2018 Canadian Politics Thread—ON, QC, and BC vote

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

How long does it take to get e-registered?

I did mine a week ago and so far nothing.

[Saint-Thor]

No. As far as I'm concerned, I can't get out of this dumpster fire of a province fast enough (even if I do live in Montreal, the best part of Quebec).

That kind of thinking may be part of your problems.

[Balnik]

Eh. No love for the east, they're in their own grave now and I can care less. I'll just be in my seat ready to give the Alberta NPD the boot. If I were in Ontario I would honestly vote Greens to not contribute to any of that political landscape. My advice for Quebec is to vote BQ and get out while you can. For BC? Nothing but props if they pass it.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Eh. No love for the east, they're in their own grave now and I can care less. I'll just be in my seat ready to give the Alberta NPD the boot. If I were in Ontario I would honestly vote Greens to not contribute to any of that political landscape. My advice for Quebec is to vote BQ and get out while you can. For BC? Nothing but props if they pass it.

Why? This is a great country and Q should stay.

[Balnik]

Eh. No love for the east, they're in their own grave now and I can care less. I'll just be in my seat ready to give the Alberta NPD the boot. If I were in Ontario I would honestly vote Greens to not contribute to any of that political landscape. My advice for Quebec is to vote BQ and get out while you can. For BC? Nothing but props if they pass it.

Why? This is a great country and Q should stay.

Hah. No, the confederation and it's dream are dead

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Why? This is a great country and Q should stay.

Hah. No, the confederation and it's dream are dead

>First world nation

>Great healthcare

>Low crime rate

>BBF's with 'Merica

>Growing GDP


What.txt

[Balnik]

Hah. No, the confederation and it's dream are dead

>First world nation

>Great healthcare

>Low crime rate

>BBF's with 'Merica

>Growing GDP


What.txt

Social stagrnations, western alienation, a jester of a prime minister, the continued exploitation of the country from outside forces, And a recent employment depression. To me these speak otherwise.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

>First world nation

>Great healthcare

>Low crime rate

>BBF's with 'Merica

>Growing GDP


What.txt

Social stagrnations, western alienation, a jester of a prime minister, the continued exploitation of the country from outside forces, And a recent employment depression. To me these speak otherwise.

Harper fucked up and western alienation hasn't been a factor in years.


Justin is ok.

GDP is growing.

We be fine fam.

[Balnik]

Social stagrnations, western alienation, a jester of a prime minister, the continued exploitation of the country from outside forces, And a recent employment depression. To me these speak otherwise.

Harper fucked up and western alienation hasn't been a factor in years.


Justin is ok.

GDP is growing.

We be fine fam.

I beg to differ. Your source was only to 2015, before the oil crashes, fort mac burning down, And the entire economy of province dropped.

You may be fine but we would be better off.

I could also bring up a article that would say contrary to that.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alberta_separatism

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Harper fucked up and western alienation hasn't been a factor in years.


Justin is ok.

GDP is growing.

We be fine fam.

I beg to differ. Your source was only to 2015, before the oil crashes, fort mac burning down, And the entire economy of province dropped.

You may be fine but we would be better off.

And the government helped the Fort fire. I know I donated to the red cross to help them.

We are united.


Also, 2016 was a long time ago.

That's the latest your sauce goes.

And then, nothing.

[Balnik]

I beg to differ. Your source was only to 2015, before the oil crashes, fort mac burning down, And the entire economy of province dropped.

You may be fine but we would be better off.

And the government helped the Fort fire. I know I donated to the red cross to help them.

We are united.


Also, 2016 was a long time ago.

That's the latest your sauce goes.

And then, nothing.

Not enough to stop the largest sector of the economy in Alberta and arguably one of the largest in Canada from crashing essentially.

Nah.

This article proves otherwise.
http://business.financialpost.com/opini ... in-alberta

It's bound to happen if this trend increases. All politicians are focused on the east and further votes. Very ittle thoughts go into the West.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

And the government helped the Fort fire. I know I donated to the red cross to help them.

We are united.


Also, 2016 was a long time ago.

That's the latest your sauce goes.

And then, nothing.

Not enough to stop the largest sector of the economy in Alberta and arguably one of the largest in Canada from crashing essentially.

Nah.

This article proves otherwise.
http://business.financialpost.com/opini ... in-alberta

It's bound to happen if this trend increases. All politicians are focused on the east and further votes. Very ittle thoughts go into the West.

One article from a Con leaning sauce saying that it's popping up again from Oct 2017, A single radio interview in 2015, and mostly nothing between 2005 and 2015.


I really really really doubt "Albertexit"will happen.

[Balnik]

Not enough to stop the largest sector of the economy in Alberta and arguably one of the largest in Canada from crashing essentially.

Nah.

This article proves otherwise.
http://business.financialpost.com/opini ... in-alberta

It's bound to happen if this trend increases. All politicians are focused on the east and further votes. Very ittle thoughts go into the West.

