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Gun Control n Stuff - Only 2 Options Pick Carefully

If my neighbors dog craps on my lawn I have a god-given right to respond with the use of force up to and including recreational nuclear warheads
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50%
Guns are literally the embodiment of all evil ever created by mankind, and when the last gun is finally destroyed the entire world will be at peace
210
16%
I'm lame and choose not to use a poll with wild stereotypes about both sides because I'm lame
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33%
 
Total votes : 1277

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Grinning Dragon
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Postby Grinning Dragon » Tue Aug 20, 2019 7:09 pm

Paddy O Fernature wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote:Nah, nah, since it accepts a magazine, it would be a baby killing soul sucking fully thumb activated semi-sem- automatic, planet destroyer death star.


With a shoulder thing that goes up, and a thirty caliber clip?

That goes ghost when authorities are near. :rofl:

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Postby Gig em Aggies » Wed Aug 21, 2019 5:27 am

Grinning Dragon wrote:
Paddy O Fernature wrote:
With a shoulder thing that goes up, and a thirty caliber clip?

That goes ghost when authorities are near. :rofl:

Does No Russian fit somewhere in there as well?
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Wed Aug 21, 2019 6:12 am

Gig em Aggies wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote:That goes ghost when authorities are near. :rofl:

Does No Russian fit somewhere in there as well?

Every imported weapon is an AK-47. *nods*
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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Wed Aug 21, 2019 6:22 am

The Two Jerseys wrote:
Gig em Aggies wrote:Does No Russian fit somewhere in there as well?

Every imported weapon is an AK-47. *nods*


Except AKM's, those are clearly Glawks.

*Nod nod*

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Postby Grinning Dragon » Wed Aug 21, 2019 6:46 am

Paddy O Fernature wrote:
The Two Jerseys wrote:Every imported weapon is an AK-47. *nods*


Except AKM's, those are clearly Glawks.

*Nod nod*

Reminded me of this. :rofl:
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Postby The Emerald Legion » Wed Aug 21, 2019 6:47 am

Is that a mixer without the blades attached next to that car?
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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Wed Aug 21, 2019 6:51 am

Grinning Dragon wrote:
Paddy O Fernature wrote:
Except AKM's, those are clearly Glawks.

*Nod nod*

Reminded me of this. :rofl:


Pretty much. :lol:

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Postby Grinning Dragon » Wed Aug 21, 2019 6:51 am

The Emerald Legion wrote:Is that a mixer without the blades attached next to that car?

I think it's one of those cheap dollar store nerf like toys

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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Wed Aug 21, 2019 6:53 am

Grinning Dragon wrote:
The Emerald Legion wrote:Is that a mixer without the blades attached next to that car?

I think it's one of those cheap dollar store nerf like toys


That's a deadly assault weapon in Australia, the pinnacle of culture that anti's wish we could be.

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Postby Grinning Dragon » Wed Aug 21, 2019 6:56 am

Paddy O Fernature wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote:I think it's one of those cheap dollar store nerf like toys


That's a deadly assault weapon in Australia, the pinnacle of culture that anti's wish we could be.

OMG. :rofl: How did I miss this one.
Seriously Aus, a nerf gun needs to be banned? Fucking mouse.

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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Wed Aug 21, 2019 6:59 am

Grinning Dragon wrote:
Paddy O Fernature wrote:
That's a deadly assault weapon in Australia, the pinnacle of culture that anti's wish we could be.

OMG. :rofl: How did I miss this one.
Seriously Aus, a nerf gun needs to be banned? Fucking mouse.


Clearly, they are doing what's right and thinking of the children by denying them having any fun at all in the name of the greater good.

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Postby Grinning Dragon » Wed Aug 21, 2019 7:00 am

Paddy O Fernature wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote:OMG. :rofl: How did I miss this one.
Seriously Aus, a nerf gun needs to be banned? Fucking mouse.


Clearly, they are doing what's right and thinking of the children by denying them having any fun at all in the name of the greater good.

