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If my neighbors dog craps on my lawn I have a god-given right to respond with the use of force up to and including recreational nuclear warheads
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Guns are literally the embodiment of all evil ever created by mankind, and when the last gun is finally destroyed the entire world will be at peace
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Postby Free Arabian Nation » Thu Mar 07, 2019 10:53 am

Sicaris wrote:
Free Arabian Nation wrote:Literally every gun has a better reliablity than the Chauchat

Even 600-year-old antique muskets


Actually, there is one single gun that is irreparably significantly worse than the Chauchat.

The Breda Model 30.

Look it up, the thing was complete and utter garbage.

>Italian

Of course it is.
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Postby Gig em Aggies » Thu Mar 07, 2019 1:44 pm

Free Arabian Nation wrote:
Sicaris wrote:
Actually, there is one single gun that is irreparably significantly worse than the Chauchat.

The Breda Model 30.

Look it up, the thing was complete and utter garbage.

>Italian

Of course it is.

well at least the Italians were better at making their own weapons which sucked less then Chinese made weapons
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Postby Sicaris » Thu Mar 07, 2019 3:12 pm

Free Arabian Nation wrote:
Sicaris wrote:
Actually, there is one single gun that is irreparably significantly worse than the Chauchat.

The Breda Model 30.

Look it up, the thing was complete and utter garbage.

>Italian

Of course it is.


No no no, the Beretta Model 38 was good, the Carcano was good, even earlier Italian Stuff was great. Modern Italian Stuff is too. Hell, Italians had one of the best fighters of WW2 in the C.205

Breda’s products are just 90% trash.
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Postby Grinning Dragon » Fri Mar 08, 2019 8:29 am

Big Jim, did you see this one?
TX SB378: Relating to prohibiting public funds from being used to enforce certain federal or international laws regulating firearms, firearm accessories, and firearm ammunition within the State of Texas. so basically creating a firearm sanctuary state based on the well established anti-commandeering doctrine set by 5 US supreme court rulings dating back to 1842, Printz v. U.S. serves as the cornerstone
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Postby Sicaris » Fri Mar 08, 2019 8:34 am

Grinning Dragon wrote:Big Jim, did you see this one?
TX SB378: Relating to prohibiting public funds from being used to enforce certain federal or international laws regulating firearms, firearm accessories, and firearm ammunition within the State of Texas. so basically creating a firearm sanctuary state based on the well established anti-commandeering doctrine set by 5 US supreme court rulings dating back to 1842, Printz v. U.S. serves as the cornerstone


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Postby Gig em Aggies » Fri Mar 08, 2019 12:25 pm

Grinning Dragon wrote:Big Jim, did you see this one?
TX SB378: Relating to prohibiting public funds from being used to enforce certain federal or international laws regulating firearms, firearm accessories, and firearm ammunition within the State of Texas. so basically creating a firearm sanctuary state based on the well established anti-commandeering doctrine set by 5 US supreme court rulings dating back to 1842, Printz v. U.S. serves as the cornerstone

https://youtu.be/P3ALwKeSEYs
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Postby Hurtful Thoughts » Fri Mar 08, 2019 3:27 pm

Gig em Aggies wrote:
Pax Nerdvana wrote:This is what will happen if any of these laws get passsed. People will make their own firearms. On a side note, that thing looks pretty cool.

I bet it has worse reliablity then the Chauchat.

Funny you should mention that.

Turns out the M1918 BAR objectively ranks the same as the Chauchat.
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Postby Gig em Aggies » Sat Mar 09, 2019 12:51 pm

Hurtful Thoughts wrote:
Gig em Aggies wrote:I bet it has worse reliablity then the Chauchat.

Funny you should mention that.

Turns out the M1918 BAR objectively ranks the same as the Chauchat.

well the BAR killed more Nazis then the Chauchat and it was idolized in the 1920's era with Bonnie and Clyde. I think the police would have laughed them out of town and banks and others would have said "Isn't that a childs toy" if they ever used the Chauchat
“One of the serious problems of planning against Aggie doctrine is that the Aggies do not read their manuals nor do they feel any obligations to follow their doctrine.”
“The reason that the Aggies does so well in wartime, is that war is chaos, and the Aggies practices chaos on a daily basis.”
“If we don’t know what we are doing, the enemy certainly can’t anticipate our future actions!”

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Postby Grinning Dragon » Sat Mar 09, 2019 3:54 pm

Sigh! I get back from a nice day of run n gun type training, get showered as we are going to go see that movie Capt. Marvel at 1900hrs, decided to peruse the interwebs, and run across this shit in FloriDUH~ SB 1310: Minors Posting Firearms on Social Media
Minors Posting Firearms on Social Media; Prohibiting the posting or publishing of a picture of a firearm, BB gun, air or gas-operated gun, or device displayed to resemble a firearm to social media by a minor; prohibiting storing a firearm in such a way that a minor obtains access to it without permission and posts a picture of it on social media; authorizing warrantless arrest when a law enforcement officer has probable cause to believe that a minor has violated a specified provision, etc.


