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What stance do you take on immigration?

1 - Full open borders. Sweden's Feminist Initiative model. Which involves doing all one can to prevent deportation of even alien criminal elements as they remain the responsibility of the country they find themselves in.
52
6%
2 - Full open borders with border security, checks and potential for deportation of harsher criminal immigrant elements. Multicultural model.
126
15%
3 - Full open borders with border security, checks and potential for deportation of harsher criminal immigrant elements. Melting-pot model.
176
22%
4 - Limited open borders that sets priories solely on the nations labour requirements.
72
9%
5 - Limited open borders that prioritises only high skilled labour. Multicultural model.
35
4%
6 - Limited open borders that prioritises only high skilled labour. Melting-pot model.
204
25%
7 - Closed borders. Only temporary green-cards, tourism and visas. No other forms of citizenship.
76
9%
8 - Fully closed borders.
36
4%
9 - Fully closed borders. No legal emigration.
39
5%
 
Total votes : 816

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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Fri Mar 23, 2018 2:05 pm

Questers wrote:If you beat your spouse you are a buffoon.

Yes.
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Postby Sovaal » Fri Mar 23, 2018 2:06 pm

Albrenia wrote:
Old Tyrannia wrote:From Wikipedia:

Letting people believe what they want? God forbid.


Most Gods did forbid that. Well, most monotheistic ones anyway.

Well if God is tired of people worshippping wrongly he has every opportunity to come down here himself.
Most of the time I have no idea what the hell I'm doing or talking about.

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No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is
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Winston Churchill, 1947.

"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell

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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Fri Mar 23, 2018 2:06 pm

Sovaal wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Of course. What I'm talking about is a last resort.

“Last resort”.

You’re not exactly helping your position here.

Defending and explaining Al-Islam is helping my position.
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Postby Blanco-Campeon » Fri Mar 23, 2018 2:06 pm

Sovaal wrote:
Albrenia wrote:
Most Gods did forbid that. Well, most monotheistic ones anyway.

Well if God is tired of people worshippping wrongly he has every opportunity to come down here himself.

yeah about that
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Postby Questers » Fri Mar 23, 2018 2:06 pm

If you have to hit your wife with a siwak, you're also a buffoon.
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Postby Great Kauthar » Fri Mar 23, 2018 2:07 pm

Blanco-Campeon wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Of course. What I'm talking about is a last resort.

>last resort

"you see! I was all out of options! She was begging for the toothbrush!"

It's justified by islamic law
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri Mar 23, 2018 2:07 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Sovaal wrote:“Last resort”.

You’re not exactly helping your position here.

Defending and explaining Al-Islam is helping my position.


It's really not, I know more than a few regulars on NSG have become evil islamophobes thanks to some of the Muslim users we've had here over the past years.
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Postby Albrenia » Fri Mar 23, 2018 2:08 pm

Sovaal wrote:
Albrenia wrote:
Most Gods did forbid that. Well, most monotheistic ones anyway.

Well if God is tired of people worshippping wrongly he has every opportunity to come down here himself.


I'm figuring he's like a parent driving a car at this point, he can say "Don't make me turn this car around!" as much as he likes, but he's too lazy to do it and the kids know it.

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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Fri Mar 23, 2018 2:08 pm

Great Kauthar wrote:
Blanco-Campeon wrote:>last resort

"you see! I was all out of options! She was begging for the toothbrush!"

It's justified by islamic law

That made me laugh.
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I'm a (Pan) Islamist ;)
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Postby Mujahidah » Fri Mar 23, 2018 2:09 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Sovaal wrote:“Last resort”.

You’re not exactly helping your position here.

Defending and explaining Al-Islam is helping my position.


Then why dont you define "last resort?"
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Postby Sovaal » Fri Mar 23, 2018 2:09 pm

Albrenia wrote:
Sovaal wrote:Well if God is tired of people worshippping wrongly he has every opportunity to come down here himself.


I'm figuring he's like a parent driving a car at this point, he can say "Don't make me turn this car around!" as much as he likes, but he's too lazy to do it and the kids know it.

I don’t know, I’m starting to feel like we’re more The college kids who go out of state only for the parents to take their car away.
Most of the time I have no idea what the hell I'm doing or talking about.

”Many forms of government have been tried and will be tried in this world of sin and woe.
No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is
the worst form of government, except for all the others that have been tried from time to time." -
Winston Churchill, 1947.

