Gun Control III - the Gunnening

[Len Hyet]

Yup. Armored column going down the road, Jimbo and his friends detonate 50kg of fertilizer under the tracks of the lead vehicle. That's a few hundred thousand dollars of damage right there. Column isn't moving until that vehicle's repaired or they destroy it before abandoning it.

This is insurgency 101.

Ok, fair, but how do you recruit?

How does any insurgency recruit? Word of mouth. Close-knit populations. Extended families. Townships.

[Wysten]

I can probably take out a tank

1600 tanks in the US army V potentially tens of millions of armed men?

RIP Tanks

And where would those ''millions of armed men'' come from?

And with WHAT?
Molotovs?

Molotovs are pretty good anti tank weapons.
*Starts to whistle Njet Molotov*

[East Ustya]

Well those ''rice farmers'' had support from China AND the USSR.

And?

You think nobody is going to fund rebels against the United States? Russia sure as shit would. China too. The US gets to the point where the populace is in active rebellion, the UK and France might get in on the action too.

Depends what kind of rebels....

[East Ustya]

And where would those ''millions of armed men'' come from?

And with WHAT?
Molotovs?

Molotovs are pretty good anti tank weapons.
*Starts to whistle Njet Molotov*

MODERN tanks. LOL

[The Two Jerseys]

Yup. Armored column going down the road, Jimbo and his friends detonate 50kg of fertilizer under the tracks of the lead vehicle. That's a few hundred thousand dollars of damage right there. Column isn't moving until that vehicle's repaired or they destroy it before abandoning it.

This is insurgency 101.

Ok, fair, but how do you recruit?

The government using tanks and gunships against its own citizens will do that for them.

Hearts and minds, people, hearts and minds.

[East Ustya]

Ok, fair, but how do you recruit?

How does any insurgency recruit? Word of mouth. Close-knit populations. Extended families. Townships.

Using what to unify them?

[Len Hyet]

And?

You think nobody is going to fund rebels against the United States? Russia sure as shit would. China too. The US gets to the point where the populace is in active rebellion, the UK and France might get in on the action too.

Meaning AMMO, TRAINING and SUPPLIES.

Any kind of real insurgency against the United States has a trained NCO corps of ex-military.

[Wysten]

Molotovs are pretty good anti tank weapons.
*Starts to whistle Njet Molotov*

MODERN tanks. LOL

MAYBE if I USE CAPS randomly THEN that will get my point across.

[East Ustya]

Ok, fair, but how do you recruit?

The government using tanks and gunships against its own citizens will do that for them.

Hearts and minds, people, hearts and minds.

IF they rebels are unified and have an IDEOLOGY.

[Len Hyet]

How does any insurgency recruit? Word of mouth. Close-knit populations. Extended families. Townships.

Using what to unify them?

I don't understand your question. What are you saying, that insurgencies can't recruit? Mate have you payed any attention to the world recently? I dunno how to break this to you but an insurgency can form, arm itself, and engage in asymmetric warfare against the government.

[Len Hyet]

The government using tanks and gunships against its own citizens will do that for them.

Hearts and minds, people, hearts and minds.

IF they rebels are unified and have an IDEOLOGY.

You don't think an American insurgency would have a core ideology?

Dude America is an ideology. We have nothing but our ideologies and our civics. We are not unified by race, culture, language, religion, or any kind of other bonding that holds nations together. Our entire being is predicated on a unity of civics and ideology.

[Novum Texas]

Molotovs are pretty good anti tank weapons.
*Starts to whistle Njet Molotov*

MODERN tanks. LOL

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[East Ustya]

Using what to unify them?

I don't understand your question. What are you saying, that insurgencies can't recruit? Mate have you payed any attention to the world recently? I dunno how to break this to you but an insurgency can form, arm itself, and engage in asymmetric warfare against the government.

Sure, but it depends on what country we are talking about.

Why do AMERICAN ppl need guns, when they are already right wingers.....
And most pro ppl are right wingers are they not?

[East Ustya]

MODERN tanks. LOL

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Not a tank. LOL

[The Two Jerseys]

The government using tanks and gunships against its own citizens will do that for them.

Hearts and minds, people, hearts and minds.

IF they rebels are unified and have an IDEOLOGY.

We have large groups of people rioting because the police shoot one person.

Imagine what's going to happen when the government starts blowing lots of people up with tanks and helicopters.

[East Ustya]

IF they rebels are unified and have an IDEOLOGY.

You don't think an American insurgency would have a core ideology?

Dude America is an ideology. We have nothing but our ideologies and our civics. We are not unified by race, culture, language, religion, or any kind of other bonding that holds nations together. Our entire being is predicated on a unity of civics and ideology.

WHAT ideology?

[Novum Texas]

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Not a tank. LOL

It's still a modern armored military vehicle

It's a tank in all but track, turrent, and name

[East Ustya]

IF they rebels are unified and have an IDEOLOGY.

We have large groups of people rioting because the police shoot one person.

Imagine what's going to happen when the government starts blowing lots of people up with tanks and helicopters.

That will not happen.

I hope. LOL

[East Ustya]

Not a tank. LOL

It's still a modern armored military vehicle

It's a tank in all but track, turrent, and name

Its an old BTR. LOL

[The Empire of Pretantia]

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Not a tank. LOL

Tell me why that won't work on a tank then.

You don't think an American insurgency would have a core ideology?

Dude America is an ideology. We have nothing but our ideologies and our civics. We are not unified by race, culture, language, religion, or any kind of other bonding that holds nations together. Our entire being is predicated on a unity of civics and ideology.

WHAT ideology?

American Liberalism. Duh.

[Len Hyet]

I don't understand your question. What are you saying, that insurgencies can't recruit? Mate have you payed any attention to the world recently? I dunno how to break this to you but an insurgency can form, arm itself, and engage in asymmetric warfare against the government.

Sure, but it depends on what country we are talking about.

Why do AMERICAN ppl need guns, when they are already right wingers.....
And most pro ppl are right wingers are they not?

"Why do you gun needs neeeeeeeeeeeeeed an AR-15?!?!?!?!?"

Because I don't trust the government and I don't trust my "fellow citizens".

Because the last time my people let themselves be disarmed we got trained to Aushwitz.

Because if, God forbid, the government should become so tyrannical that our only recourse is armed resistance then we will show them how to make the green grass fucking grow.

And if that doesn't convince you the only thing left to say is molon fucking labe.

[Novum Texas]

It's still a modern armored military vehicle

It's a tank in all but track, turrent, and name

Its an old BTR. LOL

You do realize adding "LOL" to the end of every sentence is just as effective as adding ":^)" or "U stupid" to the end of each sentence

[The Empire of Pretantia]

It's still a modern armored military vehicle

It's a tank in all but track, turrent, and name

Its an old BTR. LOL

And?

[Novum Texas]

Its an old BTR. LOL

And?

It's still an Armored Vehicle protected by the same armor tanks use

[The Two Jerseys]

It's still a modern armored military vehicle

It's a tank in all but track, turrent, and name

Its an old BTR. LOL

So what?

A tank engulfed in flames still won't be able to see anything, and it will suffer damage.