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PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 10:22 am
by The Two Jerseys
Wysten wrote:
Spirit of Hope wrote:They aren't air tight, they are water tight to a degree but generally would require additional work to be carried out to be able to ford rivers (fording kit including snorkel). While a Molotov cocktail would not be very efficient at completely knocking out a modern tank, because they are designed with that eventuality in mind, it can still have some effect. As already mentioned radios, machine gun mountings, ammo, and personnel equipment are all commonly attached or stored on the outside. This is not to mention that tank commanders like to keep their heads out because it gives them better fields of vision than staying inside. The fire and/or smoke in the engine to mobility kill a tank is rather hard and uncommon, but similar things have happened to modern tanks. Enough fire can also block the vision ports of a tank, making it harder to maneuver and fire small arms attacks definitely tends to drive away supporting infantry which makes the tanks job a lot harder.

TL;DR: Molotov Cocktails are inefficient and unlikely to get any form of kill, but can slow and degrade a tanks capabilities.

Or we could always go that one route that Japanese Commander did and just straight up take a Katana and take out the crew that way./s

But that wouldn't work on a modern MBT, because MODERN TANK INVINCIBLE LIKE BORIS!

PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 10:36 am
by The Two Jerseys
The South Falls wrote:I think people should be able to own muskets, at any time they want. Assault rifles should be banned, but since muskets are single shot, then people can carry those at any capacity and time they want. Same with Flintlock Pistols.

I think voting rights should be limited to white male landowners, and negroes should be property.

Because something something something Founding Fathers, blah blah blah.

PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 10:38 am
by Pandect
Can't we all carry huge Final Fantasy style swords instead?

PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 10:51 am
by The South Falls
Len Hyet wrote:
The South Falls wrote:I think people should be able to own muskets, at any time they want. Assault rifles should be banned, but since muskets are single shot, then people can carry those at any capacity and time they want. Same with Flintlock Pistols.

Let's compromise. You can own as many muskets as you want, and the rest of us can own assault rifles. Deal?

Alright. Except, your Assault RIfles don't have barrels, and my muskets can auto-fire.
The Two Jerseys wrote:
The South Falls wrote:I think people should be able to own muskets, at any time they want. Assault rifles should be banned, but since muskets are single shot, then people can carry those at any capacity and time they want. Same with Flintlock Pistols.

I think voting rights should be limited to white male landowners, and negroes should be property.

Because something something something Founding Fathers, blah blah blah.

That's the excuse for assault rifles. That "Well-regulated militia" bit of the constitution.
Pandect wrote:Can't we all carry huge Final Fantasy style swords instead?

No, because those aren't American enough.

PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 11:07 am
by Washington Resistance Army
The South Falls wrote:That's the excuse for assault rifles. That "Well-regulated militia" bit of the constitution.


What do you think that means, exactly?

PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 11:09 am
by The South Falls
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
The South Falls wrote:That's the excuse for assault rifles. That "Well-regulated militia" bit of the constitution.


What do you think that means, exactly?

Well, since we should have a 'well-regulated militia', and ARs are originally army weapons, then we should have ARs to form a 1783-style militia.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 11:10 am
by Washington Resistance Army
The South Falls wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
What do you think that means, exactly?

Well, since we should have a 'well-regulated militia', and ARs are originally army weapons, then we should have ARs to form a 1783-style militia.

This message has been supported and paid for by the National Rifle Association


What do you think "well regulated militia" means?

PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 11:32 am
by Hammer Britannia
The South Falls wrote:I think people should be able to own muskets, at any time they want. Assault rifles should be banned, but since muskets are single shot, then people can carry those at any capacity and time they want. Same with Flintlock Pistols.

De furst amendment only applies to Muskets lmao xd

PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 11:52 am
by Len Hyet
The South Falls wrote:
Len Hyet wrote:Let's compromise. You can own as many muskets as you want, and the rest of us can own assault rifles. Deal?

Alright. Except, your Assault RIfles don't have barrels, and my muskets can auto-fire.


Auto fire is the defining characteristic of an assault rifle mate.

The South Falls wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
What do you think that means, exactly?

Well, since we should have a 'well-regulated militia', and ARs are originally army weapons, then we should have ARs to form a 1783-style militia.

