White? Why not pay more?

[The Xenopolis Confederation]

My problem is that he is asking only white people with the assumption that they earn more than black people.

Because statistically they do.

People aren't just statistics.

[Pope Joan]

Ironically, non white people in inner city food deserts pay far more for stuff like cereal and canned goods than folks in the suburbs do.
See they do not have real grocery stores there, so they have to pay for "convenience".
There is real reverse social engineering for you

[Reblibre]

My god this is a terrible idea. For one thing, racial tensions will never heal if you keep on trying to 'right wrongs' in such an asinine and divisive manner.

Secondly, what if a Black person WAS born into a richer household. What if a white person was born into a very poor family and actually worked hard to become affluent with his own two hands?

Thirdly, you can't punish people for their parents descisions, sure, it ends up happening anyways but you can't cause it. Just because we don't live in a just world doesn't mean doing something unjust will put things to right morally.

Fourthly, it's entirely possible that a person's ancestors were moderate fair people to all. Certainly my Scandinavian ancestors who settled in Minnesota never saw a black person until a generation or two ago. I also have Native American and Italian ancestors. Both of them were treated very poorly by the English-American peoples. Then again I also have an English Great-Grandmother who came over to America after WW2, the English pretty much mistreated everyone. Before you go to get a sandwich do you need to pull out an ancestory tree and debate how poorly your forefather's have been mistreated over the years compared to how much others have benifited? It's ridiculous, we live in a melting pot in America, people who appear to be of one race or another could have connections to all sorts of other people.

Fifthly, sure, White, Northern European races happen to be the most affluent today in general. But it's not like they have always been rich an sucsessful at the expense of everyone else. At one point Scandinavians were frequently sold as slaves to Africa. Red-Heads were sold as concubines and wives to Asia because they were believed to have magic powers and were often killed when it was found out that wasn't true. As a matter of fact, Red-Heads have been pretty poorly treated throughout history, often being burnt as witches and the like, should we give them a discount too?

And what about someone coming from Africa to America. I would assume that they would get a discount to, but guess what, the Africans still in Africa are the reason why the Africans in America were sold into slavery. Intertribal warfare had marked the ancestors of African Americans as slaves to the tribes they lost to, until the Portuguese went and bought them. The simple fact is is that people are constantly fighting to get to the top and stepping on others to get there. And all of our ancestors are guilty. And we will continue to be guilty of it. Maybe one day Blacks will be considered richer, more sucsessful and whites will be seen as generally more poor.

I don't care because I believe in TRUE EQUALITY, treating everyone as an INDIVIDUAL, not as part of a statistic or part of a legacy of evildoers, everyone should be seen as one person, able to make their own name, not tied to thier background by any means.

[The Xenopolis Confederation]

Ironically, non white people in inner city food deserts pay far more for stuff like cereal and canned goods than folks in the suburbs do.
See they do not have real grocery stores there, so they have to pay for "convenience".
There is real reverse social engineering for you

That's because of where they live, not because of actual discrimination.

[Pope Joan]

Ironically, non white people in inner city food deserts pay far more for stuff like cereal and canned goods than folks in the suburbs do.
See they do not have real grocery stores there, so they have to pay for "convenience".
There is real reverse social engineering for you

That's because of where they live, not because of actual discrimination.

It comes out the same in the end, just like the North's version of school segregation (based on housing) as opposed to that which the South once had (de jure).

[Internationalist Bastard]

It’s optional?
Don’t care then

[Computer Lab]

I think this social experiment was motivated from a good place, but it does read a little racist. Making an assumption based on appearance (even if statistically significant) isn't something I'm a big fan of.

I'm unsurprised that most people didn't accept the money given that this was done in a wealthy neighborhood, so everyone there probably would be insulted by the idea that they needed a handout.

I'd say make it an option to everyone to pay for a homeless person's meal with their purchase like several other restaurants around the country.

[The Xenopolis Confederation]

That's because of where they live, not because of actual discrimination.

It comes out the same in the end, just like the North's version of school segregation (based on housing) as opposed to that which the South once had (de jure).

Sorry, but if no one's discriminating against you, no one's discriminating against you.