About as bad as a local wild karen throwing a fit over kids having a water fight with water guns such as those evil Super Soakers ®

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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Wed Aug 21, 2019 7:04 am

Grinning Dragon wrote:
Paddy O Fernature wrote:
Clearly, they are doing what's right and thinking of the children by denying them having any fun at all in the name of the greater good.

About as bad as a local wild karen throwing a fit over kids having a water fight with water guns such as those evil Super Soakers ®


Even further proof that these people need to be locked up for their own good.

What a damned loon.

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Postby Pax Nerdvana » Wed Aug 21, 2019 12:40 pm

The Emerald Legion wrote:Is that a mixer without the blades attached next to that car?

It's a potato gun. I had one just like it when I was a kid. You stick the barrel into the potato, bend it so a chunk is wedged inside the barrel, remove it, and then pull the trigger.
And why the crap would anyone ban Nerf guns? That's just plain stupid.
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Ammunition supply-chain (6.5x55 Swede and .303 British, although available, isn't exactly everywhere)
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Wed Aug 21, 2019 12:46 pm

Grinning Dragon wrote:
Paddy O Fernature wrote:
Clearly, they are doing what's right and thinking of the children by denying them having any fun at all in the name of the greater good.

About as bad as a local wild karen throwing a fit over kids having a water fight with water guns such as those evil Super Soakers ®

The guy who invented Super Soakers was an Air Force officer, so clearly they're Weapons of WarTM
"The Duke of Texas" is too formal for regular use. Just call me "Your Grace".
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Postby Pax Nerdvana » Wed Aug 21, 2019 12:51 pm

The Two Jerseys wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote:About as bad as a local wild karen throwing a fit over kids having a water fight with water guns such as those evil Super Soakers ®

The guy who invented Super Soakers was an Air Force officer, so clearly they're Weapons of WarTM

Wasn't he working on booster rockets or something?
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We Will Not Comply
They can’t stop the Signal
"The universe did never make sense; I suspect it was built on government contract."
-Robert Heinlein

"Affordability
Suitability (.22LR for squirrels, bigger .22s for long range little things, and big-bore for legal hunting reasons, etc)
Ammunition supply-chain (6.5x55 Swede and .303 British, although available, isn't exactly everywhere)
If it's ugly, uncomfortable, and can't shoot straight, but it accomplishes the above, then it's either a Mosin or a Hi-Point."
-Hurtful Thoughts on stuff you want in a gun

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Postby The Two Jerseys » Wed Aug 21, 2019 12:52 pm

Pax Nerdvana wrote:
The Two Jerseys wrote:The guy who invented Super Soakers was an Air Force officer, so clearly they're Weapons of WarTM

Wasn't he working on booster rockets or something?

Something like that, I know he worked for NASA as well.
"The Duke of Texas" is too formal for regular use. Just call me "Your Grace".
"If I would like to watch goodness, sanity, God and logic being fucked I would watch Japanese porn." -Nightkill the Emperor
"This thread makes me wish I was a moron so that I wouldn't have to comprehend how stupid the topic is." -The Empire of Pretantia
Head of State: HM King Louis
Head of Government: The Rt. Hon. James O'Dell MP, Prime Minister
Ambassador to the World Assembly: HE Sir John Ross "J.R." Ewing II, Bt.
Join Excalibur Squadron. We're Commandos who fly Spitfires. Chicks dig Commandos who fly Spitfires.

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Postby Pax Nerdvana » Wed Aug 21, 2019 12:54 pm

The Two Jerseys wrote:
Pax Nerdvana wrote:Wasn't he working on booster rockets or something?

Something like that, I know he worked for NASA as well.

That sounds right.
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We Will Not Comply
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"The universe did never make sense; I suspect it was built on government contract."
-Robert Heinlein

"Affordability
Suitability (.22LR for squirrels, bigger .22s for long range little things, and big-bore for legal hunting reasons, etc)
Ammunition supply-chain (6.5x55 Swede and .303 British, although available, isn't exactly everywhere)
If it's ugly, uncomfortable, and can't shoot straight, but it accomplishes the above, then it's either a Mosin or a Hi-Point."
-Hurtful Thoughts on stuff you want in a gun

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Postby The Two Jerseys » Wed Aug 21, 2019 1:02 pm

Forgot to mention, I visited Lexington and Concord the other day.

