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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Wed Mar 07, 2018 4:12 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
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Saddam gets it^


And do what?


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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed Mar 07, 2018 4:13 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Saddam gets it^


And do what?


Blow up some of their pipelines, have some of Putins oligarch buddies shoot themselves several times in the chest in an odd string of suicides etc etc.
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Postby The Federation of Kendor » Wed Mar 07, 2018 4:14 pm

TURTLESHROOM II wrote:The man betrayed his country and paid the price. Good riddance.

While I'd prefer that he would be sentenced to death or life in prison by a fair and impartial trial, you can't expect any form of due process from a country as corrupt as Russia. It's Russia, after all . If the same thing had happened to Bradley Manning or Berghdal (though Berghdal didn't betray his country), I wouldn't shed a tear, but again, a fair trial is always the best way to deal with traitors, without exception.

So, people don't deserve to know secret informations from the government, like what Chelsea Manning did, and that those who called the state hiding secrets from them untransparent and authoritarian are also fools
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Postby The Lone Alliance » Wed Mar 07, 2018 4:17 pm

Not very surprised, though why wait so long to kill him, did they have some nerve agent assassination weapons lying around and it was "Use it or lose it?"
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Postby Fartsniffage » Wed Mar 07, 2018 4:17 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
And do what?


Blow up some of their pipelines, have some of Putins oligarch buddies shoot themselves several times in the chest in an odd string of suicides etc etc.


Yeah, about the pipelines. Maybe wait until summer for Eastern Europe doesn't freeze to death?

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed Mar 07, 2018 4:19 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Blow up some of their pipelines, have some of Putins oligarch buddies shoot themselves several times in the chest in an odd string of suicides etc etc.


Yeah, about the pipelines. Maybe wait until summer for Eastern Europe doesn't freeze to death?


Don't be silly, we can just give out Elon Musk approved sci-fi tech to help the people.
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Postby Petrasylvania » Wed Mar 07, 2018 4:20 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Saddam gets it^


And do what?

And Good Luck getting Putin's Lotion Boy Donald Trump to get tough with Ivan.
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Postby Annihitor the Incred » Wed Mar 07, 2018 4:21 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
Yeah, about the pipelines. Maybe wait until summer for Eastern Europe doesn't freeze to death?


Don't be silly, we can just give out Elon Musk approved sci-fi tech to help the people.

Special Circumstances engineering democratization in Russia, when?
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Postby Ethel mermania » Wed Mar 07, 2018 4:22 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Saddam gets it^


And do what?


tit for tat. sorry to say.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Wed Mar 07, 2018 4:27 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
And do what?


tit for tat. sorry to say.


Kinda seems like punishing one person for the crimes of another.

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Postby Baltenstein » Wed Mar 07, 2018 4:27 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
It's more than just them 3. I linked this earlier.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-43299598

Oh yes, I remember the spy that was found dead in a bag in his apartment, Gareth Williams. A forensic scientist said it was his opinion that an expert in the "dark side of forensics" cleaned his apartment, because the crime scene was so forensically clean. The bag was also sealed from the outside-


What a tragic way to end one's own life. :(
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Postby Mujahidah » Wed Mar 07, 2018 4:28 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Saddam gets it^


And do what?


We can start by actually enforcing the sanctions that Congress passed (and Trump refuses to put in place).
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Postby Baltenstein » Wed Mar 07, 2018 4:31 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:
tit for tat. sorry to say.


Kinda seems like punishing one person for the crimes of another.


We could call it "Operation: Crime & Punishment".

Get it? Because Dostoyevsky was Russian and the novel takes place in Russia!
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Postby Ethel mermania » Wed Mar 07, 2018 4:31 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:
tit for tat. sorry to say.


Kinda seems like punishing one person for the crimes of another.


when you shoot a soldier on the other side in a war, they generally are not the fellow who started it.

To take our lovely ms chapman from earlier, she played the game, , she was in the trade for this fellow. when russia renegs on the deal she becomes a legitimate target.
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Postby Petrasylvania » Wed Mar 07, 2018 4:31 pm

Mujahidah wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
And do what?


We can start by actually enforcing the sanctions that Congress passed (and Trump refuses to put in place).

The hardest part is getting Donnie to stop rubbing skin care products on Putin sempai's bare chest and start enforcing the sanctions as well as other measures.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Wed Mar 07, 2018 4:35 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
Kinda seems like punishing one person for the crimes of another.


when you shoot a soldier on the other side in a war, they generally are not the fellow who started it. to take our lovely ms chapman from earlier, she played the game, , she was in the trade for this fellow when russia renegs on the deal she becomes a legitimate target.


I think I prefer the Ryan Doctrine.

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Postby Ethel mermania » Wed Mar 07, 2018 4:37 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:
when you shoot a soldier on the other side in a war, they generally are not the fellow who started it. to take our lovely ms chapman from earlier, she played the game, , she was in the trade for this fellow when russia renegs on the deal she becomes a legitimate target.


I think I prefer the Ryan Doctrine.


i am not quite sure what that is, and how it would apply.
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Postby Benuty » Wed Mar 07, 2018 4:37 pm

I guess the classic polonium 210 soup cocktail is out of fashion this assassination season?
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Postby Mujahidah » Wed Mar 07, 2018 4:39 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
Mujahidah wrote:
We can start by actually enforcing the sanctions that Congress passed (and Trump refuses to put in place).

The hardest part is getting Donnie to stop rubbing skin care products on Putin sempai's bare chest and start enforcing the sanctions as well as other measures.


That isn't an image I needed in my head....
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Postby Fartsniffage » Wed Mar 07, 2018 4:40 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
I think I prefer the Ryan Doctrine.


i am not quite sure what that is, and how it would apply.


Jack Ryan from the Clancy novels. As president he decided to treat foreign leaders the same as mob bosses. They order it then it's on them and they are punished accordingly.

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Postby Mujahidah » Wed Mar 07, 2018 4:45 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:
i am not quite sure what that is, and how it would apply.


Jack Ryan from the Clancy novels. As president he decided to treat foreign leaders the same as mob bosses. They order it then it's on them and they are punished accordingly.


Somehow I don't feel that would quite work in real life.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Wed Mar 07, 2018 4:46 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:
i am not quite sure what that is, and how it would apply.


Jack Ryan from the Clancy novels. As president he decided to treat foreign leaders the same as mob bosses. They order it then it's on them and they are punished accordingly.


as satisfying as that may be,
i would rather not start world war 3
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Postby Fartsniffage » Wed Mar 07, 2018 4:49 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
Jack Ryan from the Clancy novels. As president he decided to treat foreign leaders the same as mob bosses. They order it then it's on them and they are punished accordingly.


as satisfying as that may be,
i would rather not start world war 3


The offing of random ex-spies won't do anything either. The Russians are not exactly well known for their giving a shit about human life.

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Postby Conserative Morality » Wed Mar 07, 2018 4:50 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
Jack Ryan from the Clancy novels. As president he decided to treat foreign leaders the same as mob bosses. They order it then it's on them and they are punished accordingly.


as satisfying as that may be,
i would rather not start world war 3

Gonna start sometime. Might as well get it over with.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Wed Mar 07, 2018 4:58 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:
as satisfying as that may be,
i would rather not start world war 3


The offing of random ex-spies won't do anything either. The Russians are not exactly well known for their giving a shit about human life.


you haven't seen anna
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