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Gun Control n Stuff - Only 2 Options Pick Carefully

If my neighbors dog craps on my lawn I have a god-given right to respond with the use of force up to and including recreational nuclear warheads
643
50%
Guns are literally the embodiment of all evil ever created by mankind, and when the last gun is finally destroyed the entire world will be at peace
210
16%
I'm lame and choose not to use a poll with wild stereotypes about both sides because I'm lame
424
33%
 
Total votes : 1277

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Postby Kubrath » Fri Mar 30, 2018 12:45 pm

Ors Might wrote:
Kubrath wrote:
When the other guy has drones, tanks and bombers, you'll find those odds shrinking rapidly to the point of insignificance. But hey, at least you'll go out with a fight.

I mean, in that situation I’d be screwed either way. At least that way I could maintain some image of dignity.


In the grand scheme of things, no one would really care if you were blown off while you were carrying an iPhone or if it was blown off carrying an AR-15.
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Postby Kramanica » Fri Mar 30, 2018 12:45 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
Sovaal wrote:If a person can be trusted with one gun why not multiple? That’s just ridiculous.

How many guns do people need to defend themselves outside of a warzone or zombie apocalypse? Never heard of a shooter stopped by someone wielding two guns akimbo.

So what?
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Postby Sovaal » Fri Mar 30, 2018 12:46 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
Sovaal wrote:If a person can be trusted with one gun why not multiple? That’s just ridiculous.

How many guns do people need to defend themselves outside of a warzone or zombie apocalypse? Never heard of a shooter stopped by someone wielding two guns akimbo.

And how is having multiple guns any worse then having one?
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No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is
the worst form of government, except for all the others that have been tried from time to time." -
Winston Churchill, 1947.

"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell

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Postby Sovaal » Fri Mar 30, 2018 12:47 pm

Kramanica wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:How many guns do people need to defend themselves outside of a warzone or zombie apocalypse? Never heard of a shooter stopped by someone wielding two guns akimbo.

So what?

No you see you own one gun over the limit so you must be a child murderer.
Most of the time I have no idea what the hell I'm doing or talking about.

”Many forms of government have been tried and will be tried in this world of sin and woe.
No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is
the worst form of government, except for all the others that have been tried from time to time." -
Winston Churchill, 1947.

"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell

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Postby Petrasylvania » Fri Mar 30, 2018 12:47 pm

Kramanica wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:How many guns do people need to defend themselves outside of a warzone or zombie apocalypse? Never heard of a shooter stopped by someone wielding two guns akimbo.

So what?

You don't give a shit, but most people don't need a stocked armory to protect themselves and their homes.
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Postby Valgora » Fri Mar 30, 2018 12:47 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
Sovaal wrote:If a person can be trusted with one gun why not multiple? That’s just ridiculous.

How many guns do people need to defend themselves outside of a warzone or zombie apocalypse? Never heard of a shooter stopped by someone wielding two guns akimbo.


I should be able to get as many guns as I fuckin' want.
This "never heard of a shoot stopped by someone wielding two guns akimbo" doesn't fuckin' matter.
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Postby Kubrath » Fri Mar 30, 2018 12:48 pm

Sovaal wrote:
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I'll just tell you what I told the other person:
"What I want to do here is to point out to those who cry "muh freedoms" to stop and think about how well they practice what they preach. The "it was a long time ago, it doesn't concern me" argument is the weakest shit one can come up with. Instead of running around pretending to be a victim, how about one goes and asks their granddaddy or their daddy about how well they used their 2nd Amendment rights to curtail government oppression during their lifetime."

Uh huh. Tell me, how am I supposed to right atrocities made years ago?
And I fail to see how I’m “pretending to be a victim”. But hey, you just want to insult me that’s fine too I guess.


Go ahead and get triggered, see if I care. Nobody's asking you to time travel. I'm just making an observation about the inaction of people with very similar views on their "freedoms" and how one should check their principles (as opposed to their privilege) before they opine about said "freedoms".
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If your commanders are surprised every time they lose a squad, they probably die several minutes into a campaign due to being critically over-gasped.

North Valinka: What kind of an oxymoron is "Libertarian Police State"?
Petroviya: It arrests law makers.

Phocidaea wrote:Maybe democracy isn't the way?

Of course democracy is the way, dammit! There is no such thing as too much democracy!

