Gun Control III - the Gunnening

[Aclion]

Couldn't this just get thrown into the gun control thread instead?

Yes.

Isn't it funny how a thread that's not about gun control gets thrown in here to die, because it doesn't fit your narritive, yet the the MassShootingThreadOfTheWeekThat'sReallyJustAGunControlThread is fine.

[Telconi]

Couldn't this just get thrown into the gun control thread instead?

It's more about perception of the process then gun control specifically.

attempts to make it about gun control will result the offending poster being sacrificed to Orcus, demon prince of undeath as part of my attempt to achieve immortality as a lich.

How people perceive gun control is entirely the subject of gun control.

[Grinning Dragon]

The availability of guns at Walmart has become a hotly debated issue in the wake of two deadly shootings at its stores that killed 24 people.

More than 128,000 people have signed a petition urging Walmart to stop selling guns and take a stronger stance against firearms since the shootings at stores in El Paso, Texas, and Southaven, Mississippi. But the company has said it has no plans to stop selling them.

I went to Walmart with the intention of buying a gun last week as part of an investigation into the placement, selection, marketing, and security of firearms in Walmart's stores, and to learn more about the retailer's processes governing gun sales.

My journey to bring a gun home from Walmart turned out to be far more complicated than I expected...
https://www.businessinsider.com/walmart-gun-buying-review-virginia-store-2019-8

I'm curious about how people's expectations seem to be so different from reality, so;
For those who've never bough a gun show does this story square with the way the process is presented in general culture?
For those that have how does it compare to your own experiences buying guns(if any)? And how representative of the process do you think it is?
And for everyone who found it to be different why do you think there is such a difference?

For myself I'd say that her experience was a lot more complicated then my own, though only because she insisted on buying from Walmart, and had to deal with Walmart customer service being shitty. However the bit about needing to have a background check done(and the background check being fast AF) is accurate as well as needing to have all your information in order. If anything isn't as it should be they don't hesitate to refuse, even if it means losing a sale.
(also, I was a bit disappointed that the story didn't end with her finding out she was a prohibited person.)

My experience from either my LGS or a big box store like Academy, the whole process takes no more than 15 - 30 minutes. All depends on how busy the sales counter is.
The longest part is on me, deciding which one of the many firearms I am looking to purchase, I wish I could buy them all.

As to the story of that particular female, I think she made it harder than what it needed to be on herself, all in the name of smearing the processes since she most likely had approached it with her narrative already determined before she went through the process, then reality bitch slapped her.

[Telconi]

The availability of guns at Walmart has become a hotly debated issue in the wake of two deadly shootings at its stores that killed 24 people.

More than 128,000 people have signed a petition urging Walmart to stop selling guns and take a stronger stance against firearms since the shootings at stores in El Paso, Texas, and Southaven, Mississippi. But the company has said it has no plans to stop selling them.

I went to Walmart with the intention of buying a gun last week as part of an investigation into the placement, selection, marketing, and security of firearms in Walmart's stores, and to learn more about the retailer's processes governing gun sales.

My journey to bring a gun home from Walmart turned out to be far more complicated than I expected...
https://www.businessinsider.com/walmart-gun-buying-review-virginia-store-2019-8

I'm curious about how people's expectations seem to be so different from reality, so;
For those who've never bough a gun show does this story square with the way the process is presented in general culture?
For those that have how does it compare to your own experiences buying guns(if any)? And how representative of the process do you think it is?
And for everyone who found it to be different why do you think there is such a difference?

For myself I'd say that her experience was a lot more complicated then my own, though only because she insisted on buying from Walmart, and had to deal with Walmart customer service being shitty. However the bit about needing to have a background check done(and the background check being fast AF) is accurate as well as needing to have all your information in order. If anything isn't as it should be they don't hesitate to refuse, even if it means losing a sale.
(also, I was a bit disappointed that the story didn't end with her finding out she was a prohibited person.)

My experience from either my LGS or a big box store like Academy, the whole process takes no more than 15 - 30 minutes. All depends on how busy the sales counter is.
The longest part is on me, deciding which one of the many firearms I am looking to purchase, I wish I could buy them all.

As to the story of that particular female, I think she made it harder than what it needed to be on herself, all in the name of smearing the processes since she most likely had approached it with her narrative already determined before she went through the process, then reality bitch slapped her.

While my experiences are infinitely more asinine than yours because California, it's not really that complex of an idea.

[Chernoslavia]

Yes.

Isn't it funny how a thread that's not about gun control gets thrown in here to die, because it doesn't fit your narritive, yet the the MassShootingThreadOfTheWeekThat'sReallyJustAGunControlThread is fine.

This tbh lol.

[Telconi]

Isn't it funny how a thread that's not about gun control gets thrown in here to die, because it doesn't fit your narritive, yet the the MassShootingThreadOfTheWeekThat'sReallyJustAGunControlThread is fine.

