White? Why not pay more?

[Liriena]

I guess a point could be made with a sorta “shoes on the other foot” type deal, although all it’s done is start a shit show.

I feel like the "shoes on the other foot" thing is not going to help anyone and is vaguely racist. At least this was optional.

Yeah, this thread demonstrated the problem with trying to highlight racial inequality with even voluntary experiments that directly, personally engage white people: white fragility. This experiment was meant to bring attention to what is clearly a serious racial disparity with serious consequences... but instead of that we have to listen to a lot of fellow white people shout in fear of "reverse discrimination".

[Ifreann]

Sounds like an exceedingly good way to piss off potential customers through racism.

Telling people about racism is the real racism.

[Liriena]

Sounds like an exceedingly good way to piss off potential customers through racism.

Telling people about racism is the real racism.

This does serve as a pretty good example of white fragility, though. Any possibility of a deeper conversation about the vast income inequality between races in that area is shut down entirely because the personal offense of being offered the voluntary option of paying more takes precedent.

[The Xenopolis Confederation]

I feel like the "shoes on the other foot" thing is not going to help anyone and is vaguely racist. At least this was optional.

Yeah, this thread demonstrated the problem with trying to highlight racial inequality with even voluntary experiments that directly, personally engage white people: white fragility. This experiment was meant to bring attention to what is clearly a serious racial disparity with serious consequences... but instead of that we have to listen to a lot of fellow white people shout in fear of "reverse discrimination".

What the fuck is white fragility?

[Right wing humour squad]

Telling people about racism is the real racism.

This does serve as a pretty good example of white fragility, though. Any possibility of a deeper conversation about the vast income inequality between races in that area is shut down entirely because the personal offense of being offered the voluntary option of paying more takes precedent.

Well no, the deeper conversation is blocked by people claiming racism is the cause of one demographics ills.

Its likely a political thing because the left seems to lose when it can’t keep claiming racism.

[The Xenopolis Confederation]

Sounds like an exceedingly good way to piss off potential customers through racism.

Telling people about racism is the real racism.

Saying "You're white, you earn more," is racial profiling, which is racist.

[Ifreann]

Telling people about racism is the real racism.

This does serve as a pretty good example of white fragility, though. Any possibility of a deeper conversation about the vast income inequality between races in that area is shut down entirely because the personal offense of being offered the voluntary option of paying more takes precedent.

Master race indeed.

[Ifreann]

Telling people about racism is the real racism.

Saying "You're white, you earn more," is racial profiling, which is racist.

Fascinating. No one's saying that, though.

[Kramanica]

Yeah, this thread demonstrated the problem with trying to highlight racial inequality with even voluntary experiments that directly, personally engage white people: white fragility. This experiment was meant to bring attention to what is clearly a serious racial disparity with serious consequences... but instead of that we have to listen to a lot of fellow white people shout in fear of "reverse discrimination".

What the fuck is white fragility?

Some left-wing term to describe people who get pissed off after constantly hearing about how terrible they are.

[Liriena]

This does serve as a pretty good example of white fragility, though. Any possibility of a deeper conversation about the vast income inequality between races in that area is shut down entirely because the personal offense of being offered the voluntary option of paying more takes precedent.

Well no, the deeper conversation is blocked by people claiming racism is the cause of one demographics ills.

Its likely a political thing because the left seems to lose when it can’t keep claiming racism.

lmaoooo

Pleaaaase. Talking about racism ain't a selling point of the left. The labour movement and economic populism is where it's at. :3

[Kramanica]

Sounds like an exceedingly good way to piss off potential customers through racism.

Telling people about racism is the real racism.

Automatically assuming that someone makes more because of their skin color is in fact racism.

[Right wing humour squad]

Saying "You're white, you earn more," is racial profiling, which is racist.

Fascinating. No one's saying that, though.

Except they are. It’s hard to say blacks earn less than whites without saying whites earn less than blacks.

[Liriena]

Yeah, this thread demonstrated the problem with trying to highlight racial inequality with even voluntary experiments that directly, personally engage white people: white fragility. This experiment was meant to bring attention to what is clearly a serious racial disparity with serious consequences... but instead of that we have to listen to a lot of fellow white people shout in fear of "reverse discrimination".