Just what in the flying fuck is this shit?!? :rofl: Holy shit folks, we have reached peak sand in vagina syndrome. Let's criminalize the 1st Amendment now, 'cause all of that sand in their cunts is obviously rubbing them raw.

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Postby Gig em Aggies » Sat Mar 09, 2019 4:06 pm

Grinning Dragon wrote:Sigh! I get back from a nice day of run n gun type training, get showered as we are going to go see that movie Capt. Marvel at 1900hrs, decided to peruse the interwebs, and run across this shit in FloriDUH~ SB 1310: Minors Posting Firearms on Social Media
Minors Posting Firearms on Social Media; Prohibiting the posting or publishing of a picture of a firearm, BB gun, air or gas-operated gun, or device displayed to resemble a firearm to social media by a minor; prohibiting storing a firearm in such a way that a minor obtains access to it without permission and posts a picture of it on social media; authorizing warrantless arrest when a law enforcement officer has probable cause to believe that a minor has violated a specified provision, etc.


Just what in the flying fuck is this shit?!? :rofl: Holy shit folks, we have reached peak sand in vagina syndrome. Let's criminalize the 1st Amendment now, 'cause all of that sand in their cunts is obviously rubbing them raw.

Ahh 1984 here we come. You know what I saw we cast California and Florida out into the Seven Seas California can be another pacific island nation and Florida can be another Caribbean nation or just give it to Cuba.
“One of the serious problems of planning against Aggie doctrine is that the Aggies do not read their manuals nor do they feel any obligations to follow their doctrine.”
“The reason that the Aggies does so well in wartime, is that war is chaos, and the Aggies practices chaos on a daily basis.”
“If we don’t know what we are doing, the enemy certainly can’t anticipate our future actions!”

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Postby Grinning Dragon » Sat Mar 09, 2019 4:12 pm

Gig em Aggies wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote:Sigh! I get back from a nice day of run n gun type training, get showered as we are going to go see that movie Capt. Marvel at 1900hrs, decided to peruse the interwebs, and run across this shit in FloriDUH~ SB 1310: Minors Posting Firearms on Social Media


Just what in the flying fuck is this shit?!? :rofl: Holy shit folks, we have reached peak sand in vagina syndrome. Let's criminalize the 1st Amendment now, 'cause all of that sand in their cunts is obviously rubbing them raw.

Ahh 1984 here we come. You know what I saw we cast California and Florida out into the Seven Seas California can be another pacific island nation and Florida can be another Caribbean nation or just give it to Cuba.


I would suspect if that were an option those two would still find away to infect their vacuous brain dead ways upon the rest of the nation.

What I get from the tone of this bullshit bill, is it really wants to make it seem it is unacceptable for minors to be around firearms and or their use.

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Postby Gig em Aggies » Sat Mar 09, 2019 4:29 pm

Grinning Dragon wrote:
Gig em Aggies wrote:Ahh 1984 here we come. You know what I saw we cast California and Florida out into the Seven Seas California can be another pacific island nation and Florida can be another Caribbean nation or just give it to Cuba.


I would suspect if that were an option those two would still find away to infect their vacuous brain dead ways upon the rest of the nation.

What I get from the tone of this bullshit bill, is it really wants to make it seem it is unacceptable for minors to be around firearms and or their use.

Hold on …….. I got an idea let this pass but with one tweak make it legal for any minor to post a photo of weapons on social media in a non-threatening manner except for Fortnite and Day'z, PUBG, Anthem etc.... :twisted:
“One of the serious problems of planning against Aggie doctrine is that the Aggies do not read their manuals nor do they feel any obligations to follow their doctrine.”
“The reason that the Aggies does so well in wartime, is that war is chaos, and the Aggies practices chaos on a daily basis.”
“If we don’t know what we are doing, the enemy certainly can’t anticipate our future actions!”

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Postby Chernoslavia » Sat Mar 09, 2019 6:01 pm

Gig em Aggies wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote:Sigh! I get back from a nice day of run n gun type training, get showered as we are going to go see that movie Capt. Marvel at 1900hrs, decided to peruse the interwebs, and run across this shit in FloriDUH~ SB 1310: Minors Posting Firearms on Social Media


Just what in the flying fuck is this shit?!? :rofl: Holy shit folks, we have reached peak sand in vagina syndrome. Let's criminalize the 1st Amendment now, 'cause all of that sand in their cunts is obviously rubbing them raw.

Ahh 1984 here we come. You know what I saw we cast California and Florida out into the Seven Seas California can be another pacific island nation and Florida can be another Caribbean nation or just give it to Cuba.


