UK Rape Gang scandal, up to 1000 victims.

[Saiwania]

They're going to do that by raping teenagers in Telford?

That is just a demonstration of the typical Muslim supremacy attitude. Islamic fundamentalists assume that Kafir women are sluts and treat them accordingly, if they don't dress sufficiently Islamic enough as one example. In that situation, such people will only be deterred if they get retaliation to enough of an extent where they'll fear trying anything or will think twice before opting for aggression.

[VoVoDoCo]

Took police 10 years to finally treat this seriously?

Perhaps they too busy arresting people smoking cannabis. Priorities, no?

Fuck.

[Kubumba Tribe]

They're going to do that by raping teenagers in Telford?

That is just a demonstration of the typical Muslim supremacy attitude.

That's not typical among Muslims.
You know how to tell the difference between an extreme munafiq (hypocrite) Muslim and a Muslim who's not extreme, right?

[Fartsniffage]

That is just a demonstration of the typical Muslim supremacy attitude.

That's not typical among Muslims.
You know how to tell the difference between an extreme munafiq (hypocrite) Muslim and a Muslim who's not extreme, right?

But the large rings that occur in the UK seem to muslim in origin.

There are individuals that get away with it for an extended time but the rings with large numbers of perpetrators seem to be muslim. Why aren't the people invited into these rings reporting them?

[Kubumba Tribe]

Forcing people to convert to Al-Islam is haram. And Al-Islam is Al-Islam. In the Holy Qur'an and Sunnah.

It is nonetheless taken to be valid by Islamic fundamentalists and that is where my concern and suspicion of all things Islam comes from.

So because of something that some munafiqeen (hypocrites) do [i]that's not even part of Al-Islam, you're gonna be scared of almost 1.6 billion people and our religion? How the heck does that work?

It represents nothing less than a fifth column waiting for a chance to strike. So I have to crush it.

Crushing extremism, right?

Didn't stop your Prophet or his successors from conquering an empire.

1: What does Prophet Muhammad (SAWS) have to do with this?
2: Prophet Muhammad (SAWS) didn't conquer an empire, the Khalifat of the Rashidun Khilafah (RA) did that.

[Kubumba Tribe]

That's not typical among Muslims.
You know how to tell the difference between an extreme munafiq (hypocrite) Muslim and a Muslim who's not extreme, right?

But the large rings that occur in the UK seem to muslim in origin.

There are individuals that get away with it for an extended time but the rings with large numbers of perpetrators seem to be muslim. Why aren't the people invited into these rings reporting them?

Because they're sick in the head too?

[Crockerland]

I wonder who could possibly be behind this.

[Fartsniffage]

But the large rings that occur in the UK seem to muslim in origin.

There are individuals that get away with it for an extended time but the rings with large numbers of perpetrators seem to be muslim. Why aren't the people invited into these rings reporting them?

Because they're sick in the head too?

That doesn't fly. A one off, maybe. Repeatedly? Nah, something systemic is wrong.

[Bombadil]

Because they're sick in the head too?

That doesn't fly. A one off, maybe. Repeatedly? Nah, something systemic is wrong.

I'm going to repost this as it got lost at the end of the last page..

Just need to go to Pattaya in Thailand to know this is not strictly a Muslim culture issue, or most embassy districts in cities around the world. Except we don't call them immigrants we call them expats.. and the vast majority don't get involved but some do and westerners can be painted with the same brush.

..or the priest paedophilic issue.. is Christianity inherently that way?

So let's put that one to bed really.

As I noted before it's hard to police closed communities. It might help if the police force was more diverse but that's as much an issue of recruitment as any racism within the police force.

Even if it's not a particularly closed community people don't often speak out.. there's a recent case of a football scout, if not more, in the UK preying on young boys for years. Everyone kind of knew, everyone muttered things about him.. but he was allowed to carry on for years.

The police can complain it's a case of political sensitivities but the key is in community relations and I think that's the specific area that's been cut with budgets.

[Fartsniffage]

That doesn't fly. A one off, maybe. Repeatedly? Nah, something systemic is wrong.

I'm going to repost this as it got lost at the end of the last page..

Just need to go to Pattaya in Thailand to know this is not strictly a Muslim culture issue, or most embassy districts in cities around the world. Except we don't call them immigrants we call them expats.. and the vast majority don't get involved but some do and westerners can be painted with the same brush.

..or the priest paedophilic issue.. is Christianity inherently that way?

So let's put that one to bed really.

As I noted before it's hard to police closed communities. It might help if the police force was more diverse but that's as much an issue of recruitment as any racism within the police force.

Even if it's not a particularly closed community people don't often speak out.. there's a recent case of a football scout, if not more, in the UK preying on young boys for years. Everyone kind of knew, everyone muttered things about him.. but he was allowed to carry on for years.

The police can complain it's a case of political sensitivities but the key is in community relations and I think that's the specific area that's been cut with budgets.

And I'm happy to say that there were systemic failings and seeming promotion of fucking kids in the Catholic church.

This seems to be a serious problem in the UK. Muslim gangs raping lots of people. It should be sorted out and claiming there are other problems too is like saying we should ignore one murder because a different murder happened.

[Kubumba Tribe]

Because they're sick in the head too?

That doesn't fly. A one off, maybe. Repeatedly? Nah, something systemic is wrong.

No, not mentally sick in the head, if that's what you're thinking. I meant "evil".

[Liriena]

Isn't it amazing when someone is so consumed by ideology that they just reflexively lump everyone they disagree with into one amorphous blob, and start incoherently mixing up places and groups?

I see you're still butt hurt over me being blunt about these things.