Being there really makes one appreciate private firearms ownership.
"The Duke of Texas" is too formal for regular use. Just call me "Your Grace".
"If I would like to watch goodness, sanity, God and logic being fucked I would watch Japanese porn." -Nightkill the Emperor
"This thread makes me wish I was a moron so that I wouldn't have to comprehend how stupid the topic is." -The Empire of Pretantia
Head of State: HM King Louis
Head of Government: The Rt. Hon. James O'Dell MP, Prime Minister
Ambassador to the World Assembly: HE Sir John Ross "J.R." Ewing II, Bt.
Join Excalibur Squadron. We're Commandos who fly Spitfires. Chicks dig Commandos who fly Spitfires.

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Postby Pax Nerdvana » Wed Aug 21, 2019 1:04 pm

The Two Jerseys wrote:Forgot to mention, I visited Lexington and Concord the other day.

Being there really makes one appreciate private firearms ownership.

Always wanted to go up there, but I've never had the opportunity.
The Internet killed gun control.
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We Will Not Comply
They can’t stop the Signal
"The universe did never make sense; I suspect it was built on government contract."
-Robert Heinlein

"Affordability
Suitability (.22LR for squirrels, bigger .22s for long range little things, and big-bore for legal hunting reasons, etc)
Ammunition supply-chain (6.5x55 Swede and .303 British, although available, isn't exactly everywhere)
If it's ugly, uncomfortable, and can't shoot straight, but it accomplishes the above, then it's either a Mosin or a Hi-Point."
-Hurtful Thoughts on stuff you want in a gun

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Postby The Chuck » Wed Aug 21, 2019 1:18 pm

The Two Jerseys wrote:
Gig em Aggies wrote:Does No Russian fit somewhere in there as well?

Every imported weapon is an AK-47. *nods*


I need to import some K2Cs...
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Postby Telconi » Thu Aug 22, 2019 3:26 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:I've decided I support background checks. It's not that big of an issue, and I think we can arrange for a non-governmental body to have control so the government can't manipulate it.


How is a non-governmental body supposed to run background checks fairly?
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Postby Gig em Aggies » Thu Aug 22, 2019 3:28 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:I've decided I support background checks. It's not that big of an issue, and I think we can arrange for a non-governmental body to have control so the government can't manipulate it.

and what makes you think a NGO will be any better that's like having Walmart or Disney checking your background before shopping or entering DW or DL
“One of the serious problems of planning against Aggie doctrine is that the Aggies do not read their manuals nor do they feel any obligations to follow their doctrine.”
“The reason that the Aggies does so well in wartime, is that war is chaos, and the Aggies practices chaos on a daily basis.”
“If we don’t know what we are doing, the enemy certainly can’t anticipate our future actions!”

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Postby Telconi » Thu Aug 22, 2019 3:29 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Telconi wrote:
How is a non-governmental body supposed to run background checks fairly?

They have access to the information. I just want to prevent lies. So then, we can have our cake and eat it too.


Anyone can access information, the problem comes when you ask them to make a trustworthy and fair assessment of that information.
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PRO:
-Weapons Rights
-Gender Equality
-LGBTQ Rights
-Racial Equality
-Religious Freedom
-Freedom of Speech
-Freedom of Association
-Life
-Limited Government
-Non Interventionism
-Labor Unions
-Environmental Protections
ANTI:
-Racism
-Sexism
-Bigotry In All Forms
-Government Overreach
-Government Surveillance
-Freedom For Security Social Transactions
-Unnecessary Taxes
-Excessively Specific Government Programs
-Foreign Entanglements
-Religious Extremism
-Fascists Masquerading as "Social Justice Warriors"

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Postby Chernoslavia » Thu Aug 22, 2019 3:46 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Telconi wrote:
How is a non-governmental body supposed to run background checks fairly?

They have access to the information. I just want to prevent lies. So then, we can have our cake and eat it too.


The cake is a lie, bud. Should've known that for years.
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