One article from a Con leaning sauce saying that it's popping up again from Oct 2017, A single radio interview in 2015, and mostly nothing between 2005 and 2015.


I really really really doubt "Albertexit"will happen.

You can doubt all you want.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

One article from a Con leaning sauce saying that it's popping up again from Oct 2017, A single radio interview in 2015, and mostly nothing between 2005 and 2015.


I really really really doubt "Albertexit"will happen.

You can doubt all you want.

I will. It just doesn't look like it will happen. The article you referenced for one had a question mark in it's headline, so no.

Secondly, Alberta just wouldn't have much to gain from leaving.

If Quebec can't why would Alberta even try?

[Balnik]

You can doubt all you want.

I will. It just doesn't look like it will happen. The article you referenced for one had a question mark in it's headline, so no.

Secondly, Alberta just wouldn't have much to gain from leaving.

If Quebec can't why would Alberta even try?

It would be better than shipping all our east.

And because Quebec is getting pampered with funds.

[Ameriva]

Should electoral reform pass in BC, I'm moving out of this shithole province.

Horrendous amounts of drugs, poverty, and crime in Vancouver, Millions of dollars for a decent house (thanks China), $1.65 a litre for gas, horrendously high taxes, highest car insurance rates in NA and most regions of the world (due to provincial monopoly and utterly incompetent drivers), the provincial government actively promoting measures to take my lawful firearms away, a mosque literally only half a kilometer from me renowned for being radical (the Parliament shooter went there, IIRC), blasting some call to prayer bullshit at 5 in the morning every day.

And now this shitty proposition that will make it literally impossible to vote in a government that will fix the bullshit that decades of socialist/Liberal rule caused. Fuck this shit, I'm out.

S H I T H O L E.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

I will. It just doesn't look like it will happen. The article you referenced for one had a question mark in it's headline, so no.

Secondly, Alberta just wouldn't have much to gain from leaving.

If Quebec can't why would Alberta even try?

It would be better than shipping all our east.

And because Quebec is getting pampered with funds.

Spiting up the country and having a crisis over that?

Nah.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Should electoral reform pass in BC, I'm moving out of this shithole province.

Proportional representation is only a good thing.

And let's face it, whenever someone says "If X gets the vote I will move from Y", 99% of the time they don't move.

[MERIZoC]

Should electoral reform pass in BC, I'm moving out of this shithole province.

Horrendous amounts of drugs, poverty, and crime in Vancouver, Millions of dollars for a decent house (thanks China), $1.65 a litre for gas, horrendously high taxes, highest car insurance rates in NA and most regions of the world (due to provincial monopoly and utterly incompetent drivers), the provincial government actively promoting measures to take my lawful firearms away, a mosque literally only half a kilometer from me renowned for being radical (the Parliament shooter went there, IIRC), blasting some call to prayer bullshit at 5 in the morning every day.

And now this shitty proposition that will make it literally impossible to vote in a government that will fix the bullshit that decades of socialist/Liberal rule caused. Fuck this shit, I'm out.

S H I T H O L E.

If you're so upset with socialist/Liberal rule, I dunno what party you think is gonna deliver you the government you want through the current system.

[Ameriva]

Should electoral reform pass in BC, I'm moving out of this shithole province.

Proportional representation is only a good thing.

And let's face it, whenever someone says "If X gets the vote I will move from Y", 99% of the time they don't move.

The current system is proportional enough. We're not first past the post province-wide for elections, like the US is state-wide, but are first past the post on a municipal level, sending MLA's to the Provincial Legislature and MP's to Parliament. The interests of that riding are then represented.

What this Proposal does is simply buff up the NDP vote in each riding unfairly and enable Horgan's communist NDP to stay in power forever and lead this province further down the shitter.

85% of British Columbians likely wont even bother reading the actual proposition, just the Government's propaganda website or not even read anything at all and vote because "muh equal representation"

And, for reasons mentioned, I am already one foot out the door, and should this bullshit pass, I will look at buying a house somewhere in the Conservative part of Alberta, or perhaps explore my options for moving down to the states.

[Ameriva]

Should electoral reform pass in BC, I'm moving out of this shithole province.

Horrendous amounts of drugs, poverty, and crime in Vancouver, Millions of dollars for a decent house (thanks China), $1.65 a litre for gas, horrendously high taxes, highest car insurance rates in NA and most regions of the world (due to provincial monopoly and utterly incompetent drivers), the provincial government actively promoting measures to take my lawful firearms away, a mosque literally only half a kilometer from me renowned for being radical (the Parliament shooter went there, IIRC), blasting some call to prayer bullshit at 5 in the morning every day.

And now this shitty proposition that will make it literally impossible to vote in a government that will fix the bullshit that decades of socialist/Liberal rule caused. Fuck this shit, I'm out.

S H I T H O L E.