Wait till I hop out, dammit. :p
What would things have been like if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive? Or if during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? The Organs would quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!

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Postby Big Jim P » Sun Mar 10, 2019 1:58 am

Grinning Dragon wrote:Big Jim, did you see this one?
TX SB378: Relating to prohibiting public funds from being used to enforce certain federal or international laws regulating firearms, firearm accessories, and firearm ammunition within the State of Texas. so basically creating a firearm sanctuary state based on the well established anti-commandeering doctrine set by 5 US supreme court rulings dating back to 1842, Printz v. U.S. serves as the cornerstone


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Postby Pax Nerdvana » Mon Mar 11, 2019 6:31 am

Grinning Dragon wrote:Sigh! I get back from a nice day of run n gun type training, get showered as we are going to go see that movie Capt. Marvel at 1900hrs, decided to peruse the interwebs, and run across this shit in FloriDUH~ SB 1310: Minors Posting Firearms on Social Media
Minors Posting Firearms on Social Media; Prohibiting the posting or publishing of a picture of a firearm, BB gun, air or gas-operated gun, or device displayed to resemble a firearm to social media by a minor; prohibiting storing a firearm in such a way that a minor obtains access to it without permission and posts a picture of it on social media; authorizing warrantless arrest when a law enforcement officer has probable cause to believe that a minor has violated a specified provision, etc.


Just what in the flying fuck is this shit?!? :rofl: Holy shit folks, we have reached peak sand in vagina syndrome. Let's criminalize the 1st Amendment now, 'cause all of that sand in their cunts is obviously rubbing them raw.

That's an unconstitutional piece of crap! Let's hope it gets shot down.
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Postby Sicaris » Mon Mar 11, 2019 6:33 am

Grinning Dragon wrote:Sigh! I get back from a nice day of run n gun type training, get showered as we are going to go see that movie Capt. Marvel at 1900hrs, decided to peruse the interwebs, and run across this shit in FloriDUH~ SB 1310: Minors Posting Firearms on Social Media
Minors Posting Firearms on Social Media; Prohibiting the posting or publishing of a picture of a firearm, BB gun, air or gas-operated gun, or device displayed to resemble a firearm to social media by a minor; prohibiting storing a firearm in such a way that a minor obtains access to it without permission and posts a picture of it on social media; authorizing warrantless arrest when a law enforcement officer has probable cause to believe that a minor has violated a specified provision, etc.


Just what in the flying fuck is this shit?!? :rofl: Holy shit folks, we have reached peak sand in vagina syndrome. Let's criminalize the 1st Amendment now, 'cause all of that sand in their cunts is obviously rubbing them raw.


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Postby Gig em Aggies » Mon Mar 11, 2019 10:54 am

Pax Nerdvana wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote:Sigh! I get back from a nice day of run n gun type training, get showered as we are going to go see that movie Capt. Marvel at 1900hrs, decided to peruse the interwebs, and run across this shit in FloriDUH~ SB 1310: Minors Posting Firearms on Social Media


Just what in the flying fuck is this shit?!? :rofl: Holy shit folks, we have reached peak sand in vagina syndrome. Let's criminalize the 1st Amendment now, 'cause all of that sand in their cunts is obviously rubbing them raw.

That's an unconstitutional piece of crap! Let's hope it gets shot down.

Whelp looks like the movies will have to wait I got some shooting to do https://youtu.be/7p4zafXsLSE
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Postby Licana » Tue Mar 12, 2019 2:50 pm

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Licana wrote:lolz

:rofl: [BugBunny]What a maroon.[/BugsBunny]
Does this dumb cunt even PLCAA?
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Postby Etats confederes d Amerique » Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:14 pm

Grinning Dragon wrote:
Licana wrote:lolz

:rofl: [BugBunny]What a maroon.[/BugsBunny]
Does this dumb cunt even PLCAA?

you know what id like the GOP candidates to fine any company or states 1 million dollars every time companies or states like California come up with stupid laws infringing upon Constitutional rights. or we could go further 1 million dollars per person for every week a homeless person doesn't have a home. then then maybe they'll see how stupid that comment was. he might as well be the Asian version of AOC

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Postby Grinning Dragon » Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:18 pm

Etats confederes d Amerique wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote: :rofl: [BugBunny]What a maroon.[/BugsBunny]
Does this dumb cunt even PLCAA?

you know what id like the GOP candidates to fine any company or states 1 million dollars every time companies or states like California come up with stupid laws infringing upon Constitutional rights. or we could go further 1 million dollars per person for every week a homeless person doesn't have a home. then then maybe they'll see how stupid that comment was. he might as well be the Asian version of AOC

Hmm, I like the "fine those who come up with stupid unconstitutional laws".
AOC is the epitome of an ignorant cunt, might be a tough act to follow for Mr. Yang but he may be catching up.
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Postby Chernoslavia » Tue Mar 12, 2019 5:47 pm

