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If my neighbors dog craps on my lawn I have a god-given right to respond with the use of force up to and including recreational nuclear warheads
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50%
Guns are literally the embodiment of all evil ever created by mankind, and when the last gun is finally destroyed the entire world will be at peace
210
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I'm lame and choose not to use a poll with wild stereotypes about both sides because I'm lame
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Total votes : 1277

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Ors Might
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Postby Ors Might » Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:48 pm

Kernen wrote:
Traceynia wrote:
I mean if a blanket ban on guns is the easiest way to get the best policy outcome of the end of mass shootings then I'd support it. I don't really understand the emotional attachment to guns some people seem to have.


The same reason people form attachments to their cars or computers or stuffed animals. Things that make us happy or benefit us are valued, and humans tend to form emotional reactions to things they value. Simply shit right there.

I wonder if they’d apply the same logic to computers. Can’t have abusive behavior on the internet if there’s no internet.
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Sat Apr 14, 2018 8:03 pm

Ors Might wrote:
Kernen wrote:
The same reason people form attachments to their cars or computers or stuffed animals. Things that make us happy or benefit us are valued, and humans tend to form emotional reactions to things they value. Simply shit right there.

I wonder if they’d apply the same logic to computers. Can’t have abusive behavior on the internet if there’s no internet.

You know the rules, anything that's not a gun can't be banned because society can't function without it.
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Postby Gig em Aggies » Sat Apr 14, 2018 8:15 pm

The Two Jerseys wrote:
Ors Might wrote:I wonder if they’d apply the same logic to computers. Can’t have abusive behavior on the internet if there’s no internet.

You know the rules, anything that's not a gun can't be banned because society can't function without it.

I found the gun grabbers favorite word Loophole --> https://media1.s-nbcnews.com/i/MSNBC/Co ... 0x1080.jpg
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Postby Ors Might » Sat Apr 14, 2018 8:28 pm

The Two Jerseys wrote:
Ors Might wrote:I wonder if they’d apply the same logic to computers. Can’t have abusive behavior on the internet if there’s no internet.

You know the rules, anything that's not a gun can't be banned because society can't function without it.

Silly me. I forgot that guns have no purpose for anyone besides mass murderers and have no value whatsoever.
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Postby Big Jim P » Sat Apr 14, 2018 8:32 pm

Ors Might wrote:
The Two Jerseys wrote:You know the rules, anything that's not a gun can't be banned because society can't function without it.

Silly me. I forgot that guns have no purpose for anyone besides mass murderers and have no value whatsoever.


In fact, the guns are the murderers, and the shooters are mere trigger activation accessories. ;)
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Sat Apr 14, 2018 9:02 pm

Big Jim P wrote:
Ors Might wrote:Silly me. I forgot that guns have no purpose for anyone besides mass murderers and have no value whatsoever.


In fact, the guns are the murderers, and the shooters are mere trigger activation accessories. ;)

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Postby Kramanica » Sat Apr 14, 2018 9:17 pm

The Two Jerseys wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
In fact, the guns are the murderers, and the shooters are mere trigger activation accessories. ;)

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Postby Albrenia » Sat Apr 14, 2018 9:20 pm

This thread sure has a lot of jokes and shitposts in it. Stranger still, I find I approve.

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Postby Len Hyet » Sun Apr 15, 2018 5:01 am

The Two Jerseys wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
In fact, the guns are the murderers, and the shooters are mere trigger activation accessories. ;)

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Albrenia wrote:This thread sure has a lot of jokes and shitposts in it. Stranger still, I find I approve.


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Postby Len Hyet » Sun Apr 15, 2018 5:28 am

East Ustya wrote:
Len Hyet wrote:You not liking the answers doesn't mean they're not answers.

So, again. Here. Do a little research for your story. It'll be better for it.

I just do not see the logic, that is all.


Okay. So.

