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Postby New haven america » Sun Mar 18, 2018 7:19 pm

Kubumba Tribe wrote:
Planet Beta Sigmus wrote:I think it's time the government charter a free boat back to Africa for any black american who has this much trouble getting along with white people

Instead of attacking racial inequality, let's deport US citizens! That's worked before!
>looks at Liberia
Oh wait...

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Postby Puldania » Sun Mar 18, 2018 7:20 pm

New haven america wrote:
Puldania wrote:oh my god what will I do now? The brilliant New haven america has defeated me with their superior logic!

And you've been proven incapable of making logical points, or any points for that matter, in the thread.

I haven't made any points, so you cannot surmise that I am incapable of doing so.

I might even agree with you, but you wouldn't know, would you?
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Postby Puldania » Sun Mar 18, 2018 7:21 pm

New haven america wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:Instead of attacking racial inequality, let's deport US citizens! That's worked before!
>looks at Liberia
Oh wait...

Knowing your beliefs you shouldn't judge.

Let me win this debate by pointing out how people with differing beliefs can't criticize other beliefs as well!
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Postby New haven america » Sun Mar 18, 2018 7:22 pm

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New haven america wrote:And you've been proven incapable of making logical points, or any points for that matter, in the thread.

I haven't made any points, so you cannot surmise that I am incapable of doing so.

I might even agree with you, but you wouldn't know, would you?

Got it, you don't have any points.
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Postby Puldania » Sun Mar 18, 2018 7:23 pm

New haven america wrote:
Puldania wrote:I haven't made any points, so you cannot surmise that I am incapable of doing so.

I might even agree with you, but you wouldn't know, would you?

Got it, you don't have any points.

Are you purposefully being obtuse?
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Postby Bombadil » Sun Mar 18, 2018 7:23 pm

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Postby Puldania » Sun Mar 18, 2018 7:24 pm

Bombadil wrote:Now now children..

but he started it
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Sun Mar 18, 2018 7:25 pm

New haven america wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:Instead of attacking racial inequality, let's deport US citizens! That's worked before!
>looks at Liberia
Oh wait...

Knowing your beliefs you shouldn't judge.

Why not? What do my beliefs have to do with decrying racism?
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This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Postby Bombadil » Sun Mar 18, 2018 7:25 pm

Puldania wrote:
Bombadil wrote:Now now children..

but he started it


Well you'll both be sent to bed if you don't stop it..
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Postby New haven america » Sun Mar 18, 2018 7:25 pm

Bombadil wrote:Now now children..

Eh, I tried answering your question as reasonablly as possible, but I'll give this a little break if need be.
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Postby Puldania » Sun Mar 18, 2018 7:25 pm

I think we're ignoring the real problem here: is the food even good enough for anyone to pay $30 for?
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Postby Puldania » Sun Mar 18, 2018 7:26 pm

Bombadil wrote:
Puldania wrote:but he started it


Well you'll both be sent to bed if you don't stop it..

It's not fair!
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Sun Mar 18, 2018 7:26 pm

Puldania wrote:I think we're ignoring the real problem here: is the food even good enough for anyone to pay $30 for?

:rofl:
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Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Postby Bombadil » Sun Mar 18, 2018 7:28 pm

Puldania wrote:I think we're ignoring the real problem here: is the food even good enough for anyone to pay $30 for?


There's a chef's description in the article..

amala and gbegiri with stew/ collard chips and roasted golden beets (cus the gbegiri no gree turn yellow cus I didn’t peel the beans cus I can’t come and go and kill myself). pull up

So.. I don't know really, the picture doesn't look super appetising. However it does seem relatively popular within what is a relatively wealthy district.

Puldania wrote:It's not fair!


Life's not fair dammit, that's the point the chef is trying to make.
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Sun Mar 18, 2018 7:30 pm

I have a question: how does asking white people if they want to pay extra for food indicative of racial economic disparities between blacks and whites?
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Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Postby Cekoviu » Sun Mar 18, 2018 7:30 pm

Puldania wrote:I think we're ignoring the real problem here: is the food even good enough for anyone to pay $30 for?

There is just about no food that I'd be willing to pay $30 for for a single person. Maybe a meal with upwards of 2 courses, but I couldn't eat that anyway.
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Postby Bombadil » Sun Mar 18, 2018 7:33 pm

Kubumba Tribe wrote:I have a question: how does asking white people if they want to pay extra for food indicative of racial economic disparities between blacks and whites?


The additional price reflects roughly the same amount as the difference between average wages for black families and white families*

The consideration asked is - is that due to racial bias in and of itself. What does it feel like to be worse off merely for the colour of one's skin. I'm not arguing that this is exactly the case but it's the point of the exercise.

*this has somewhat bothered me, I'm not a fan of 'averages' as an indication given a few white families may be distorting the picture, and I don't like 'families' being there either, it smacks a little of finding the highest ratio to make the point.. but by the by
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sun Mar 18, 2018 7:43 pm

Kubumba Tribe wrote:I have a question: how does asking white people if they want to pay extra for food indicative of racial economic disparities between blacks and whites?

My problem is that he is asking only white people with the assumption that they earn more than black people.

That's just something that conflicts the idea of everyone being equal regardless of gender.

Also IDPOL can just stop.

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Postby Major-Tom » Sun Mar 18, 2018 7:46 pm

It's a private business, they can theoretically ask customers to pay more, and since it isn't forced, it doesn't violate any laws per se. My issue with this is it seems like the total wrong way to capitalize on economic inequalities in New Orleans, especially by assuming a white customer is wealthier (on average they probably are, but that totally misses the point).

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Postby Cekoviu » Sun Mar 18, 2018 7:47 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:I have a question: how does asking white people if they want to pay extra for food indicative of racial economic disparities between blacks and whites?

My problem is that he is asking only white people with the assumption that they earn more than black people.

That's just something that conflicts the idea of everyone being equal regardless of gender.

Also IDPOL can just stop.

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Postby Bombadil » Sun Mar 18, 2018 7:52 pm

To turn it around, what would people do.. as a simple measure to get people to at least wonder why the average wage for white families is double that for black families.

It's all very well to publish data but that doesn't necessarily impact on an individual level or make people honestly think about the question.

How would people improve this?
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Sun Mar 18, 2018 8:01 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:I have a question: how does asking white people if they want to pay extra for food indicative of racial economic disparities between blacks and whites?

My problem is that he is asking only white people with the assumption that they earn more than black people.

Because statistically they do.
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Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sun Mar 18, 2018 8:22 pm

Kubumba Tribe wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:My problem is that he is asking only white people with the assumption that they earn more than black people.

Because statistically they do.

On a statistical level, yes but that doesn't translate to people in the shop buying food.

And it's still racist beacuse he was judging people on skin color without knowledge of if there rich or poor.

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Postby Arumdaum » Sun Mar 18, 2018 8:27 pm

Planet Beta Sigmus wrote:I think it's time the government charter a free boat back to Africa for any black american who has this much trouble getting along with white people

ah, yes, bc black people are actually just guests living in a white mans land
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Postby Albrenia » Sun Mar 18, 2018 8:34 pm

Kubumba Tribe wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:My problem is that he is asking only white people with the assumption that they earn more than black people.

Because statistically they do.


Statistics don't always tell the whole story on a case-by-case basis, though. Again though, the increase in price isn't mandatory, and if the food's good enough I'd take a short guilt trip to get it.

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