This tbh lol.

Half of this, the thread in question fits under the umbrella of this thread, but entertaining an entirely new thread every time anyone gets shot is pretty absurd.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

This tbh lol.

Half of this, the thread in question fits under the umbrella of this thread, but entertaining an entirely new thread every time anyone gets shot is pretty absurd.

I hate megathreads in general. What is wrong with a few threads on a farely similar subject? Unless they're clogging the forum they just lead to better-quality discussion.

[Aclion]

It's more about perception of the process then gun control specifically.

attempts to make it about gun control will result the offending poster being sacrificed to Orcus, demon prince of undeath as part of my attempt to achieve immortality as a lich.

How people perceive gun control is entirely the subject of gun control.

except that this is about buying a gun not gun control

[Telconi]

How people perceive gun control is entirely the subject of gun control.

except that this is about buying a gun not gun control

It was specifically about not buying a gun though. It was about attempting to, and being denied the sale, as a result of gun control regulations she failed to satisfy.

[Aclion]

except that this is about buying a gun not gun control

It was specifically about not buying a gun though. It was about attempting to, and being denied the sale, as a result of gun control regulations she failed to satisfy.

I was about her completely underestimating what was involved in buying a gun

[Telconi]

It was specifically about not buying a gun though. It was about attempting to, and being denied the sale, as a result of gun control regulations she failed to satisfy.

I was about her completely underestimating what was involved in buying a gun

Gun control, is what's involved, so back to the original statement, people's perception of gun control is on the subject of gun control.

[The Two Jerseys]

Did you hear about the latest mass shooting?

Of course you didn't, because it doesn't fit the agenda: happened in a black neighborhood, likely connected to drugs/gangs or a personal dispute, and no scary black rifles were involved.

[Grinning Dragon]

Did you hear about the latest mass shooting?

Of course you didn't, because it doesn't fit the agenda: happened in a black neighborhood, likely connected to drugs/gangs or a personal dispute, and no scary black rifles were involved.

How about a made up sniper attack?
Lancaster deputy confesses to fabricating sniper shooting, authorities say

[Telconi]

Did you hear about the latest mass shooting?

Of course you didn't, because it doesn't fit the agenda: happened in a black neighborhood, likely connected to drugs/gangs or a personal dispute, and no scary black rifles were involved.

How about a made up sniper attack?
Lancaster deputy confesses to fabricating sniper shooting, authorities say

What the shit?

[Paddy O Fernature]

Did you hear about the latest mass shooting?

Of course you didn't, because it doesn't fit the agenda: happened in a black neighborhood, likely connected to drugs/gangs or a personal dispute, and no scary black rifles were involved.

Not surprised in the least... and just goes to further show the obvious bias in the media and the left.

How about a made up sniper attack?
Lancaster deputy confesses to fabricating sniper shooting, authorities say

Wait, what the fuck?

[Diopolis]

The availability of guns at Walmart has become a hotly debated issue in the wake of two deadly shootings at its stores that killed 24 people.

More than 128,000 people have signed a petition urging Walmart to stop selling guns and take a stronger stance against firearms since the shootings at stores in El Paso, Texas, and Southaven, Mississippi. But the company has said it has no plans to stop selling them.

I went to Walmart with the intention of buying a gun last week as part of an investigation into the placement, selection, marketing, and security of firearms in Walmart's stores, and to learn more about the retailer's processes governing gun sales.

My journey to bring a gun home from Walmart turned out to be far more complicated than I expected...
https://www.businessinsider.com/walmart-gun-buying-review-virginia-store-2019-8

I'm curious about how people's expectations seem to be so different from reality, so;
For those who've never bough a gun show does this story square with the way the process is presented in general culture?
For those that have how does it compare to your own experiences buying guns(if any)? And how representative of the process do you think it is?
And for everyone who found it to be different why do you think there is such a difference?

For myself I'd say that her experience was a lot more complicated then my own, though only because she insisted on buying from Walmart, and had to deal with Walmart customer service being shitty. However the bit about needing to have a background check done(and the background check being fast AF) is accurate as well as needing to have all your information in order. If anything isn't as it should be they don't hesitate to refuse, even if it means losing a sale.
(also, I was a bit disappointed that the story didn't end with her finding out she was a prohibited person.)

My experience is-
There’s paperwork on the process. The FFL transfer form is pretty simple. She was right about needing an updated ID with the correct address, but my gun store will not accept a utility bill. It has to be a current ID. In practice, they strongly prefer a concealed handgun license, but will accept a drivers license.
There’s a background check immediately afterwards. It takes less than 30 minutes. If you can provide a Texas license to carry a handgun, you are exempt from the background check once they make sure it’s still valid. This saves less than five minutes, but the dealer claims it saves an enormous amount of paperwork.
The dealer will give you a brief lecture about the gun. Things like what kinds of accessories you can buy, the kind of ammo it takes, any particular persnickety bits about the gun, etc. Notably, they have not skipped this part even if it was apparent I knew what I was buying. Most of the time, I’ve gotten a free box of ammo, but that has more to do with good customer service than an industry practice.