Reason number 1. Self defense. A gun is the preeminent tool for defending yourself, your home, and your family. There is no better tool in the world. It negates physical advantages, and makes it so that this woman was able to defend herself instead of being turned into chunky salsa.

Reason number 2. Providing for oneself and one's family. A $150 rifle and $20 of ammunition can put meat on the table for a family of four for a year. The best part is, that the year after that, it only costs $20.

Reason number 3. Armed resistance to tyranny. I don't think I have to explain this one, it's pretty self-explanatory.
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Postby East Ustya » Sun Apr 15, 2018 5:32 am

I am writing a story, and I need some short pro gun arguments, and I can not think of a reason for civilians having them.
Not even kidding..... :oops:
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Postby Len Hyet » Sun Apr 15, 2018 5:32 am

East Ustya wrote:I am writing a story, and I need some short pro gun arguments, and I can not think of a reason for civilians having them.
Not even kidding..... :oops:
Len Hyet wrote:
East Ustya wrote:I just do not see the logic, that is all.


Okay. So.

Reason number 1. Self defense. A gun is the preeminent tool for defending yourself, your home, and your family. There is no better tool in the world. It negates physical advantages, and makes it so that this woman was able to defend herself instead of being turned into chunky salsa.

Reason number 2. Providing for oneself and one's family. A $150 rifle and $20 of ammunition can put meat on the table for a family of four for a year. The best part is, that the year after that, it only costs $20.

Reason number 3. Armed resistance to tyranny. I don't think I have to explain this one, it's pretty self-explanatory.
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Sun Apr 15, 2018 5:35 am

East Ustya wrote:I am writing a story, and I need some short pro gun arguments, and I can not think of a reason for civilians having them.
Not even kidding..... :oops:

To overthrow the statetm.
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Postby East Ustya » Sun Apr 15, 2018 5:53 am

Len Hyet wrote:
East Ustya wrote:I am writing a story, and I need some short pro gun arguments, and I can not think of a reason for civilians having them.
Not even kidding..... :oops:
Len Hyet wrote:
Okay. So.

Reason number 1. Self defense. A gun is the preeminent tool for defending yourself, your home, and your family. There is no better tool in the world. It negates physical advantages, and makes it so that this woman was able to defend herself instead of being turned into chunky salsa.

Reason number 2. Providing for oneself and one's family. A $150 rifle and $20 of ammunition can put meat on the table for a family of four for a year. The best part is, that the year after that, it only costs $20.

Reason number 3. Armed resistance to tyranny. I don't think I have to explain this one, it's pretty self-explanatory.

That will do, thanks. :)
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East Ustya
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Postby East Ustya » Sun Apr 15, 2018 5:53 am

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
East Ustya wrote:I am writing a story, and I need some short pro gun arguments, and I can not think of a reason for civilians having them.
Not even kidding..... :oops:

To overthrow the statetm.

With only small arms?
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Sun Apr 15, 2018 6:25 am

East Ustya wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:To overthrow the statetm.

With only small arms?

All the more reason for civilians to own big arms.
ywn be as good as this video
Gacha
Trashing other people's waifus
Anti-NN
EA
Douche flutes
Zimbabwe
Putting the toilet paper roll the wrong way
Every single square inch of Asia
Lewding Earth-chan
Pollution
4Chan in all its glory and all its horror
Playing the little Switch controller handheld thing in public
Treading on me
Socialism, Communism, Anarchism, and all their cousins and sisters and brothers and wife's sons
Alternate Universe 40K
Nightcore
Comcast
Zimbabwe
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Postby East Ustya » Sun Apr 15, 2018 6:27 am

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
East Ustya wrote:With only small arms?

All the more reason for civilians to own big arms.

Why would you even want to overthrow the state?
In what scenario would that be needed.

I have all the rest. :)
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Sun Apr 15, 2018 6:28 am

East Ustya wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:All the more reason for civilians to own big arms.

