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If my neighbors dog craps on my lawn I have a god-given right to respond with the use of force up to and including recreational nuclear warheads
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Guns are literally the embodiment of all evil ever created by mankind, and when the last gun is finally destroyed the entire world will be at peace
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Postby Gig em Aggies » Sat Mar 02, 2019 4:55 pm

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Big Jim P wrote:Oklahoma just became the 16th Constitutional Carry state. We are slowly but surely coming around. Now if only the Texas lege would get off their asses and pass it here.

:clap: Well done Oklahoma, well done.

hey at least were not California. but I found this nifty thing on wiki https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitutional_carry#/media/File%3ARight_to_Carry%2C_timeline.gif
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Postby Hurtful Thoughts » Sat Mar 02, 2019 10:10 pm

Das Schmutzige Huhn wrote:
Hurtful Thoughts wrote:Best way to control your gun is to grab it by the balls?

no the best way to control your gun is a firm grip on the pistol grip and fore grip as well as not going full Rambo.

Who doesn't just spray from the hip from time to time?

I suppose it could be done from a sitting, kneeling, prone, or even benchrest position for more control.
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Sat Mar 02, 2019 10:30 pm

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Das Schmutzige Huhn wrote:no the best way to control your gun is a firm grip on the pistol grip and fore grip as well as not going full Rambo.

Who doesn't just spray from the hip from time to time?

It's the ammosexual version of those rooms where you smash everything inside to relieve stress.
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Postby Big Jim P » Sat Mar 02, 2019 10:55 pm

The Two Jerseys wrote:
Hurtful Thoughts wrote:Who doesn't just spray from the hip from time to time?

It's the ammosexual version of those rooms where you smash everything inside to relieve stress.


I still prefer rifle shouldered, sights aligned and on target. Then I do a mag dump, blasting the bejesus out of my target. :twisted:
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Postby Gun Manufacturers » Sat Mar 02, 2019 11:05 pm

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Probably single color, either blue or white. And truck nuts are idiotic IMO, so I wouldn't put them on my firearms, either.

What about fuzzy dice for your gun?


Seems like a fire hazard.
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Postby Gig em Aggies » Sun Mar 03, 2019 12:59 pm

Gun Manufacturers wrote:
The Two Jerseys wrote:What about fuzzy dice for your gun?


Seems like a fire hazard.

there is always fire proof fuzzy dice. but a better way then fussy dice is to paint your rifle pink white and rainbow colors with a dash of red and black then put this as a decal
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on the side. that my freind is a Real mans Gun plus think of how many Hot ladies will adore you with that in your hand eh eh?
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Postby Germanic Templars » Sun Mar 03, 2019 4:21 pm

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Big Jim P wrote:Oklahoma just became the 16th Constitutional Carry state. We are slowly but surely coming around. Now if only the Texas lege would get off their asses and pass it here.

:clap: Well done Oklahoma, well done.

Still waiting on Ohio to become constitutional carry state too.

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Postby Gig em Aggies » Sun Mar 03, 2019 6:25 pm

West Leas Oros 2 wrote:

The same Trump who approved the bump stock ban?

Those were dark days my friend very dark days indeed it felt like we had bump stocks but a few days ago but in reality it was eons ..... eons I tell you!
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Postby Telconi » Sun Mar 03, 2019 6:28 pm

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The same Trump who approved the bump stock ban?


That'd be the one
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Postby Gig em Aggies » Sun Mar 03, 2019 6:30 pm

Telconi wrote:
West Leas Oros 2 wrote:The same Trump who approved the bump stock ban?


That'd be the one

You a pirate now Telconi? Because now you get those badass blunderbusses.
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Postby Telconi » Sun Mar 03, 2019 6:33 pm

Gig em Aggies wrote:
Telconi wrote:
That'd be the one

You a pirate now Telconi? Because now you get those badass blunderbusses.


A pirate?
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Postby Gig em Aggies » Sun Mar 03, 2019 9:09 pm

Telconi wrote:
Gig em Aggies wrote:You a pirate now Telconi? Because now you get those badass blunderbusses.


A pirate?


That'd be the one- a phrase spoken by nearly every pirate I've seen.
“One of the serious problems of planning against Aggie doctrine is that the Aggies do not read their manuals nor do they feel any obligations to follow their doctrine.”
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Postby Telconi » Mon Mar 04, 2019 12:07 am

Gig em Aggies wrote:
Telconi wrote:
A pirate?


That'd be the one- a phrase spoken by nearly every pirate I've seen.


Perhaps I am...
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Mon Mar 04, 2019 4:20 am

Telconi wrote:
Gig em Aggies wrote:
That'd be the one- a phrase spoken by nearly every pirate I've seen.


Perhaps I am...