[Grinning Dragon]

Obvious the cop wanted his 15 minutes of fame, and since all the hot drummed up moral outrage is over firearms right now, why not jump on that band wagon and get the pearl clutching in action.

[Pax Nerdvana]

That's the first I've heard about either. We need to figure out a way to fix the media.

[Paddy O Fernature]

Obvious the cop wanted his 15 minutes of fame, and since all the hot drummed up moral outrage is over firearms right now, why not jump on that band wagon and get the pearl clutching in action.

Sadly, there are people like this in every large organization. Best we can hope to do is mitigate and speedily prosecute them when they pop up from time to time.

That's the first I've heard about either. We need to figure out a way to fix the media.

The media is nothing more then pay for propaganda corporations at this point, the only way to fix them would be to dismantle them and rebuild them from the ground up as well as layer in a few laws that make it a crime to report biased media and/or fake news.

[Pax Nerdvana]

Obvious the cop wanted his 15 minutes of fame, and since all the hot drummed up moral outrage is over firearms right now, why not jump on that band wagon and get the pearl clutching in action.

Sadly, there are people like this in every large organization. Best we can hope to do is mitigate and speedily prosecute them when they pop up from time to time.

That's the first I've heard about either. We need to figure out a way to fix the media.

The media is nothing more then pay for propaganda corporations at this point, the only way to fix them would be to dismantle them and rebuild them from the ground up as well as layer in a few laws that make it a crime to report biased media and/or fake news.

That could work. We also need to educate people on the truth about how guns work.

[Paddy O Fernature]

Sadly, there are people like this in every large organization. Best we can hope to do is mitigate and speedily prosecute them when they pop up from time to time.



The media is nothing more then pay for propaganda corporations at this point, the only way to fix them would be to dismantle them and rebuild them from the ground up as well as layer in a few laws that make it a crime to report biased media and/or fake news.

That could work. We also need to educate people on the truth about how guns work.

I've said it once and I'll say it again, Shooters/Hunters Education should be an elective option at every High school in America, as well as implementation firearm safety into early grade school as well at even the most basic of levels. I personally believe that this alone would be enough to see a reduction in accidental deaths of children around firearms.

[Pax Nerdvana]

That could work. We also need to educate people on the truth about how guns work.

I've said it once and I'll say it again, Shooters/Hunters Education should be an elective option at every High school in America, as well as implementation firearm safety into early grade school as well at even the most basic of levels. I personally believe that this alone would be enough to see a reduction in accidental deaths of children around firearms.

I wholeheartedly agree. It should be mandatory, imo. I know I would've loved a class like that.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

That could work. We also need to educate people on the truth about how guns work.

I've said it once and I'll say it again, Shooters/Hunters Education should be an elective option at every High school in America, as well as implementation firearm safety into early grade school as well at even the most basic of levels. I personally believe that this alone would be enough to see a reduction in accidental deaths of children around firearms.

Letting children near guns would cause some bleeding hearts to explode from fear though. They'll probably become the next school shooter if they're exposed to those evil guns!

[Paddy O Fernature]

I've said it once and I'll say it again, Shooters/Hunters Education should be an elective option at every High school in America, as well as implementation firearm safety into early grade school as well at even the most basic of levels. I personally believe that this alone would be enough to see a reduction in accidental deaths of children around firearms.

Letting children near guns would cause some bleeding hearts to explode from fear though. They'll probably become the next school shooter if they're exposed to those evil guns!

*Shrug*

I literally couldn't care less if it upsets some overly sensitive people. Plus if it saves even one life, why would they be against it? Unless of course their entire mantra is founded on questionable bullshit and hypocrisy, but that can't be it... right?

[Grinning Dragon]

Letting children near guns would cause some bleeding hearts to explode from fear though. They'll probably become the next school shooter if they're exposed to those evil guns!

*Shrug*

I literally couldn't care less if it upsets some overly sensitive people. Plus if it saves even one life, why would they be against it? Unless of course their entire mantra is founded on questionable bullshit and hypocrisy, but that can't be it... right?

Agreed. Some parents already shriek and piss n moan over sex education, why should this be any different.

I've educated all of my children on firearms, safety, maintenance, shooting proficiency, etc. since an early age. Quite amazing in how their lil minds are sponges and crave more information input like Johnny 5.
The best reactions are from pearl clutching parents who recoil in fear seeing pics my kids when they were young firing handguns and evil black rifles at the range. I laugh at their squeamishness. bunch of fucking mice those parents are.