Fuckin' dictatorships.

Sociobiology wrote:This is the problem with trying to understand the universe with a brain evolved to find ripe fruit and scream defiance at the ape in the next tree.

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Postby Kramanica » Fri Mar 30, 2018 12:48 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
Kramanica wrote:So what?

You don't give a shit, but most people don't need a stocked armory to protect themselves and their homes.

So you literally just want to restrict the number of guns you can own for fucking arbitrary reasons.

Sounds about right.
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Postby Petrasylvania » Fri Mar 30, 2018 12:50 pm

Valgora wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:How many guns do people need to defend themselves outside of a warzone or zombie apocalypse? Never heard of a shooter stopped by someone wielding two guns akimbo.


I should be able to get as many guns as I fuckin' want.
This "never heard of a shoot stopped by someone wielding two guns akimbo" doesn't fuckin' matter.

The problem is when your side insists the same right to get as many dakka as you want also applies to people who have a history of disturbing messages on social media and/or have mental issues that make them dangerous to self and others.
Crimes committed by Muslims will be proof of a pan-Islamic plot and Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand, crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of mentally ill lone wolves who do not represent their professed belief system at all.
The probability of someone secretly participating in homosexual acts is directly proportional to the frequency and loudness of their publicly professed disapproval and/or disgust for homosexuality.
If Donald Trump accuses an individual of malfeasance without evidence, it is almost a certainty either he or someone associated with him has in fact committed that very same malfeasance to a greater degree.

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Postby Kubrath » Fri Mar 30, 2018 12:50 pm

You can wield one gun. Great. That's no reason why you should be allowed to have 100. You see, when you assert something, the burden of proof is on you to prove that assertion. So you assert you need 100 guns. If your only justification is "because I want them", well, that's not really an argument, now is it? I want a lot of things, too. Doesn't mean I should get them.
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If your commanders are surprised every time they lose a squad, they probably die several minutes into a campaign due to being critically over-gasped.

North Valinka: What kind of an oxymoron is "Libertarian Police State"?
Petroviya: It arrests law makers.

Phocidaea wrote:Maybe democracy isn't the way?

Of course democracy is the way, dammit! There is no such thing as too much democracy!

Fuckin' dictatorships.

Sociobiology wrote:This is the problem with trying to understand the universe with a brain evolved to find ripe fruit and scream defiance at the ape in the next tree.

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Postby Sovaal » Fri Mar 30, 2018 12:50 pm

Kubrath wrote:
Sovaal wrote:Uh huh. Tell me, how am I supposed to right atrocities made years ago?
And I fail to see how I’m “pretending to be a victim”. But hey, you just want to insult me that’s fine too I guess.


Go ahead and get triggered, see if I care. Nobody's asking you to time travel. I'm just making an observation about the inaction of people with very similar views on their "freedoms" and how one should check their principles (as opposed to their privilege) before they opine about said "freedoms".

Uh huh. Still fail to see how that relates to me but that’s cool.
Most of the time I have no idea what the hell I'm doing or talking about.

”Many forms of government have been tried and will be tried in this world of sin and woe.
No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is
the worst form of government, except for all the others that have been tried from time to time." -
Winston Churchill, 1947.

"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell

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Postby Sovaal » Fri Mar 30, 2018 12:52 pm

Kubrath wrote:You can wield one gun. Great. That's no reason why you should be allowed to have 100. You see, when you assert something, the burden of proof is on you to prove that assertion. So you assert you need 100 guns. If your only justification is "because I want them", well, that's not really an argument, now is it? I want a lot of things, too. Doesn't mean I should get them.

I fail to see how some one is fit for one gun but not multiple.
Most of the time I have no idea what the hell I'm doing or talking about.

”Many forms of government have been tried and will be tried in this world of sin and woe.
No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is
the worst form of government, except for all the others that have been tried from time to time." -
Winston Churchill, 1947.

"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell

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Postby Kubrath » Fri Mar 30, 2018 12:52 pm

Kramanica wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:You don't give a shit, but most people don't need a stocked armory to protect themselves and their homes.

So you literally just want to restrict the number of guns you can own for fucking arbitrary reasons.

Sounds about right.