Are you one of those road pirates who harass innocent boat captains traveling on public roads without a drivers license? :p
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Postby Grinning Dragon » Mon Mar 04, 2019 8:18 am

I don't know if you are aware but, bill H.R.1263 - National Firearms Amendments Act of 2019 seeks to reclassify semi-auto firearms that accept a detachable magazine as a NFA item. Introduced by one smegma-stain Rep. Deutch, Theodore E. [D-FL-22]

The Zelman Partisans keyed in on a problem by design in the bill.
(b) Applicability.—Any person who, on the date of the enactment of this Act, lawfully owns or possesses a semiautomatic rifle or shotgun (as defined in section 5845(a) of such Code, as amended by this Act) that has the capacity to accept a detachable ammunition feeding device (as defined in such section) shall, not later than 120 days after the date of enactment of this Act, register the semiautomatic rifle or shotgun in accordance with section 5841 of such Code. Such registration shall become a part of the National Firearms Registration and Transfer Record required to be maintained by such section. The prohibition on possession of an unregistered firearm under section 5861 of such Code shall not apply to possession of such a semiautomatic rifle or shotgun that has the capacity to accept such a detachable ammunition feeding device on any date that is 120 days or less after the enactment of this Act.

“Register.” Not apply to register. You need a tax stamp within 120 days of enactment. No stamp after the magical date and you’re a felon....


It’s currently taking a minimum of 227 days to receive the stamp. That is, it’s taking three months longer than this bill would allow. With existing NFA firearms.

Now throw in Ghu only knows how many millions of newly declared NFA rifles, and the waiting period for approval is going to shoot up into the decades at best.

There are 175,977 transferable machineguns registered now, and it takes better than 7 months to get a stamp. Throw in an estimated 16 million semiauto AR- and AK-pattern rifles into the mix and you’ll have 92 times as many for 92 times the wait, 644 months (I rounded). It’ll take almost 54 years to get your stamp.


Might want to keep an eye on this one. I hope it doesn't make it out of committee, bad bill is bad and teddy should feel bad for being a douchbag cunt.

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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Mon Mar 04, 2019 8:27 am

Grinning Dragon wrote:I don't know if you are aware but, bill H.R.1263 - National Firearms Amendments Act of 2019 seeks to reclassify semi-auto firearms that accept a detachable magazine as a NFA item. Introduced by one smegma-stain Rep. Deutch, Theodore E. [D-FL-22]

The Zelman Partisans keyed in on a problem by design in the bill.
(b) Applicability.—Any person who, on the date of the enactment of this Act, lawfully owns or possesses a semiautomatic rifle or shotgun (as defined in section 5845(a) of such Code, as amended by this Act) that has the capacity to accept a detachable ammunition feeding device (as defined in such section) shall, not later than 120 days after the date of enactment of this Act, register the semiautomatic rifle or shotgun in accordance with section 5841 of such Code. Such registration shall become a part of the National Firearms Registration and Transfer Record required to be maintained by such section. The prohibition on possession of an unregistered firearm under section 5861 of such Code shall not apply to possession of such a semiautomatic rifle or shotgun that has the capacity to accept such a detachable ammunition feeding device on any date that is 120 days or less after the enactment of this Act.

“Register.” Not apply to register. You need a tax stamp within 120 days of enactment. No stamp after the magical date and you’re a felon....


It’s currently taking a minimum of 227 days to receive the stamp. That is, it’s taking three months longer than this bill would allow. With existing NFA firearms.

Now throw in Ghu only knows how many millions of newly declared NFA rifles, and the waiting period for approval is going to shoot up into the decades at best.

There are 175,977 transferable machineguns registered now, and it takes better than 7 months to get a stamp. Throw in an estimated 16 million semiauto AR- and AK-pattern rifles into the mix and you’ll have 92 times as many for 92 times the wait, 644 months (I rounded). It’ll take almost 54 years to get your stamp.


Might want to keep an eye on this one. I hope it doesn't make it out of committee, bad bill is bad and teddy should feel bad for being a douchbag cunt.


It's almost like the people who write these things have no fucking clue what they are doing...

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Postby Pax Nerdvana » Mon Mar 04, 2019 8:45 am

Paddy O Fernature wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote:I don't know if you are aware but, bill H.R.1263 - National Firearms Amendments Act of 2019 seeks to reclassify semi-auto firearms that accept a detachable magazine as a NFA item. Introduced by one smegma-stain Rep. Deutch, Theodore E. [D-FL-22]

The Zelman Partisans keyed in on a problem by design in the bill.




Might want to keep an eye on this one. I hope it doesn't make it out of committee, bad bill is bad and teddy should feel bad for being a douchbag cunt.


It's almost like the people who write these things have no fucking clue what they are doing...