If you're so upset with socialist/Liberal rule, I dunno what party you think is gonna deliver you the government you want through the current system.

The BC Conservatives would clean up this province and make it move in the right direction after decades of the NDP and Liberals destroying the fabric of it, but one slight problem... https://i.imgur.com/mlixLwi.png

The utter ignorance about the current state of the province from the average British Columbian is simply astonishing.

[MERIZoC]

If you're so upset with socialist/Liberal rule, I dunno what party you think is gonna deliver you the government you want through the current system.

The BC Conservatives would clean up this province and make it move in the right direction after decades of the NDP and Liberals destroying the fabric of it, but one slight problem... https://i.imgur.com/mlixLwi.png

The utter ignorance about the current state of the province from the average British Columbian is simply astonishing.

Yeah so I'm still unclear as to how proportional representation will somehow make them less relevant.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Proportional representation is only a good thing.

And let's face it, whenever someone says "If X gets the vote I will move from Y", 99% of the time they don't move.

The current system is proportional enough. We're not first past the post province-wide for elections, like the US is state-wide, but are first past the post on a municipal level, sending MLA's to the Provincial Legislature and MP's to Parliament. The interests of that riding are then represented.

What this Proposal does is simply buff up the NDP vote in each riding unfairly and enable Horgan's communist NDP to stay in power forever and lead this province further down the shitter.

85% of British Columbians likely wont even bother reading the actual proposition, just the Government's propaganda website or not even read anything at all and vote cuz because "muh equal representation"

And, for reasons mentioned, I am already one foot out the door, and should this bullshit pass, I will look at buying a house somewhere in the Conservative part of Alberta, or perhaps explore my options for moving down to the states.

If the OP is still accurate, "Details haven't been fleshed out yet".

FPTP is pure trash, you need more proportionalism.

As for the move, you can do what you want but what you say makes me think of all the Con's who wanted to move from America when Obama was elected and re elected.


Or the people who threatened to move up here when Trump stumbled into the White House.

As I can see, none of those people ever moved.

[Ameriva]

The BC Conservatives would clean up this province and make it move in the right direction after decades of the NDP and Liberals destroying the fabric of it, but one slight problem... https://i.imgur.com/mlixLwi.png

The utter ignorance about the current state of the province from the average British Columbian is simply astonishing.

Yeah so I'm still unclear as to how proportional representation will somehow make them less relevant.

The problem is no non-leftist party even bothers to run for Legislature. The BC Conservatives don't even receive funding from the CPC IIRC, so they don't bother running as you can't win elections without a well-funded campaign. Should they actually run, I forsee the north part of the province definitely voting Conservative, along the Transcanada east of Surrey would also all be Conservative, which could actually flip the legislature under the current system. In essentially all ridings, you can only choose from the NDP, the Liberals, or the Greens, and the occasional Independent.

For me, it's like choosing whether to die from cancer, AIDS, or the black plague, so I don't even bother voting.

Although I likely will this time, against the NDP, because I simply can't stand them, and want them unseated from my riding.

[Ameriva]

The current system is proportional enough. We're not first past the post province-wide for elections, like the US is state-wide, but are first past the post on a municipal level, sending MLA's to the Provincial Legislature and MP's to Parliament. The interests of that riding are then represented.

What this Proposal does is simply buff up the NDP vote in each riding unfairly and enable Horgan's communist NDP to stay in power forever and lead this province further down the shitter.

85% of British Columbians likely wont even bother reading the actual proposition, just the Government's propaganda website or not even read anything at all and vote cuz because "muh equal representation"

And, for reasons mentioned, I am already one foot out the door, and should this bullshit pass, I will look at buying a house somewhere in the Conservative part of Alberta, or perhaps explore my options for moving down to the states.

If the OP is still accurate, "Details haven't been fleshed out yet".

FPTP is pure trash, you need more proportionalism.

As for the move, you can do what you want but what you say makes me think of all the Con's who wanted to move from America when Obama was elected and re elected.


Or the people who threatened to move up here when Trump stumbled into the White House.

As I can see, none of those people ever moved.

From the debates in the Provincial Legislatures, to the drafts published, and even from what the government publishes on the propaganda website advocating the reform, you can get a good idea about what the intentions of the actual reforms are.

You're right about a lot of people making idle threats about moving to a different jurisdictions should a political party they disagree with come to/retain power, but trust me, you have no idea how bad it is here in BC. Even if my threat of moving out of BC was idle, eventually I'd be forced to, as living here is simply unsustainable with such high prices for literally everything. I've taken on ridiculous amounts debt whilst living in BC, and I would consider myself as someone who makes sane financial decisions.

I bought my house for $315,000 ten years ago, I can easily get $1,300,000 now, which means I can sell my townhouse and get a 4500 sq. ft. palace in Alberta for $550,000, pay off my mortgage and have a crap ton left to pay off my debt and live a pretty lavish lifestyle.

I see no reason why I'm still even living in this shithole.