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Gun Control n Stuff - Only 2 Options Pick Carefully

If my neighbors dog craps on my lawn I have a god-given right to respond with the use of force up to and including recreational nuclear warheads
462
51%
Guns are literally the embodiment of all evil ever created by mankind, and when the last gun is finally destroyed the entire world will be at peace
134
15%
I'm lame and choose not to use a poll with wild stereotypes about both sides because I'm lame
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Total votes : 904

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Postby Fartsniffage » Sun Oct 14, 2018 7:35 pm

Telconi wrote:
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The only reason the British Army uses BFAs is that they won't cycle properly using blanks without. You know that? Right?

And getting "shot" with a blank at close range fucking sucks?


Sure, doesn't change the fact that you don't need to use live capable arms.

Not with a blank gun.


The British Army uses fully live weapons with a BFA. A BFA is just a bit of metal you screw into the muzzle.

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Postby Fartsniffage » Sun Oct 14, 2018 7:36 pm

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You should ask The Two Jerseys about that. He brought it up....

Actually, you're the one who brought up that children can't be trusted with guns because 15-year old you fucked up once...


Not even close to true.

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Postby The Two Jerseys » Sun Oct 14, 2018 7:37 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
The Two Jerseys wrote:Actually, you're the one who brought up that children can't be trusted with guns because 15-year old you fucked up once...


Not even close to true.

Fartsniffage wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Same. I also think trust is more specific to the individual, there was nothing wrong with five year old me operating a firearm, and yet there are grown ass adults I wouldn't trust with one.


I started at age 12. At age 15 I had a negligent discharge while on a range and under command. I was distracted thinking about exams and I fired an aimed round before the order to fire was given.

People fuck up. Children fuck up far more frequently than adults. Their brain doesn't fully link action and consequence. It's why we don't tend to leave children alone without adult supervision.

Go home Fart, you're drunk.
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Postby Telconi » Sun Oct 14, 2018 7:39 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Sure, doesn't change the fact that you don't need to use live capable arms.

Not with a blank gun.


The British Army uses fully live weapons with a BFA. A BFA is just a bit of metal you screw into the muzzle.


I know that, thanks for clarifying, perhaps you'd like to actually address the concept at hand...
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Postby Fartsniffage » Sun Oct 14, 2018 7:41 pm

The Two Jerseys wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
Not even close to true.

Fartsniffage wrote:
I started at age 12. At age 15 I had a negligent discharge while on a range and under command. I was distracted thinking about exams and I fired an aimed round before the order to fire was given.

People fuck up. Children fuck up far more frequently than adults. Their brain doesn't fully link action and consequence. It's why we don't tend to leave children alone without adult supervision.

Go home Fart, you're drunk.



viewtopic.php?p=34757409#p34757409

The whole thing started here. Go home The Two Jerseys, you just have no idea what's happening.

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Postby Fartsniffage » Sun Oct 14, 2018 7:42 pm

Telconi wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
The British Army uses fully live weapons with a BFA. A BFA is just a bit of metal you screw into the muzzle.


I know that, thanks for clarifying, perhaps you'd like to actually address the concept at hand...


So how old do you think children should be allowed to buy firearms at?

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Postby The Two Jerseys » Sun Oct 14, 2018 7:43 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
The Two Jerseys wrote:
Go home Fart, you're drunk.



viewtopic.php?p=34757409#p34757409

The whole thing started here. Go home The Two Jerseys, you just have no idea what's happening.

So you have no actual response then? Good to know.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Sun Oct 14, 2018 7:44 pm

The Two Jerseys wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:

viewtopic.php?p=34757409#p34757409

The whole thing started here. Go home The Two Jerseys, you just have no idea what's happening.

So you have no actual response then? Good to know.


Other than you having no idea what you're talking about, no. Sucks to be you. :)

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Postby Telconi » Sun Oct 14, 2018 7:44 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Telconi wrote:
I know that, thanks for clarifying, perhaps you'd like to actually address the concept at hand...


So how old do you think children should be allowed to buy firearms at?


Eh, fourteen with stipulations, 18 for unrestricted purchase rights.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Sun Oct 14, 2018 7:47 pm

Telconi wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
So how old do you think children should be allowed to buy firearms at?


Eh, fourteen with stipulations, 18 for unrestricted purchase rights.


Even though people at that age don't have a fully developed brain?

