addition of a silencer, on an air rifle? Like, in Canada you need to register the non-silenced version of this, and it's illegal to possess the silenced version. I personally call BS on the strict laws, but it's Canada.


Nope not here in the US, one can also purchase full auto BB-guns.

Yeah, I think I've seen 'em at Walmart.
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Postby Grinning Dragon » Sat Sep 22, 2018 6:56 am

Pax Nerdvana wrote:
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Nope not here in the US, one can also purchase full auto BB-guns.

Yeah, I think I've seen 'em at Walmart.

Amazon has them as well.
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Postby Pax Nerdvana » Sat Sep 22, 2018 6:59 am

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Pax Nerdvana wrote:Yeah, I think I've seen 'em at Walmart.

Amazon has them as well.

I didn't know that.
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Postby Grinning Dragon » Sat Sep 22, 2018 7:01 am

Pax Nerdvana wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote:Amazon has them as well.

I didn't know that.

Do a search for full auto bb guns.
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Postby Pax Nerdvana » Sat Sep 22, 2018 7:04 am

Grinning Dragon wrote:
Pax Nerdvana wrote:I didn't know that.

Do a search for full auto bb guns.

Ah. I wonder what happened to Walmart not selling semi autos? They carry semi auto BB guns, but not real semi autos. Hmmm...
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Postby Sovaal » Sat Sep 22, 2018 9:24 am

Greater Cesnica wrote:What is NSG's opinion on the availability of air rifles such as the Air Force Texan SS?

Don't get me wrong, I love this thing. But should there be a registration requirement to possess it due to the high FPS and the addition of a silencer, on an air rifle? Like, in Canada you need to register the non-silenced version of this, and it's illegal to possess the silenced version. I personally call BS on the strict laws, but it's Canada.

No. Frankly you shouldn't need to register silencers period.
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Postby Sovaal » Sat Sep 22, 2018 9:25 am

Pax Nerdvana wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote:Do a search for full auto bb guns.

Ah. I wonder what happened to Walmart not selling semi autos? They carry semi auto BB guns, but not real semi autos. Hmmm...

Nah, all the Walmarts near me have at least one 10/22, and usually a Mini 14 to boot. So much for caring for the childuns I guess.
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Postby Telconi » Sat Sep 22, 2018 9:28 am

Sovaal wrote:
Pax Nerdvana wrote:Ah. I wonder what happened to Walmart not selling semi autos? They carry semi auto BB guns, but not real semi autos. Hmmm...

Nah, all the Walmarts near me have at least one 10/22, and usually a Mini 14 to boot. So much for caring for the childuns I guess.


My Wal-Mart hasn't sold firearms since I was a little kid. California sux...
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Postby Sovaal » Sat Sep 22, 2018 9:28 am

Telconi wrote:
Sovaal wrote:Nah, all the Walmarts near me have at least one 10/22, and usually a Mini 14 to boot. So much for caring for the childuns I guess.


My Wal-Mart hasn't sold firearms since I was a little kid. California sux...

They still suck where I live, it's just that they have some fudd guns.
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Sat Sep 22, 2018 9:38 am

Sovaal wrote:
Pax Nerdvana wrote:Ah. I wonder what happened to Walmart not selling semi autos? They carry semi auto BB guns, but not real semi autos. Hmmm...

Nah, all the Walmarts near me have at least one 10/22, and usually a Mini 14 to boot. So much for caring for the childuns I guess.

Do they have wood furniture?
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Postby Greater Cesnica » Sat Sep 22, 2018 9:45 am

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Sovaal wrote:Nah, all the Walmarts near me have at least one 10/22, and usually a Mini 14 to boot. So much for caring for the childuns I guess.

Do they have wood furniture?

Not in Canada.
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Postby Chernoslavia » Sat Sep 22, 2018 11:29 am

Sovaal wrote:
Telconi wrote:
My Wal-Mart hasn't sold firearms since I was a little kid. California sux...

They still suck where I live, it's just that they have some fudd guns.


I've seen a few M&P15 22s in a few southern states. But as far as I can tell, no Walmarts here in Fla. sell guns.
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Postby Sovaal » Sat Sep 22, 2018 12:50 pm

Chernoslavia wrote:
Sovaal wrote:They still suck where I live, it's just that they have some fudd guns.


I've seen a few M&P15 22s in a few southern states. But as far as I can tell, no Walmarts here in Fla. sell guns.

