UK Rape Gang scandal, up to 1000 victims.

[Mujahidah]

Guys maybe if we all just collectively block Saiwania, he'll just go away, and we'll be free.

[The Lone Alliance]

How is that relevant? We're not talking about Syria.

Because she's pointing out how some people want to blame Syrian refugees for anything so they can push to block them all?

Not a single person in the thread had said that though. Straw is bad.

[Kubumba Tribe]

Guys maybe if we all just collectively block Saiwania, he'll just go away, and we'll be free.

As in not talk to him, or go further and put him on our ignore list?
I'm down with that as long as he doesn't lie about Al-Islam, then I'd have to commit jihad against him.

[Albrenia]

Guys maybe if we all just collectively block Saiwania, he'll just go away, and we'll be free.

As in not talk to him, or go further and put him on our ignore list?
I'm down with that as long as he doesn't lie about Al-Islam, then I'd have to commit jihad against him.

I'm assuming you mean 'argue on the internet' sort of jihad.

[Mujahidah]

Guys maybe if we all just collectively block Saiwania, he'll just go away, and we'll be free.

As in not talk to him, or go further and put him on our ignore list?
I'm down with that as long as he doesn't lie about Al-Islam, then I'd have to commit jihad against him.

Ignore list. That way its out of sight, out of mind. I'm increasingly using that function with people who make me inordinately angry and who I feel are not even worth the trouble of debate.

[Mujahidah]

As in not talk to him, or go further and put him on our ignore list?
I'm down with that as long as he doesn't lie about Al-Islam, then I'd have to commit jihad against him.

I'm assuming you mean 'argue on the internet' sort of jihad.

That was my presumption, yes. Jihad means many, many things - most of which are quite short of violence.

[Kubumba Tribe]

As in not talk to him, or go further and put him on our ignore list?
I'm down with that as long as he doesn't lie about Al-Islam, then I'd have to commit jihad against him.

I'm assuming you mean 'argue on the internet' sort of jihad.

No, I mean "defending my religion against lies is an act of worship" jihad.

[The Lone Alliance]

As in not talk to him, or go further and put him on our ignore list?
I'm down with that as long as he doesn't lie about Al-Islam, then I'd have to commit jihad against him.

Ignore list. That way its out of sight, out of mind. I'm increasingly using that function with people who make me inordinately angry and who I feel are not even worth the trouble of debate.

There's plenty of people here on the site who have no interest in debating and are just here to pick internet fights though.

[Saiwania]

Stop saying "Islam in other countries", the only correct Islam that exists is in the Holy Qur'an and Sunnah. What the Muslim-majority countries have now is nifaaq. And jihad is a part of our religion. And Syria and Iraq have won against ISIS too, why not allow refugees in from there? In fact, why not stop being racist and allow every immigrant in regardless of racial/ethnic background?

There isn't one form of Islam that exists, regardless of how much you wish it were so. Islam is primarily divided into Shia or Sunni nations. There are still fine cultural differences between how Islam is practiced in Saudi Arabia as it is in say, Indonesia. The "external Jihad" part of your religion, I condemn if the reason is only for "conversion by the sword." The solution in those circumstances is for non-Muslims to fight back just as violently in their defense.

[Fartsniffage]

Guys maybe if we all just collectively block Saiwania, he'll just go away, and we'll be free.

As in not talk to him, or go further and put him on our ignore list?
I'm down with that as long as he doesn't lie about Al-Islam, then I'd have to commit jihad against him.

This is an English speaking forum and you speak English. Use English terms to describe things that might be left open to interpretation. This isn't that hard.

Otherwise the moderation team might thing you're trying to skirt rules and that will end badly for you.

[Mujahidah]

As in not talk to him, or go further and put him on our ignore list?
I'm down with that as long as he doesn't lie about Al-Islam, then I'd have to commit jihad against him.

This is an English speaking forum and you speak English. Use English terms to describe things that might be left open to interpretation. This isn't that hard.

Otherwise the moderation team might thing you're trying to skirt rules and that will end badly for you.

I mean jihad is a religious term and Islamic religious terms tend to be in Arabic. To make an analogy, you are basically asking a Catholic to not speak in Latin.

[The Lone Alliance]

You know I notice I'm the only one pointing out the possible class issues behind the victims, cause I have a feel that might also be partly the reason why this keeps happening.

Basically you can talk about the perps but there's a reason why the perps go after the same targets... because they know no one cares about them.

I know that's not as 'fun' as arguing on if it's a culture clash thing or whatever but it's still important.

[Kubumba Tribe]

Stop saying "Islam in other countries", the only correct Islam that exists is in the Holy Qur'an and Sunnah. What the Muslim-majority countries have now is nifaaq. And jihad is a part of our religion. And Syria and Iraq have won against ISIS too, why not allow refugees in from there? In fact, why not stop being racist and allow every immigrant in regardless of racial/ethnic background?

There isn't one form of Islam that exists, regardless of how much you wish it were so. Islam is primarily divided into Shia or Sunni nations. There are still fine cultural differences between how Islam is practiced in Saudi Arabia as it is in say, Indonesia. The "external Jihad" part of your religion, I condemn if the reason is only for "conversion by the sword." The solution in those circumstances is for non-Muslims to fight back just as violently in their defense.

