White? Why not pay more?

[The South Falls]

Might not optional reverse racism be warranted to bring awareness to actual racism that exists in the economic system?

In doing so, white people aren't actually being punished, but are being given occasion to think about an actual issue that many of their fellow Americans face.

And an occasion to enrich the shop owner. It would seem more transparent to put a doantion box on the counter for Black Lives Matter, rather than giving a fellow eighteen dollars more, only because makes you think about a problem in which he probably bares similar relation to you.

Edit:

As I said above, he should donate the extra 18 to a charity, dedicated to fixing the income gap, or at least shortening it.

[Ethel mermania]

You don't fix racism with more racism. I would pay the lower amount, do my own bit of moralizing, that not all blacks are poor nor are all whites rich, and then never go back.

It is reasonable as a publicity stunt, but it's no more than that.

[Goverwal]

If people want to make a sacrifice to accomplish a political goal that they sympathise with, I have no problem with this. If it was forced, then it would be discrimination, but instead they are being offered a choice, and if they wish to take up the option of paying more, it is perfectly within their rights to do so. Its like paying above the minimum donation when entering a museum: no-one makes you, but many people do.

[Jackania yugo]

You don't fix racism with more racism. I would pay the lower amount, do my own bit of moralizing, that not all blacks are poor nor are all whites rich, and then never go back.

It is reasonable as a publicity stunt, but it's no more than that.

Just keep it the same.

It's all the regressive left nutjobs.

Still, be wary of the alt-right.

Let's go equalitarian.

[Kavagrad]

Wey offered to redistribute the extra money back to black patrons, the majority of whom did not take him up on the offer. Some, he said, asked if they could pay $30 too.

Oops..

It's still racism.

Racism=bad.

It would be racism if they were forced to pay the higher price (and even then, there's a debate to be had), but this is entirely optional. I don't see where your objections come from. Isn't the free market all about choice?

[Idzequitch]

Isn't this just your typical free-market price discrimination?

That being said, inb4 white ancaps and neoliberals flood this thread to oppose this, I guess.

No, it is not, the free market does not mold it's prices to things like race. It is why it is called the FREE market. The same service provided by the same operator in the same area has the same price for all customers, because profit does not see race.

Instead of raising prices for whites, why doesn't this guy just lower the prices for black customers? Oh right, I forgot, doing something actually cheritable ain't as much a sensation as race-baiting.

That doesn't accomplish the same thing. When you make less money than others, but pay the same prices, it puts more of a strain on your finances any time you purchase something (simple economics, right?)

What is being asked is that the white folks (who are more likely to be wealthy) feel the same financial strain from buying one meal as some of the non-rich (and more likely non-white) folks around them.

[The Great-German Empire]

It's still racism.

Racism=bad.

It would be racism if they were forced to pay the higher price (and even then, there's a debate to be had), but this is entirely optional. I don't see where your objections come from. Isn't the free market all about choice?

I disagree; If there was no choice, it's be racist by definition and without debate.

[Jackania yugo]

This does seem a bit fishy considering what SJW's are trying to do.

Why can't everyone just be equal socially.

Not economically. Didn't work when the communists tried.

[Chill beats LLC]

Why based on race? White =/= well-off and Black =/= poor. Do it based off of income.

[The South Falls]

It's still racism.

Racism=bad.

It would be racism if they were forced to pay the higher price (and even then, there's a debate to be had), but this is entirely optional. I don't see where your objections come from. Isn't the free market all about choice?

It is choice. However just keeping the 18 sucks, how bout actually fix the gap, instead of stunting?

[Kavagrad]

This does seem a bit fishy considering what SJW's are trying to do.

Why can't everyone just be equal socially.

Not economically. Didn't work when the communists tried.

Social equality cannot exist without economic equality. Also, if you're going to spew the ol' anti-SJW stuff, say what you actually mean.

[Bombadil]

What is being asked is that the white folks (who are more likely to be wealthy) feel the same financial strain from buying one meal as some of the non-rich (and more likely non-white) folks around them.