Grinning Dragon wrote:Sigh! I get back from a nice day of run n gun type training, get showered as we are going to go see that movie Capt. Marvel at 1900hrs, decided to peruse the interwebs, and run across this shit in FloriDUH~ SB 1310: Minors Posting Firearms on Social Media
Minors Posting Firearms on Social Media; Prohibiting the posting or publishing of a picture of a firearm, BB gun, air or gas-operated gun, or device displayed to resemble a firearm to social media by a minor; prohibiting storing a firearm in such a way that a minor obtains access to it without permission and posts a picture of it on social media; authorizing warrantless arrest when a law enforcement officer has probable cause to believe that a minor has violated a specified provision, etc.


Just what in the flying fuck is this shit?!? :rofl: Holy shit folks, we have reached peak sand in vagina syndrome. Let's criminalize the 1st Amendment now, 'cause all of that sand in their cunts is obviously rubbing them raw.


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What would things have been like if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive? Or if during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? The Organs would quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!

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Postby Grinning Dragon » Wed Mar 13, 2019 8:30 am

If you live in PA, you may want to start flooding their email boxes and light up the phone lines and get this unconstitutional bill killed.
House Bill 768
Part of the registration process would include filling out an application that included:

• Name, age, sex and date of birth
• Personal and business addresses
• Telephone number
• Social security number
• Citizenship status
• Make, model, caliber/gauge, type and serial number of each firearm
• Two photographs taken within 30 days immediately prior to the date of filing the application equivalent to passport size showing the full face, head and shoulders of the applicant in a clear and distinguishing manner
• Fingerprints


Let's check out the carve out:
(1) Firearms owned or under the direct control or custody of a Federal, State or local governmental authority maintained in the course of its official duties.

2) Duty-related firearms owned and possessed by law enforcement officers who are not residents of this Commonwealth.

(3) Duty-related firearms owned and possessed by corrections officers who are not residents of this Commonwealth.

(4) Firearms owned, manufactured or processed by licensed manufacturers of firearms, bulk transporters or licensed sellers of firearms at wholesale or retail, provided that such persons have all licenses required by law.

(5) A nonresident of this Commonwealth participating in a lawful recreational firearm-related activity in this Commonwealth, or on the way to or from the firearm-related activity in another jurisdiction, provided that the possession or control of the firearm is lawful in the jurisdiction in which the individual resides and that the weapon is either:

(i) Broken down in a nonfunctioning state.

(ii) Unloaded and enclosed in a case, firearmcarrying box, shipping box or other container.

(6) Private security personnel who possess or control a firearm or ammunition within this Commonwealth. Firearms under this paragraph shall be owned and maintained by the security firm employing the security personnel and shall be registered by the security firm in accordance with this section.

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Postby Hammer Britannia » Wed Mar 13, 2019 8:32 am

Licana wrote:lolz

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Postby Pax Nerdvana » Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:04 am

Grinning Dragon wrote:If you live in PA, you may want to start flooding their email boxes and light up the phone lines and get this unconstitutional bill killed.
House Bill 768
Part of the registration process would include filling out an application that included:

• Name, age, sex and date of birth
• Personal and business addresses
• Telephone number
• Social security number
• Citizenship status
• Make, model, caliber/gauge, type and serial number of each firearm
• Two photographs taken within 30 days immediately prior to the date of filing the application equivalent to passport size showing the full face, head and shoulders of the applicant in a clear and distinguishing manner
• Fingerprints


Let's check out the carve out:
(1) Firearms owned or under the direct control or custody of a Federal, State or local governmental authority maintained in the course of its official duties.

2) Duty-related firearms owned and possessed by law enforcement officers who are not residents of this Commonwealth.

(3) Duty-related firearms owned and possessed by corrections officers who are not residents of this Commonwealth.

(4) Firearms owned, manufactured or processed by licensed manufacturers of firearms, bulk transporters or licensed sellers of firearms at wholesale or retail, provided that such persons have all licenses required by law.

(5) A nonresident of this Commonwealth participating in a lawful recreational firearm-related activity in this Commonwealth, or on the way to or from the firearm-related activity in another jurisdiction, provided that the possession or control of the firearm is lawful in the jurisdiction in which the individual resides and that the weapon is either:

(i) Broken down in a nonfunctioning state.

(ii) Unloaded and enclosed in a case, firearmcarrying box, shipping box or other container.

(6) Private security personnel who possess or control a firearm or ammunition within this Commonwealth. Firearms under this paragraph shall be owned and maintained by the security firm employing the security personnel and shall be registered by the security firm in accordance with this section.

Are they seriously considering this? That goes against the very grain of the Constitution. Is it talking about all guns, or just semi-autos?
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