Forcing people to convert to Al-Islam is haram.
And Al-Islam is Al-Islam. In the Holy Qur'an and Sunnah.

[Fartsniffage]

This is an English speaking forum and you speak English. Use English terms to describe things that might be left open to interpretation. This isn't that hard.

Otherwise the moderation team might thing you're trying to skirt rules and that will end badly for you.

I mean jihad is a religious term and Islamic religious terms tend to be in Arabic. To make an analogy, you are basically asking a Catholic to not speak in Latin.

The catholics on this forum don't speak latin.

[Mujahidah]

I mean jihad is a religious term and Islamic religious terms tend to be in Arabic. To make an analogy, you are basically asking a Catholic to not speak in Latin.

The catholics on this forum don't speak latin.

When they refer to religious terms in Catholicism they most certainly do - because many of them are in Latin.

[Fartsniffage]

The catholics on this forum don't speak latin.

When they refer to religious terms in Catholicism they most certainly do - because many of them are in Latin.

Such as?

[Albrenia]

You know I notice I'm the only one pointing out the possible class issues behind the victims, cause I have a feel that might also be partly the reason why this keeps happening.

Basically you can talk about the perps but there's a reason why the perps go after the same targets... because they know no one cares about them.

I know that's not as 'fun' as arguing on if it's a culture clash thing or whatever but it's still important.

Yeah, the first response to someone making a claim of being assaulted shouldn't be 'bah, they're just a prostitute'. Fuck that shit.

Claims of crimes should be investigated.

[Mujahidah]

When they refer to religious terms in Catholicism they most certainly do - because many of them are in Latin.

Such as?

I don't know many off the top of my head. I'm rather obviously not a Catholic, but I've seen it.

Legal terms, as well, are often in Latin.

[Albrenia]

Such as?

I don't know many off the top of my head. I'm rather obviously not a Catholic, but I've seen it.

Legal terms, as well, are often in Latin.

Like Habeus Corpus or however it goes? I agree that can be annoying.

[Fartsniffage]

Such as?

I don't know many off the top of my head. I'm rather obviously not a Catholic, but I've seen it.

Legal terms, as well, are often in Latin.

And stick any of those terms into an English dictionary.

[Saiwania]

Forcing people to convert to Al-Islam is haram. And Al-Islam is Al-Islam. In the Holy Qur'an and Sunnah.

It is nonetheless taken to be valid by Islamic fundamentalists and that is where my concern and suspicion of all things Islam comes from. It represents nothing less than a fifth column waiting for a chance to strike. So I have to crush it. Didn't stop your Prophet or his successors from conquering an empire. Perhaps that wouldn't have been stopped if there wasn't a Spanish Reconquesta or a loss of the Ottoman empire.

[The Lone Alliance]

You know I notice I'm the only one pointing out the possible class issues behind the victims, cause I have a feel that might also be partly the reason why this keeps happening.

Basically you can talk about the perps but there's a reason why the perps go after the same targets... because they know no one cares about them.

I know that's not as 'fun' as arguing on if it's a culture clash thing or whatever but it's still important.

Yeah, the first response to someone making a claim of being assaulted shouldn't be 'bah, they're just a prostitute'. Fuck that shit.

Claims of crimes should be investigated.

It's more an example that some police these days just don't give a fuck anymore at least in portions of the west, you can even argue the supposed anti-white stuff is just the police not giving a damn unless directly ordered too, they were told to care about racism towards Asians so they'll do it... but that's only because they're told too.

Some right wingers are claiming that this town also has "No go" zones as well, really that just reinforces the idea that the police are literally not doing their jobs anymore.

I think in the UK dirt poor white people basically are viewed by the police the same way some American police view poor minorities in the US, which is that by and by they don't matter.

[Bombadil]

Just need to go to Pattaya in Thailand to know this is not strictly a Muslim culture issue, or most embassy districts in cities around the world. Except we don't call them immigrants we call them expats.. and the vast majority don't get involved but some do and westerners can be painted with the same brush.

..or the priest paedophilic issue.. is Christianity inherently that way?

So let's put that one to bed really.

As I noted before it's hard to police closed communities. It might help if the police force was more diverse but that's as much an issue of recruitment as any racism within the police force.

Even if it's not a particularly closed community people don't often speak out.. there's a recent case of a football scout, if not more, in the UK preying on young boys for years. Everyone kind of knew, everyone muttered things about him.. but he was allowed to carry on for years.

The police can complain it's a case of political sensitivities but the key is in community relations and I think that's the specific area that's been cut with budgets.

[Fartsniffage]

Forcing people to convert to Al-Islam is haram. And Al-Islam is Al-Islam. In the Holy Qur'an and Sunnah.

It is nonetheless taken to be valid by Islamic fundamentalists and that is where my concern and suspicion of all things Islam comes from. It represents nothing less than a fifth column waiting for a chance to strike. So I have to crush it. Didn't stop your Prophet or his successors from conquering an empire. Perhaps that wouldn't have been stopped if there wasn't a Spanish Reconquesta or a loss of the Ottoman empire.

They're going to do that by raping teenagers in Telford?

[Bereanda]

This is bad, this is very bad.
And now, who's to say that such a concept is unique?
It's almost as if politics are working to saturate this type of thing to suggest that it only occurs in the "developing" world.
Goddamn, some horrific stats there.
Congratulations, you have officially creeped the shit out of me for today.