It's like they don't know the differences between a SEMI-auto and an AUTOMATIC.
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Paddy O Fernature wrote:
It's almost like the people who write these things have no fucking clue what they are doing...

It's like they don't know the differences between a SEMI-auto and an AUTOMATIC.


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Grinning Dragon wrote:I don't know if you are aware but, bill H.R.1263 - National Firearms Amendments Act of 2019 seeks to reclassify semi-auto firearms that accept a detachable magazine as a NFA item. Introduced by one smegma-stain Rep. Deutch, Theodore E. [D-FL-22]

The Zelman Partisans keyed in on a problem by design in the bill.
(b) Applicability.—Any person who, on the date of the enactment of this Act, lawfully owns or possesses a semiautomatic rifle or shotgun (as defined in section 5845(a) of such Code, as amended by this Act) that has the capacity to accept a detachable ammunition feeding device (as defined in such section) shall, not later than 120 days after the date of enactment of this Act, register the semiautomatic rifle or shotgun in accordance with section 5841 of such Code. Such registration shall become a part of the National Firearms Registration and Transfer Record required to be maintained by such section. The prohibition on possession of an unregistered firearm under section 5861 of such Code shall not apply to possession of such a semiautomatic rifle or shotgun that has the capacity to accept such a detachable ammunition feeding device on any date that is 120 days or less after the enactment of this Act.

“Register.” Not apply to register. You need a tax stamp within 120 days of enactment. No stamp after the magical date and you’re a felon....


It’s currently taking a minimum of 227 days to receive the stamp. That is, it’s taking three months longer than this bill would allow. With existing NFA firearms.

Now throw in Ghu only knows how many millions of newly declared NFA rifles, and the waiting period for approval is going to shoot up into the decades at best.

There are 175,977 transferable machineguns registered now, and it takes better than 7 months to get a stamp. Throw in an estimated 16 million semiauto AR- and AK-pattern rifles into the mix and you’ll have 92 times as many for 92 times the wait, 644 months (I rounded). It’ll take almost 54 years to get your stamp.


Might want to keep an eye on this one. I hope it doesn't make it out of committee, bad bill is bad and teddy should feel bad for being a douchbag cunt.


I don’t think they realize not only how stupid the bill is but how hard it would be for them to do that.
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Postby Pax Nerdvana » Mon Mar 04, 2019 11:28 am

Sicaris wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote:I don't know if you are aware but, bill H.R.1263 - National Firearms Amendments Act of 2019 seeks to reclassify semi-auto firearms that accept a detachable magazine as a NFA item. Introduced by one smegma-stain Rep. Deutch, Theodore E. [D-FL-22]

The Zelman Partisans keyed in on a problem by design in the bill.




Might want to keep an eye on this one. I hope it doesn't make it out of committee, bad bill is bad and teddy should feel bad for being a douchbag cunt.


I don’t think they realize not only how stupid the bill is but how hard it would be for them to do that.

That's true. What are they going to do when they realize just how many ARs are in the US?
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Mon Mar 04, 2019 11:32 am

Paddy O Fernature wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote:I don't know if you are aware but, bill H.R.1263 - National Firearms Amendments Act of 2019 seeks to reclassify semi-auto firearms that accept a detachable magazine as a NFA item. Introduced by one smegma-stain Rep. Deutch, Theodore E. [D-FL-22]

The Zelman Partisans keyed in on a problem by design in the bill.




Might want to keep an eye on this one. I hope it doesn't make it out of committee, bad bill is bad and teddy should feel bad for being a douchbag cunt.


It's almost like the people who write these things have no fucking clue what they are doing...

They should be trying to repeal the NFA, not expand it.
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Postby Chernoslavia » Mon Mar 04, 2019 11:33 am

Pax Nerdvana wrote:
Sicaris wrote:
I don’t think they realize not only how stupid the bill is but how hard it would be for them to do that.

That's true. What are they going to do when they realize just how many ARs are in the US?


Most likely not care as they’re not the ones who are going to have to risk their lives kicking people’s doors down.
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Postby Pax Nerdvana » Mon Mar 04, 2019 11:38 am

Chernoslavia wrote:
Pax Nerdvana wrote:That's true. What are they going to do when they realize just how many ARs are in the US?


Most likely not care as they’re not the ones who are going to have to risk their lives kicking people’s doors down.

Yeah, and they won't be paying for it out of pocket.
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Mon Mar 04, 2019 11:39 am

Pax Nerdvana wrote:
Chernoslavia wrote:
Most likely not care as they’re not the ones who are going to have to risk their lives kicking people’s doors down.

Yeah, and they won't be paying for it out of pocket.

At least its passage will be nice and slow so people can resign from the police in time.
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