Why would you even want to overthrow the state?
In what scenario would that be needed.

I have all the rest. :)

What's your political ideology? Socialist?
ywn be as good as this video
Gacha
Trashing other people's waifus
Anti-NN
EA
Douche flutes
Zimbabwe
Putting the toilet paper roll the wrong way
Every single square inch of Asia
Lewding Earth-chan
Pollution
4Chan in all its glory and all its horror
Playing the little Switch controller handheld thing in public
Treading on me
Socialism, Communism, Anarchism, and all their cousins and sisters and brothers and wife's sons
Alternate Universe 40K
Nightcore
Comcast
Zimbabwe
Believing the Ottomans were the third Roman Empire
Parodies of the Gadsden flag
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East Ustya
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Postby East Ustya » Sun Apr 15, 2018 6:30 am

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
East Ustya wrote:Why would you even want to overthrow the state?
In what scenario would that be needed.

I have all the rest. :)

What's your political ideology? Socialist?

Yes, why are you asking?

As a person I am, but as a writer i really do not.
as a writer I NEED it for my story, so my anti leftist character is more lifelike.
:)
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Sun Apr 15, 2018 6:31 am

East Ustya wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:What's your political ideology? Socialist?

Yes, why are you asking?

As a person I am, but as a writer i really do not.
as a writer I NEED it for my story, so my anti leftist character is more lifelike.
:)

I don't know what story you're writing.
ywn be as good as this video
Gacha
Trashing other people's waifus
Anti-NN
EA
Douche flutes
Zimbabwe
Putting the toilet paper roll the wrong way
Every single square inch of Asia
Lewding Earth-chan
Pollution
4Chan in all its glory and all its horror
Playing the little Switch controller handheld thing in public
Treading on me
Socialism, Communism, Anarchism, and all their cousins and sisters and brothers and wife's sons
Alternate Universe 40K
Nightcore
Comcast
Zimbabwe
Believing the Ottomans were the third Roman Empire
Parodies of the Gadsden flag
The Fate Series
US politics

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East Ustya
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Postby East Ustya » Sun Apr 15, 2018 6:31 am

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
East Ustya wrote:Yes, why are you asking?

As a person I am, but as a writer i really do not.
as a writer I NEED it for my story, so my anti leftist character is more lifelike.
:)

I don't know what story you're writing.

Why does it matter?
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Sun Apr 15, 2018 6:43 am

East Ustya wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:I don't know what story you're writing.

Why does it matter?

Apparently you can't go with standard socialist reasons, so I need to know what your story is about to know what answer you're looking for.

Duh.
ywn be as good as this video
Gacha
Trashing other people's waifus
Anti-NN
EA
Douche flutes
Zimbabwe
Putting the toilet paper roll the wrong way
Every single square inch of Asia
Lewding Earth-chan
Pollution
4Chan in all its glory and all its horror
Playing the little Switch controller handheld thing in public
Treading on me
Socialism, Communism, Anarchism, and all their cousins and sisters and brothers and wife's sons
Alternate Universe 40K
Nightcore
Comcast
Zimbabwe
Believing the Ottomans were the third Roman Empire
Parodies of the Gadsden flag
The Fate Series
US politics

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Postby East Ustya » Sun Apr 15, 2018 6:46 am

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
East Ustya wrote:Why does it matter?

Apparently you can't go with standard socialist reasons, so I need to know what your story is about to know what answer you're looking for.

Duh.

Well ok, now i see.
I am writing a story about a conflict between 3 factions, a communist rebel group, a conservative American Coalition(NATOish) and a Russian coalition.
And ATM i am wotking on part 2, which is viewed from the POV of the western Coalition.
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Postby Wysten » Sun Apr 15, 2018 6:46 am

Len Hyet wrote:
The Two Jerseys wrote:Relevant

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Albrenia wrote:This thread sure has a lot of jokes and shitposts in it. Stranger still, I find I approve.


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