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Postby The Two Jerseys » Sun Oct 14, 2018 7:48 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Eh, fourteen with stipulations, 18 for unrestricted purchase rights.


Even though people at that age don't have a fully developed brain?

Neither do those two adults at a Texas gun range...
"The Duke of Texas" is too formal for regular use. Just call me "Your Grace".
"If I would like to watch goodness, sanity, God and logic being fucked I would watch Japanese porn." -Nightkill the Emperor
"This thread makes me wish I was a moron so that I wouldn't have to comprehend how stupid the topic is." -The Empire of Pretantia
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Head of Government: The Rt. Hon. James O'Dell MP, Prime Minister
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Postby Telconi » Sun Oct 14, 2018 7:48 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Eh, fourteen with stipulations, 18 for unrestricted purchase rights.


Even though people at that age don't have a fully developed brain?


Sure, we allow them to operate motor vehicles, seems like a decent enough time to allow them to purchase firearms.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Sun Oct 14, 2018 7:49 pm

The Two Jerseys wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
Even though people at that age don't have a fully developed brain?

Neither do those two adults at a Texas gun range...


Some people are fucking morons. That's not an argument for more people having guns.....

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Postby Fartsniffage » Sun Oct 14, 2018 7:50 pm

Telconi wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
Even though people at that age don't have a fully developed brain?


Sure, we allow them to operate motor vehicles, seems like a decent enough time to allow them to purchase firearms.


Don't young drivers have by far the highest number of accidents?

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Postby The Two Jerseys » Sun Oct 14, 2018 7:50 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
The Two Jerseys wrote:Neither do those two adults at a Texas gun range...


Some people are fucking morons. That's not an argument for more people having guns.....

"15-year old me done fucked up" isn't an argument for fewer people having guns...
"The Duke of Texas" is too formal for regular use. Just call me "Your Grace".
"If I would like to watch goodness, sanity, God and logic being fucked I would watch Japanese porn." -Nightkill the Emperor
"This thread makes me wish I was a moron so that I wouldn't have to comprehend how stupid the topic is." -The Empire of Pretantia
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Ambassador to the World Assembly: HE Sir John Ross "J.R." Ewing II, Bt.
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Postby Telconi » Sun Oct 14, 2018 7:50 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
The Two Jerseys wrote:Neither do those two adults at a Texas gun range...


Some people are fucking morons. That's not an argument for more people having guns.....


Nor is it an argument against it.
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Postby Telconi » Sun Oct 14, 2018 7:50 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Sure, we allow them to operate motor vehicles, seems like a decent enough time to allow them to purchase firearms.


Don't young drivers have by far the highest number of accidents?


Yes.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Sun Oct 14, 2018 7:51 pm

Telconi wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
Don't young drivers have by far the highest number of accidents?


Yes.


Do you know why?

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Postby Telconi » Sun Oct 14, 2018 7:53 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Yes.


Do you know why?


Yes.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Sun Oct 14, 2018 7:54 pm

Telconi wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
Do you know why?


Yes.


Why?

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Postby Telconi » Sun Oct 14, 2018 7:55 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Yes.


Why?


less developed capacity for judgement, less honed reflexes.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Sun Oct 14, 2018 7:57 pm

Telconi wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
Why?


less developed capacity for judgement, less honed reflexes.


My point made.

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Postby Telconi » Sun Oct 14, 2018 8:00 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Telconi wrote:
less developed capacity for judgement, less honed reflexes.


My point made.


Not sure what point you think was made here...
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Sun Oct 14, 2018 8:05 pm

Telconi wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
My point made.


Not sure what point you think was made here...

That it's OK to point a gun at someone's head if you're 18 or over?
"The Duke of Texas" is too formal for regular use. Just call me "Your Grace".
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Postby Telconi » Sun Oct 14, 2018 8:08 pm

The Two Jerseys wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Not sure what point you think was made here...

That it's OK to point a gun at someone's head if you're 18 or over?


I guess, I don't know, pretty sure at this point this is just drunken Fart rambling wit out a coherent position.
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-Bigotry In All Forms
-Government Overreach
-Government Surveillance
-Freedom For Security Social Transactions
-Unnecessary Taxes
-Excessively Specific Government Programs
-Foreign Entanglements
-Religious Extremism
-Fascists Masquerading as "Social Justice Warriors"

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