I'm not sure that's the goal, I think it's to place the onus of the clear average income gap onto the person.. that is to make the person who, on average at least, earns more than twice as much question as to why that's the case and if it's fair.

[The South Falls]

Why based on race? White =/= well-off and Black =/= poor. Do it based off of income.

Are you going to just whip out your tax returns, and people would pore through it? How about anyone being able to pay 30, and the extra 18 being donated to charity!

[Kavagrad]

It would be racism if they were forced to pay the higher price (and even then, there's a debate to be had), but this is entirely optional. I don't see where your objections come from. Isn't the free market all about choice?

It is choice. However just keeping the 18 sucks, how bout actually fix the gap, instead of stunting?

He offered the excess to PoC patrons, most of whom declined to take it.

[Jackania yugo]

This does seem a bit fishy considering what SJW's are trying to do.

Why can't everyone just be equal socially.

Not economically. Didn't work when the communists tried.

Social equality cannot exist without economic equality. Also, if you're going to spew the ol' anti-SJW stuff, say what you actually mean.

Those people who don't like whites, men, heterosexuals Etc. who think they have too much "privilege". They also really like Islam despite the Muslim majority countries being rather homophobic.

[Jackania yugo]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_righ ... udi_Arabia

"Saudi Arabia is considered to have one of the worst LGBT rights records in the world."

[Kavagrad]

Social equality cannot exist without economic equality. Also, if you're going to spew the ol' anti-SJW stuff, say what you actually mean.

Those people who don't like whites, men, heterosexuals Etc. who think they have too much "privilege". They also really like Islam despite the Muslim majority countries being rather homophobic.

So you're saying that having an average income almost 3 times as high as blacks isn't an example of privilege?

[Jackania yugo]

Those people who don't like whites, men, heterosexuals Etc. who think they have too much "privilege". They also really like Islam despite the Muslim majority countries being rather homophobic.

So you're saying that having an average income almost 3 times as high as blacks isn't an example of privilege?

I'm saying it will be bad if it goes the other way.

Or have I be watching to much skeptic stuff...

[Ors Might]

I guess this is okay? Kind of stupid but ultimately harmless. It’d be outright wrong if they were forcing white patrons to pay more.

I personally wouldn’t pay more as I’m making minimum wage and can only barely pay my phone bills.

[Bombadil]

Social equality cannot exist without economic equality. Also, if you're going to spew the ol' anti-SJW stuff, say what you actually mean.

Those people who don't like whites, men, heterosexuals Etc. who think they have too much "privilege". They also really like Islam despite the Muslim majority countries being rather homophobic.

Maybe they're just for an equally treated society over really being for one or another. Or maybe we can run with the same sort of generalisations that annoy all of us.

[Kavagrad]

So you're saying that having an average income almost 3 times as high as blacks isn't an example of privilege?

I'm saying it will be bad if it goes the other way.

Or have I be watching to much skeptic stuff...

You certainly seem to. There's no conspiracy to oppress whites, this is simply raising awareness and trying the level the playing field.

[Ors Might]

Those people who don't like whites, men, heterosexuals Etc. who think they have too much "privilege". They also really like Islam despite the Muslim majority countries being rather homophobic.

So you're saying that having an average income almost 3 times as high as blacks isn't an example of privilege?

For whites that actually have that income? Yeah, sure.

[Granluras]

How about no because not all white people are rich and this is akin to outright stereotyping?

[Jackania yugo]

How about no because not all white people are rich and this is akin to outright stereotyping?

Yeah. Kind of.

[Xelsis]

I don't really have much of a problem with a business charging white people more for something. Let them run their business their own way.

What I do have a problem with is this sort of behavior being defended or praised among left-wingers as them choosing their own way to run a business, discriminatory or not, and then turning around and trying to smash Masterpiece Cakeshop and similar prices.

Just serve who you want to serve, and charge what you want to charge. Let the market sort it out.