What the fuck is white fragility?

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/defin ... _fragility

Discomfort and defensiveness on the part of a white person when confronted by information about racial inequality and injustice.

https://blog.oxforddictionaries.com/201 ... shortlist/

White Fragility is a state in which even a minimum amount of racial stress becomes intolerable, triggering a range of defensive moves. These moves include the outward display of emotions such as anger, fear, and guilt, and behaviors such as argumentation, silence, and leaving the stress-inducing situation.

[Ifreann]

What the fuck is white fragility?

Some left-wing term to describe people who get pissed off after constantly hearing about how terrible they are.

"And then he said that white people earn more on average than black people!"
"Oh you poor dear, no wonder you're upset"

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Telling people about racism is the real racism.

Automatically assuming that someone makes more because of their skin color is in fact racism.

No one's assuming that.

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Fascinating. No one's saying that, though.

Except they are. It’s hard to say blacks earn less than whites without saying whites earn less than blacks.

Learn what averages are.

[Right wing humour squad]

Well no, the deeper conversation is blocked by people claiming racism is the cause of one demographics ills.

Its likely a political thing because the left seems to lose when it can’t keep claiming racism.

lmaoooo

Pleaaaase. Talking about racism ain't a selling point of the left. The labour movement and economic populism is where it's at. :3

Actually it’s the only part of those where the left gains ground. Without claiming racism the arguments there solidly fall to the right.

[Liriena]

Telling people about racism is the real racism.

Saying "You're white, you earn more," is racial profiling, which is racist.

So who are you quoting?

Because the real argument isn't "you're white, you earn more", but "white people in this area, on average, earn more". On average is the key concept here. You are individualizing an idea that's not individual.

[Kavagrad]

Fascinating. No one's saying that, though.

Except they are. It’s hard to say blacks earn less than whites without saying whites earn less than blacks.

It's extremely easy to say that. In fact, that's objectively true. Failing to see your point here.

[Liriena]

What the fuck is white fragility?

Some left-wing term to describe people who get pissed off after constantly hearing about how terrible they are.

^ tfw someone unwittingly confirms the concept they tried to mock. feels good man

[Liriena]

lmaoooo

Pleaaaase. Talking about racism ain't a selling point of the left. The labour movement and economic populism is where it's at. :3

Actually it’s the only part of those where the left gains ground. Without claiming racism the arguments there solidly fall to the right.

[citation needed]

[Kramanica]

Some left-wing term to describe people who get pissed off after constantly hearing about how terrible they are.

"And then he said that white people earn more on average than black people!"
"Oh you poor dear, no wonder you're upset"

Being asked to pay more because of your skin color sounds like a justifiable reason to be irritated.

Automatically assuming that someone makes more because of their skin color is in fact racism.

No one's assuming that.

"Pay more because you're white and whites make more than blacks."

"lol no one's assuming white people make more."

11/10 logic

[Liriena]

"Pay more because you're white and whites make more than blacks."

"lol no one's assuming white people make more."

11/10 logic

There's no way you managed to misrepresent the events so badly by accident.

[Kramanica]

Some left-wing term to describe people who get pissed off after constantly hearing about how terrible they are.

^ tfw someone unwittingly confirms the concept they tried to mock. feels good man

I'm a Jew so I'm not considered white in many circles.

Also you can't meme.

[Kramanica]

"Pay more because you're white and whites make more than blacks."

"lol no one's assuming white people make more."

11/10 logic

There's no way you managed to misrepresent the events so badly by accident.

I have no time for your tryhard snark today.

Either make your case or don't.

[Liriena]

^ tfw someone unwittingly confirms the concept they tried to mock. feels good man

I'm a Jew so I'm not considered white in many circles.

Yeah, but nazis didn't coin "white fragility", so I fail to see your point. ;3

Also you can't meme.

Them's fighting words.

[Kramanica]

I'm a Jew so I'm not considered white in many circles.

Yeah, but nazis didn't coin "white fragility", so I fail to see your point. ;3

It isn't just Nazis.

Also calling whites fragile is an awesome way to get them to listen to you. Really well done.

I can't tell if a lot of leftists are just tone deaf or socially inept (or a mixture of both).

Also you can't meme.

Them's fighting words.

It's true.