At this point Florida isn't southern tbh.
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Postby Crockerland » Sat Sep 22, 2018 12:54 pm

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I've seen a few M&P15 22s in a few southern states. But as far as I can tell, no Walmarts here in Fla. sell guns.

At this point Florida isn't southern tbh.

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Sovaal wrote:At this point Florida isn't southern tbh.

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I say Florida deserves a region all it's own.
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Ah, Florida.

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Greater Cesnica wrote:What is NSG's opinion on the availability of air rifles such as the Air Force Texan SS?

Don't get me wrong, I love this thing. But should there be a registration requirement to possess it due to the high FPS and the addition of a silencer, on an air rifle? Like, in Canada you need to register the non-silenced version of this, and it's illegal to possess the silenced version. I personally call BS on the strict laws, but it's Canada.


No fire = not a firearm.
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Gun Manufacturers wrote:
Greater Cesnica wrote:What is NSG's opinion on the availability of air rifles such as the Air Force Texan SS?

Don't get me wrong, I love this thing. But should there be a registration requirement to possess it due to the high FPS and the addition of a silencer, on an air rifle? Like, in Canada you need to register the non-silenced version of this, and it's illegal to possess the silenced version. I personally call BS on the strict laws, but it's Canada.


No fire = not a firearm.

Well by that definition a flamethrower would qualify as a firearm.
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Postby Big Jim P » Sat Sep 22, 2018 11:47 pm

Greater Cesnica wrote:What is NSG's opinion on the availability of air rifles such as the Air Force Texan SS?

Don't get me wrong, I love this thing. But should there be a registration requirement to possess it due to the high FPS and the addition of a silencer, on an air rifle? Like, in Canada you need to register the non-silenced version of this, and it's illegal to possess the silenced version. I personally call BS on the strict laws, but it's Canada.


Why, when there is no registration requirement to own real firearms in the U.S.? At least not in the more reasonable parts of the country.
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Postby Greater Cesnica » Sun Sep 23, 2018 6:04 am

Big Jim P wrote:
Greater Cesnica wrote:What is NSG's opinion on the availability of air rifles such as the Air Force Texan SS?

Don't get me wrong, I love this thing. But should there be a registration requirement to possess it due to the high FPS and the addition of a silencer, on an air rifle? Like, in Canada you need to register the non-silenced version of this, and it's illegal to possess the silenced version. I personally call BS on the strict laws, but it's Canada.


Why, when there is no registration requirement to own real firearms in the U.S.? At least not in the more reasonable parts of the country.

*shudders at the mention of New York*

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Greater Cesnica wrote:What is NSG's opinion on the availability of air rifles such as the Air Force Texan SS?

Don't get me wrong, I love this thing. But should there be a registration requirement to possess it due to the high FPS and the addition of a silencer, on an air rifle? Like, in Canada you need to register the non-silenced version of this, and it's illegal to possess the silenced version. I personally call BS on the strict laws, but it's Canada.


No fire = not a firearm.

Canada says otherwise, because Canada is special. And since the thing qualifies as a firearm in Canada, the silenced version would be illegal, because silencers are illegal on firearms in Canada.
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Sun Sep 23, 2018 7:34 am

Greater Cesnica wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
Why, when there is no registration requirement to own real firearms in the U.S.? At least not in the more reasonable parts of the country.

*shudders at the mention of New York*

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No fire = not a firearm.

Canada says otherwise, because Canada is special. And since the thing qualifies as a firearm in Canada, the silenced version would be illegal, because silencers are illegal on firearms in Canada.

>Silenced firearms are illegal
>Silenced firearm is still as loud as a chainsaw

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Postby Big Jim P » Sun Sep 23, 2018 10:12 pm

Greater Cesnica wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
Why, when there is no registration requirement to own real firearms in the U.S.? At least not in the more reasonable parts of the country.

*shudders at the mention of New York*

Gun Manufacturers wrote:
No fire = not a firearm.

Canada says otherwise, because Canada is special. And since the thing qualifies as a firearm in Canada, the silenced version would be illegal, because silencers are illegal on firearms in Canada.


Thankfully NY is just a bad memory for me.
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Postby Northern Davincia » Sun Sep 23, 2018 10:15 pm

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Greater Cesnica wrote:*shudders at the mention of New York*


Canada says otherwise, because Canada is special. And since the thing qualifies as a firearm in Canada, the silenced version would be illegal, because silencers are illegal on firearms in Canada.


Thankfully NY is just a bad memory for me.

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