Nothing arbitrary about that, mate. You don't need that many guns for self-defense. Jesus, where the hell do you guys live, Syria?
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If your commanders are surprised every time they lose a squad, they probably die several minutes into a campaign due to being critically over-gasped.

North Valinka: What kind of an oxymoron is "Libertarian Police State"?
Petroviya: It arrests law makers.

Phocidaea wrote:Maybe democracy isn't the way?

Of course democracy is the way, dammit! There is no such thing as too much democracy!

Fuckin' dictatorships.

Sociobiology wrote:This is the problem with trying to understand the universe with a brain evolved to find ripe fruit and scream defiance at the ape in the next tree.

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Postby Kramanica » Fri Mar 30, 2018 12:52 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
Valgora wrote:
I should be able to get as many guns as I fuckin' want.
This "never heard of a shoot stopped by someone wielding two guns akimbo" doesn't fuckin' matter.

The problem is when your side insists the same right to get as many dakka as you want also applies to people who have a history of disturbing messages on social media and/or have mental issues that make them dangerous to self and others.

And how many mass shootings recently have occurred where the perp used more than one gun?

Do you think they're just gonna go full Terminator and carry one rifle in each hand?

Again, arbitrary and bullshit.
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Postby Valgora » Fri Mar 30, 2018 12:53 pm

Kubrath wrote:
Kramanica wrote:So you literally just want to restrict the number of guns you can own for fucking arbitrary reasons.

Sounds about right.


Nothing arbitrary about that, mate. You don't need that many guns for self-defense. Jesus, where the hell do you guys live, Syria?


I don't need to justify the number of guns I own.... want to own.
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Postby Kubrath » Fri Mar 30, 2018 12:53 pm

Sovaal wrote:
Kubrath wrote:
Go ahead and get triggered, see if I care. Nobody's asking you to time travel. I'm just making an observation about the inaction of people with very similar views on their "freedoms" and how one should check their principles (as opposed to their privilege) before they opine about said "freedoms".

Uh huh. Still fail to see how that relates to me but that’s cool.


That's your problem, mate, not mine.
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If your commanders are surprised every time they lose a squad, they probably die several minutes into a campaign due to being critically over-gasped.

North Valinka: What kind of an oxymoron is "Libertarian Police State"?
Petroviya: It arrests law makers.

Phocidaea wrote:Maybe democracy isn't the way?

Of course democracy is the way, dammit! There is no such thing as too much democracy!

Fuckin' dictatorships.

Sociobiology wrote:This is the problem with trying to understand the universe with a brain evolved to find ripe fruit and scream defiance at the ape in the next tree.

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Postby Sovaal » Fri Mar 30, 2018 12:54 pm

Kramanica wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:You don't give a shit, but most people don't need a stocked armory to protect themselves and their homes.

So you literally just want to restrict the number of guns you can own for fucking arbitrary reasons.

Sounds about right.

And I still fail to see why there should be one.
Most of the time I have no idea what the hell I'm doing or talking about.

”Many forms of government have been tried and will be tried in this world of sin and woe.
No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is
the worst form of government, except for all the others that have been tried from time to time." -
Winston Churchill, 1947.

"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell

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Postby Sovaal » Fri Mar 30, 2018 12:55 pm

Kubrath wrote:
Kramanica wrote:So you literally just want to restrict the number of guns you can own for fucking arbitrary reasons.

Sounds about right.


Nothing arbitrary about that, mate. You don't need that many guns for self-defense. Jesus, where the hell do you guys live, Syria?

Yah no thats pretty fucking arbitrary. What if I want to do skeet shooting or duck or game hunting or target shooting or even competition shooting?
And a gun best for home defense isn’t going to be the one best for personal carry.

So yah pretty fucking arbitrary.
Most of the time I have no idea what the hell I'm doing or talking about.

”Many forms of government have been tried and will be tried in this world of sin and woe.
No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is
the worst form of government, except for all the others that have been tried from time to time." -
Winston Churchill, 1947.

"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell

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Postby Sovaal » Fri Mar 30, 2018 12:55 pm

Kubrath wrote:
Sovaal wrote:Uh huh. Still fail to see how that relates to me but that’s cool.


That's your problem, mate, not mine.

Uh huh, sure thing.
Most of the time I have no idea what the hell I'm doing or talking about.

