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Postby Luminesa » Mon Mar 12, 2018 4:52 pm

Vassenor wrote:
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Why? They tended to be in the last cases. I even knew one of them. Rochdale ring. I worked with him for years sat 6 feet away. We'd been out for meals and drinks on many occasions. Considered him a friend.

One day he just disappeared from work and the managers wouldn't say why. A colleague and I found his court records online about 6 months later. He plead out early as he was just a driver and probably hadn't actually raped anyone and avoided all the media around the trial but still served a couple of years.

So maybe you don't know what you think you know.


But then how will they blame the Syrian refugees and stuff for this?

How is that relevant? We're not talking about Syria.
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Mon Mar 12, 2018 4:53 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
Why? They tended to be in the last cases. I even knew one of them. Rochdale ring. I worked with him for years sat 6 feet away. We'd been out for meals and drinks on many occasions. Considered him a friend.

One day he just disappeared from work and the managers wouldn't say why. A colleague and I found his court records online about 6 months later. He plead out early as he was just a driver and probably hadn't actually raped anyone and avoided all the media around the trial but still served a couple of years.

So maybe you don't know what you think you know.


But then how will they blame the Syrian refugees and stuff for this?

Syrians? Fartsniffage is talkin bout Pakistanis.
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Postby Petrasylvania » Mon Mar 12, 2018 4:54 pm

Luminesa wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
But then how will they blame the Syrian refugees and stuff for this?

How is that relevant? We're not talking about Syria.

Because she's pointing out how some people want to blame Syrian refugees for anything so they can push to block them all?
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Mon Mar 12, 2018 4:55 pm

Luminesa wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
But then how will they blame the Syrian refugees and stuff for this?

How is that relevant? We're not talking about Syria.

Xenophobes usually don't take everything into account.
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Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Mon Mar 12, 2018 4:56 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
Luminesa wrote:How is that relevant? We're not talking about Syria.

Because she's pointing out how some people want to blame Syrian refugees for anything so they can push to block them all?

Cant resist:
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Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Postby Albrenia » Mon Mar 12, 2018 4:57 pm

The whole 'this is why we should mass deport muslims' thing is bullshit, obviously.

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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Mon Mar 12, 2018 4:59 pm

Albrenia wrote:The whole 'this is why we should mass deport muslims' thing is bullshit, obviously.

Duh
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Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Postby Saiwania » Mon Mar 12, 2018 5:01 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:So who are you against, extreme Muslims or Muslims? Because that seems like something right-wingers often get confused over.


I want to carve out an exception for Kurdistan, but exclude most of the rest of the entire Muslim world.
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Postby Vassenor » Mon Mar 12, 2018 5:02 pm

Kubumba Tribe wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
But then how will they blame the Syrian refugees and stuff for this?

Syrians? Fartsniffage is talkin bout Pakistanis.


I know. I'm pointing out how the fact they're Pakistani and legal migrants is problematic for the narrative that gets pushed every single time.
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Postby Petrasylvania » Mon Mar 12, 2018 5:03 pm

Saiwania wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:So who are you against, extreme Muslims or Muslims? Because that seems like something right-wingers often get confused over.


I want to carve out an exception for Kurdistan, but exclude most of the rest of the entire Muslim world.

So build a Zombie Wall for the Muslim World including Asia and Michigan. And don't forget to tell the Rohingya to Suck It and cheer their genocide by the Burmese.
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Crimes committed by Muslims will be proof of a pan-Islamic plot and Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand, crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of mentally ill lone wolves who do not represent their professed belief system at all.
The probability of someone secretly participating in homosexual acts is directly proportional to the frequency and loudness of their publicly professed disapproval and/or disgust for homosexuality.
If Donald Trump accuses an individual of malfeasance without evidence, it is almost a certainty either he or someone associated with him has in fact committed that very same malfeasance to a greater degree.

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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Mon Mar 12, 2018 5:04 pm

Saiwania wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:So who are you against, extreme Muslims or Muslims? Because that seems like something right-wingers often get confused over.


I want to carve out an exception for Kurdistan, but exclude most of the rest of the entire Muslim world.

So you're against Muslims regardless of our character, except Kurdish Muslims because...they're Kurdish?
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Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Postby Albrenia » Mon Mar 12, 2018 5:04 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
Saiwania wrote:
I want to carve out an exception for Kurdistan, but exclude most of the rest of the entire Muslim world.

So build a Zombie Wall for the Muslim World including Asia and Michigan.


Wait, Michigan is part of the Muslim World?

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Postby Petrasylvania » Mon Mar 12, 2018 5:06 pm

Albrenia wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:So build a Zombie Wall for the Muslim World including Asia and Michigan.


Wait, Michigan is part of the Muslim World?

Large Muslim population, perhaps the largest in the U.S. Obviously a jihadi hotbed, Michigan is. Must be all the Flint Water.
Crimes committed by Muslims will be proof of a pan-Islamic plot and Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand, crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of mentally ill lone wolves who do not represent their professed belief system at all.
The probability of someone secretly participating in homosexual acts is directly proportional to the frequency and loudness of their publicly professed disapproval and/or disgust for homosexuality.
If Donald Trump accuses an individual of malfeasance without evidence, it is almost a certainty either he or someone associated with him has in fact committed that very same malfeasance to a greater degree.

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Postby Albrenia » Mon Mar 12, 2018 5:07 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
Albrenia wrote:
Wait, Michigan is part of the Muslim World?