This message has been supported and paid for by the National Rifle Association

DAE the NRA pays for all its political power

PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 12:18 pm
by The New California Republic
Novum Texas wrote:Molotovs are suprisingly effective against tanks

Meh. You have to aim for the engine block. Their effectiveness against the front, sides, or turret is questionable. You may as well piss against it, it'd be just as effective...

PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 1:02 pm
by Hurtful Thoughts
The New California Republic wrote:
Novum Texas wrote:Molotovs are suprisingly effective against tanks

Meh. You have to aim for the engine block. Their effectiveness against the front, sides, or turret is questionable. You may as well piss against it, it'd be just as effective...

It may damage the air-cleaners and maybe choke-out the engine.

But that's 'bout it unless somone opens a hatch and lets one burn inside the tank.... oil-fire smoke is pretty nasty in confined space.

It's usually more effective to place a quarter-stick of dynamite under the bustle and dislodge the turret-ring, forcing tank to BTFO.
-Add a mobility-kill, and all that's left is the rooftop MGs... which are still pretty deadly... especially coupled with its optics and the fact it can radio for help in the form of close-air.

PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 1:39 pm
by The South Falls
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
The South Falls wrote:Well, since we should have a 'well-regulated militia', and ARs are originally army weapons, then we should have ARs to form a 1783-style militia.

This message has been supported and paid for by the National Rifle Association


What do you think "well regulated militia" means?

A group of armed civilians, regulated by the gov't.

PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 1:43 pm
by Washington Resistance Army
The South Falls wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
What do you think "well regulated militia" means?

A group of armed civilians, regulated by the gov't.


You'd be wrong, the phrase in the 1790's had nothing to do with government regulation. Well regulated in ye olde English means in working order, in this case referring to people being armed and having their own ammo and such things.

PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 1:52 pm
by The Two Jerseys
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
The South Falls wrote:A group of armed civilians, regulated by the gov't.


You'd be wrong, the phrase in the 1790's had nothing to do with government regulation. Well regulated in ye olde English means in working order, in this case referring to people being armed and having their own ammo and such things.

Nonsense, everyone in the past was clearly a homosexual since they were always having a gay time. :p

PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 2:07 pm
by The Two Jerseys

PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 2:31 pm
by Aav Verinhall

Sure. We could call it genius. :D

PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 2:32 pm
by Washington Resistance Army

PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 2:34 pm
by Aav Verinhall
Washington Resistance Army wrote:


*cough*

Well damn. That's pretty scary.

PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 2:34 pm
by Hammer Britannia
Washington Resistance Army wrote:


*cough*

I needed this

For research...

Yeah...

Research...

PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 2:34 pm
by Hammer Britannia
Aav Verinhall wrote:

Sure. We could call it genius. :D

Don't you dare diss Ian McCollum

PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 2:39 pm
by Aav Verinhall
Hammer Britannia wrote:
Aav Verinhall wrote:Sure. We could call it genius. :D

Don't you dare diss Ian McCollum

Why? Is he someone special? I've never heard of him before in my life, tbh.

PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 2:40 pm
by Hammer Britannia
Aav Verinhall wrote:
Hammer Britannia wrote:Don't you dare diss Ian McCollum

Why? Is he someone special? I've never heard of him before in my life, tbh.

If you do not know who Ian McCollum is, you have no legal right to talk about guns

Period.

PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 2:41 pm
by Aav Verinhall
Hammer Britannia wrote:
Aav Verinhall wrote:Why? Is he someone special? I've never heard of him before in my life, tbh.

If you do not know who Ian McCollum is, you have no legal right to talk about guns

Period.

Actually, I think I do. I'm for gun control, and I don't watch random people on youtube talk about guns. I'm not that kind of person.

PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 2:46 pm
by The Two Jerseys
Washington Resistance Army wrote:


*cough*

You totally just went and Googled that and didn't have it bookmarked for years.

Nope, never heard of that book before in your life till I posted that link.

Nosireebob.

PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 2:47 pm
by Washington Resistance Army
The Two Jerseys wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
*cough*

You totally just went and Googled that and didn't have it bookmarked for years.

Nope, never heard of that book before in your life till I posted that link.

Nosireebob.


I have a physical copy too :p