”Many forms of government have been tried and will be tried in this world of sin and woe.
No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is
the worst form of government, except for all the others that have been tried from time to time." -
Winston Churchill, 1947.

"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell

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Postby Kubrath » Fri Mar 30, 2018 12:57 pm

Sovaal wrote:
Kubrath wrote:You can wield one gun. Great. That's no reason why you should be allowed to have 100. You see, when you assert something, the burden of proof is on you to prove that assertion. So you assert you need 100 guns. If your only justification is "because I want them", well, that's not really an argument, now is it? I want a lot of things, too. Doesn't mean I should get them.

I fail to see how some one is fit for one gun but not multiple.


Every additional gun is an additional hazard. Thinking that you're too responsible and careful for anything to happen is just asking for trouble.
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If your commanders are surprised every time they lose a squad, they probably die several minutes into a campaign due to being critically over-gasped.

North Valinka: What kind of an oxymoron is "Libertarian Police State"?
Petroviya: It arrests law makers.

Phocidaea wrote:Maybe democracy isn't the way?

Of course democracy is the way, dammit! There is no such thing as too much democracy!

Fuckin' dictatorships.

Sociobiology wrote:This is the problem with trying to understand the universe with a brain evolved to find ripe fruit and scream defiance at the ape in the next tree.

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Postby Mujahidah » Fri Mar 30, 2018 12:57 pm

Kubrath wrote:
Sovaal wrote:I fail to see how some one is fit for one gun but not multiple.


Every additional gun is an additional hazard. Thinking that you're too responsible and careful for anything to happen is just asking for trouble.


If you trust someone with one gun theres no reason to not trust them with five. You just aren't making sense right now.
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Postby Kramanica » Fri Mar 30, 2018 12:58 pm

Kubrath wrote:
Kramanica wrote:So you literally just want to restrict the number of guns you can own for fucking arbitrary reasons.

Sounds about right.


Nothing arbitrary about that, mate. You don't need that many guns for self-defense. Jesus, where the hell do you guys live, Syria?

I'm not hurting anyone so why do you care?
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Postby Sovaal » Fri Mar 30, 2018 12:58 pm

Kubrath wrote:
Sovaal wrote:I fail to see how some one is fit for one gun but not multiple.


Every additional gun is an additional hazard. Thinking that you're too responsible and careful for anything to happen is just asking for trouble.

You realize most gun safes are made for multiple guns, right?

Anyway, they already got a fucking gun, if they wanted to cause damage they could.
Most of the time I have no idea what the hell I'm doing or talking about.

”Many forms of government have been tried and will be tried in this world of sin and woe.
No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is
the worst form of government, except for all the others that have been tried from time to time." -
Winston Churchill, 1947.

"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell

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Postby Kubrath » Fri Mar 30, 2018 1:00 pm

Sovaal wrote:
Kubrath wrote:
Nothing arbitrary about that, mate. You don't need that many guns for self-defense. Jesus, where the hell do you guys live, Syria?

Yah no thats pretty fucking arbitrary. What if I want to do skeet shooting or duck or game hunting or target shooting or even competition shooting?
And a gun best for home defense isn’t going to be the one best for personal carry.

So yah pretty fucking arbitrary.


What, you need 100 Kalashnikovs to go duck hunting? Get real, mate. A shotgun would suffice.
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If your commanders are surprised every time they lose a squad, they probably die several minutes into a campaign due to being critically over-gasped.

North Valinka: What kind of an oxymoron is "Libertarian Police State"?
Petroviya: It arrests law makers.

Phocidaea wrote:Maybe democracy isn't the way?

Of course democracy is the way, dammit! There is no such thing as too much democracy!

Fuckin' dictatorships.

Sociobiology wrote:This is the problem with trying to understand the universe with a brain evolved to find ripe fruit and scream defiance at the ape in the next tree.

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Postby Valgora » Fri Mar 30, 2018 1:01 pm

Kubrath wrote:
Sovaal wrote:Yah no thats pretty fucking arbitrary. What if I want to do skeet shooting or duck or game hunting or target shooting or even competition shooting?
And a gun best for home defense isn’t going to be the one best for personal carry.

So yah pretty fucking arbitrary.


What, you need 100 Kalashnikovs to go duck hunting? Get real, mate. A shotgun would suffice.


No one is going to go duck hunting with a Kalashnikov.
Get your facts right.
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