Large Muslim population, perhaps the largest in the U.S. Obviously a jihadi hotbed, Michigan is. Must be all the Flint Water.


Zombie Wall for them then, I guess, if some people get their way.

Then again a Zombie Wall sounds pretty cool. Is it a wall to stop zombies, or a wall made of zombies?

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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Mon Mar 12, 2018 5:08 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
Albrenia wrote:
Wait, Michigan is part of the Muslim World?

Large Muslim population, perhaps the largest in the U.S. Obviously a jihadi hotbed, Michigan is. Must be all the Flint Water.

Forget water turning the frogs gay, that flint water's turning all the Muzzies into 'jihadis'!
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Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Postby Fartsniffage » Mon Mar 12, 2018 5:08 pm

British town...mass rape...anyone remember that?

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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Mon Mar 12, 2018 5:09 pm

Brb insha-Allah, try make Maghrib prayer.
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Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Postby Albrenia » Mon Mar 12, 2018 5:10 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:British town...mass rape...anyone remember that?


I'm trying not to, to be honest.

On the grim topic, here's hoping that authorities do their fucking jobs and hunt down those responsible instead of worrying what the mean SJWs will say about them if they do their jobs.

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Postby Saiwania » Mon Mar 12, 2018 5:13 pm

Kubumba Tribe wrote:So you're against Muslims regardless of our character, except Kurdish Muslims because...they're Kurdish?


Kurds are the only major Muslim group that impress me, because they're so committed to an "Islam in one country" concept. I definitely want them to win independence in Syria or Iraq or both. They have such a record of heroism against Islamic State. I've looked at Islam in other Muslim countries and I don't like it one bit, for the most part- because it has an international Jihad component to it where Islam tries to spread via propaganda or all manner of warfare against non-Muslims, including terrorism.
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Postby Petrasylvania » Mon Mar 12, 2018 5:14 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:So you're against Muslims regardless of our character, except Kurdish Muslims because...they're Kurdish?


Kurds are the only major Muslim group that impress me, because they're so committed to an "Islam in one country" concept. I definitely want them to win independence in Syria or Iraq or both. They have such a record of heroism against Islamic State. I've looked at Islam in other Muslim countries and I don't like it one bit, for the most part- because it has an international Jihad component to it where Islam tries to spread via propaganda or all manner of warfare including terrorism.

So send the Rohingya back to Myanmar and laugh at the genocide?
Crimes committed by Muslims will be proof of a pan-Islamic plot and Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand, crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of mentally ill lone wolves who do not represent their professed belief system at all.
The probability of someone secretly participating in homosexual acts is directly proportional to the frequency and loudness of their publicly professed disapproval and/or disgust for homosexuality.
If Donald Trump accuses an individual of malfeasance without evidence, it is almost a certainty either he or someone associated with him has in fact committed that very same malfeasance to a greater degree.

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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Mon Mar 12, 2018 5:15 pm

Kubumba Tribe wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:Large Muslim population, perhaps the largest in the U.S. Obviously a jihadi hotbed, Michigan is. Must be all the Flint Water.

Forget water turning the frogs gay, that flint water's turning all the Muzzies into 'jihadis'!

I thought about what this post says, and I'm sorry if the joke is insensitive.
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Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Postby Albrenia » Mon Mar 12, 2018 5:16 pm

Kubumba Tribe wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:Forget water turning the frogs gay, that flint water's turning all the Muzzies into 'jihadis'!

I thought about what this post says, and I'm sorry if the joke is insensitive.


I'm sure the frogs understand what you meant.

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Postby Saiwania » Mon Mar 12, 2018 5:17 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:So send the Rohingya back to Myanmar and laugh at the genocide?


I don't know enough about their situation to comment on that. But I'm in no rush to open the doors just because X group is currently suffering. Give me a break. It is like saying we should let in North Koreans because their nation is so poor or tyrannical, but that isn't our problem.
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Mon Mar 12, 2018 5:27 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:So you're against Muslims regardless of our character, except Kurdish Muslims because...they're Kurdish?


Kurds are the only major Muslim group that impress me, because they're so committed to an "Islam in one country" concept. I definitely want them to win independence in Syria or Iraq or both. They have such a record of heroism against Islamic State. I've looked at Islam in other Muslim countries and I don't like it one bit, for the most part- because it has an international Jihad component to it where Islam tries to spread via propaganda or all manner of warfare against non-Muslims, including terrorism.

Stop saying "Islam in other countries", the only correct Islam that exists is in the Holy Qur'an and Sunnah. What the Muslim-majority countries have now is nifaaq. And jihad is a part of our religion. And Syria and Iraq have won against ISIS too, why not allow refugees in from there? In fact, why not stop being racist and allow every immigrant in regardless of racial/ethnic background?
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I'm a New Afrikan Muslim :) https://www.16personalities.com/isfj-personality Sister nation of El-Amin Caliphate
Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Mon Mar 12, 2018 5:28 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:So send the Rohingya back to Myanmar and laugh at the genocide?


I don't know enough about their situation to comment on that. But I'm in no rush to open the doors just because X group is currently suffering. Give me a break. It is like saying we should let in North Koreans because their nation is so poor or tyrannical, but that isn't our problem.

Yes, we should.
And the Rohingya are being genocided.
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Anti: US gov--West gov--Capitalism--Imperialism/Colonialism--Racism/White Supremacy--Secularism getting into everything--Western 'intervention' in the East--Zionism--etc.
I'm a New Afrikan Muslim :) https://www.16personalities.com/isfj-personality Sister nation of El-Amin Caliphate
Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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