Mmmm... should I make a sex joke and potentially break the PG-13 rule? I'm really tempted. ;3

If you're done flirting with me with unsolicited comments about my butt, you could take this opportunity to clarify your statements. That is, of course, if you have any intention of talking seriously.

[Fartsniffage]

That doesn't fly. A one off, maybe. Repeatedly? Nah, something systemic is wrong.

No, not mentally sick in the head, if that's what you're thinking. I meant "evil".

What difference does that make to what I said? These rings seem to be all muslim. Are you saying that muslims are evil?

[Bombadil]

And I'm happy to say that there were systemic failings and seeming promotion of fucking kids in the Catholic church.

This seems to be a serious problem in the UK. Muslim gangs raping lots of people. It should be sorted out and claiming there are other problems too is like saying we should ignore one murder because a different murder happened.

Good community policing is key. Having a diverse force where an element of trust and cultural understanding can go a long long way to getting the information and evidence, and even treating it as a major issue, is important.

Aside from long noted racism in the force there's a reluctance among immigrant communities in joining the police as well. Addressing this should be a focus but, and I need to check, but I think community policing is an area subject to severe cutbacks.

That's not to say the issue shouldn't be addressed head on as well. Yet rape cases are notoriously hard to prosecute. As I remember it's not a classic case of kidnap and rape per se, it's luring in victims with money, drugs and alcohol. They're preying on a victimised class already. God knows if it happened to one MPs daughter or a member of the upper class and this would be dealt with very swiftly.

[Liriena]

There is a huge Pakistani community in the UK. Thousands of whom came to the UK with British passports and then settled and had children. You're claiming that they're undocumented when the vast majority are British citizens.

I strongly doubt all these perps were legal British citizens.

Doubt is not proof, m'dude.

[Liriena]

I wonder who could possibly be behind this.

No need to dog-whistle lazily. As you can see, we've already discussed the whos and whys at length and nobody is trying to whitewash this.

[Fartsniffage]

And I'm happy to say that there were systemic failings and seeming promotion of fucking kids in the Catholic church.

This seems to be a serious problem in the UK. Muslim gangs raping lots of people. It should be sorted out and claiming there are other problems too is like saying we should ignore one murder because a different murder happened.

Good community policing is key. Having a diverse force where an element of trust and cultural understanding can go a long long way to getting the information and evidence, and even treating it as a major issue, is important.

Aside from long noted racism in the force there's a reluctance among immigrant communities in joining the police as well. Addressing this should be a focus but, and I need to check, but I think community policing is an area subject to severe cutbacks.

That's not to say the issue shouldn't be addressed head on as well. Yet rape cases are notoriously hard to prosecute. As I remember it's not a classic case of kidnap and rape per se, it's luring in victims with money, drugs and alcohol. They're preying on a victimised class already. God knows if it happened to one MPs daughter or a member of the upper class and this would be dealt with very swiftly.

The percentage of BME police officers has been increasing year on year for the last 10 years. Perhaps you just don't know the stats.

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... kforce.pdf

Page 26.

[Eibenland]

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[Fartsniffage]

I thought Roterham was old news?

Did you even read the OP?

[Bombadil]

Good community policing is key. Having a diverse force where an element of trust and cultural understanding can go a long long way to getting the information and evidence, and even treating it as a major issue, is important.

Aside from long noted racism in the force there's a reluctance among immigrant communities in joining the police as well. Addressing this should be a focus but, and I need to check, but I think community policing is an area subject to severe cutbacks.

That's not to say the issue shouldn't be addressed head on as well. Yet rape cases are notoriously hard to prosecute. As I remember it's not a classic case of kidnap and rape per se, it's luring in victims with money, drugs and alcohol. They're preying on a victimised class already. God knows if it happened to one MPs daughter or a member of the upper class and this would be dealt with very swiftly.

The percentage of BME police officers has been increasing year on year for the last 10 years. Perhaps you just don't know the stats.

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... kforce.pdf

Page 26.

As at 31 March 2017, 6% of all officers were Black and Minority Ethnic (BME), the highest proportion since records began.

Yay 6%..

I wonder how many are concentrated in London.. still in the same document Community Police Officers dropped 7.5% in the last year alone.

I see your point but it doesn't refute mine exactly.

[Albrenia]

Seems like UK Pakistani community leaders both secular and religious should step up and condemn this sort of behaviour directly and specifically. Even if it seems a little redundant to the more reasonable members of said groups, it could encourage bystanders to stop being quiet and speak up.

It'd also take the winds out of the whole 'muslims are evil' crowd's sails a bit.

Less of an 'us and them' attitude from everyone would help too. No more protecting the in-group from the punishment of crimes against the out-group, and so on.

[Eibenland]

I thought Roterham was old news?

Did you even read the OP?

I made a mistake in reading the article, I was skimming it very quickly.

[Eibenland]

This is tragic and should obviously not be tolerated.

[Fartsniffage]

The percentage of BME police officers has been increasing year on year for the last 10 years. Perhaps you just don't know the stats.

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... kforce.pdf

Page 26.

As at 31 March 2017, 6% of all officers were Black and Minority Ethnic (BME), the highest proportion since records began.

Yay 6%..

I wonder how many are concentrated in London.. still in the same document Community Police Officers dropped 7.5% in the last year alone.

I see your point but it doesn't refute mine exactly.

And then we still have the issue where groups of people are a-okay with raping people into numbers heading into the thousands. Maybe one of them could say something? Or is there some kind of cultural problem with that?

[Liriena]

Would the members of these sorts of gangs, or at least men in danger of joining them, be applicable for the Prevent strategy the United Kingdom has been using?