[Reblibre]

What is does is make white people feel aware of being treated differently due to their skin colour, where he feels black people feel that all the time. It's simply a cute turning of the tables with no obligation to actually pay $30. And I think that lack of obligation derives from not really caring whether you pay $30 or not but simply to be aware.

So it's obviously more common for a white person to be a racist than it is for a black person to be. That's just another example of racism, I am being singled out because I am assumed to be a part of a more racist race, it's so racist it's puzzling why you seem confused by why people are labeling this as racist. A turning of the tables would imply that I am commonly making blacks feel different because of their skin color because, obviously, as a white person I am going to be the one who's a racist. Which, again, is racist to conclude! The only solution to racial tension is to treat everyone as an individual independent of ties to any particular background, let each individual choose how they will act. This is the real solution because unlike this resturaunt idea it is actually doing the total opposite of any '-ism'.

[Reblibre]

That's because of where they live, not because of actual discrimination.

It comes out the same in the end, just like the North's version of school segregation (based on housing) as opposed to that which the South once had (de jure).

It's true, as a white person I have been controlling the minds of black people to force them to live in inner-cities. Watch as I use my mind-control to force this native Hispanic person to be born in a poor, central-American country. Sorry, but don't complain for someone about where they have decided to live, there are plenty of wide open spaces outside of cities that they can live in much more affordably if they really want to.

[Jhman]

I believe this is just western propaganda

[Des-Bal]

Treating people in a fashion that reflects statistics about them rather than their individual identity is literally just profiling.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Y'all.....
This was a social experiment, not something someone was actually doing to discriminate against white people! OP, you shoulda read the article before making this thread.

[Bombadil]

Y'all.....
This was a social experiment, not something someone was actually doing to discriminate against white people! OP, you shoulda read the article before making this thread.

Lol.. maybe read my OP and my responses through this thread before you ask someone to read..

[Australian rePublic]

Irrespective of my race, I am unemployed. I'd be sure to make that to the chef when asking if I can pay less than $12

[Valrifell]

Treating people in a fashion that reflects statistics about them rather than their individual identity is literally just profiling.

But that's kinda the point he was trying to make.

[The Xenopolis Confederation]

Treating people in a fashion that reflects statistics about them rather than their individual identity is literally just profiling.

But that's kinda the point he was trying to make.

The point he was trying to make... was racial profiling?

[Cekoviu]

Treating people in a fashion that reflects statistics about them rather than their individual identity is literally just profiling.

But that's kinda the point he was trying to make.

He made an anti-racial profiling point by racially profiling people?

[Sovaal]

But that's kinda the point he was trying to make.

He made an anti-racial profiling point by racially profiling people?

I guess a point could be made with a sorta “shoes on the other foot” type deal, although all it’s done is start a shit show.

[Bombadil]

But that's kinda the point he was trying to make.

He made an anti-racial profiling point by racially profiling people?

Yes, by flipping the coin and making people think what it's like to be racially profiled. It's hard to empathise with people if you've never been in their position - even if that's just been asked to volunteer to pay more money without obligation.

[Cekoviu]

He made an anti-racial profiling point by racially profiling people?

I guess a point could be made with a sorta “shoes on the other foot” type deal, although all it’s done is start a shit show.

I feel like the "shoes on the other foot" thing is not going to help anyone and is vaguely racist. At least this was optional.

[Valrifell]

But that's kinda the point he was trying to make.

He made an anti-racial profiling point by racially profiling people?

You don't know someone unless you walk a mile in their shoes.

Not to mention the whole thing was optional, so if he was wrong and the white guy couldn't pay the higher price they could get it for normal.

[Ifreann]

Ironically, non white people in inner city food deserts pay far more for stuff like cereal and canned goods than folks in the suburbs do.
See they do not have real grocery stores there, so they have to pay for "convenience".
There is real reverse social engineering for you

What's reverse social engineering? I didn't know social engineering had a direction.

[Liriena]

It comes out the same in the end, just like the North's version of school segregation (based on housing) as opposed to that which the South once had (de jure).

Sorry, but if no one's discriminating against you, no one's discriminating against you.

Housing in the United States often has a lot to do with discrimination. Just because nobody is screeching racial slurs or putting "no blacks allowed" signs doesn't mean this isn't a race problem.

[Kramanica]

Sounds like an exceedingly good way to piss off potential customers through racism.