"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell

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Postby Mujahidah » Fri Mar 23, 2018 2:10 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Defending and explaining Al-Islam is helping my position.


It's really not, I know more than a few regulars on NSG have become evil islamophobes thanks to some of the Muslim users we've had here over the past years.


Such a shame :(
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Northern Davincia wrote:Can we engrave this in a plaque?
The Parkus Empire wrote:I am not sure I'm entirely comfortable with a woman being this well informed, but I'll try not to judge.
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Postby Reikoku » Fri Mar 23, 2018 2:10 pm

Sovaal wrote:
Albrenia wrote:
Most Gods did forbid that. Well, most monotheistic ones anyway.

Well if God is tired of people worshippping wrongly he has every opportunity to come down here himself.


Perhaps the Lord is much more laid back than his followers believe? :p

It wouldn't surprise me.

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Postby Taihei Tengoku » Fri Mar 23, 2018 2:11 pm

Questers wrote:If you have to hit your wife with a siwak, you're also a buffoon.

administer a non-punitive, informal, verbal counseling on conjugal standards
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri Mar 23, 2018 2:11 pm

Mujahidah wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
It's really not, I know more than a few regulars on NSG have become evil islamophobes thanks to some of the Muslim users we've had here over the past years.


Such a shame :(


Tbqh apart from you and UIC there haven't been a ton of great Muslim users.

Shit, if I'm not mistaken we've even had legit AQ and Daesh supporters in the past.
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Postby Salus Maior » Fri Mar 23, 2018 2:12 pm

Sovaal wrote:
Albrenia wrote:
Most Gods did forbid that. Well, most monotheistic ones anyway.

Well if God is tired of people worshippping wrongly he has every opportunity to come down here himself.


Image
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Postby Mujahidah » Fri Mar 23, 2018 2:13 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Mujahidah wrote:
Such a shame :(


Tbqh apart from you and UIC there haven't been a ton of great Muslim users.

Shit, if I'm not mistaken we've even had legit AQ and Daesh supporters in the past.


If I'm recalling from my lurking days, Ghuraba Al-Khorusani (if im spelling it right) legit supported Al-Qaeda
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The Parkus Empire wrote:I am not sure I'm entirely comfortable with a woman being this well informed, but I'll try not to judge.
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Postby Benuty » Fri Mar 23, 2018 2:13 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Mujahidah wrote:
Such a shame :(


Tbqh apart from you and UIC there haven't been a ton of great Muslim users.

Shit, if I'm not mistaken we've even had legit AQ and Daesh supporters in the past.

We actually did until the April holocaust purged a few of them if I recall.
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Postby Taihei Tengoku » Fri Mar 23, 2018 2:13 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Mujahidah wrote:
Such a shame :(


Tbqh apart from you and UIC there haven't been a ton of great Muslim users.

Shit, if I'm not mistaken we've even had legit AQ and Daesh supporters in the past.

Shurjah is literally the greatest poster in the history of this shitty site
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Postby Old Tyrannia » Fri Mar 23, 2018 2:13 pm

Sovaal wrote:
Albrenia wrote:
Most Gods did forbid that. Well, most monotheistic ones anyway.

Well if God is tired of people worshippping wrongly he has every opportunity to come down here himself.

Firstly, God did come down here and tell us how we should worship. Secondly, He gave humanity free will, and thus the ability to choose what to believe.
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Postby Benuty » Fri Mar 23, 2018 2:14 pm

Taihei Tengoku wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Tbqh apart from you and UIC there haven't been a ton of great Muslim users.

Shit, if I'm not mistaken we've even had legit AQ and Daesh supporters in the past.

Shurjah is literally the greatest poster in the history of this shitty site

A bold claim to make.
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Postby Sovaal » Fri Mar 23, 2018 2:14 pm

Salus Maior wrote:
Sovaal wrote:Well if God is tired of people worshippping wrongly he has every opportunity to come down here himself.


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I’m talking end of days stuff. Anyway, Jesus didn’t make all the heathens go away, if anything their are more now.
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”Many forms of government have been tried and will be tried in this world of sin and woe.
No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is
the worst form of government, except for all the others that have been tried from time to time." -
Winston Churchill, 1947.

"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell

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Postby Mujahidah » Fri Mar 23, 2018 2:15 pm

Old Tyrannia wrote:
Sovaal wrote:Well if God is tired of people worshippping wrongly he has every opportunity to come down here himself.

Firstly, God did come down here and tell us how we should worship. Secondly, He gave humanity free will, and thus the ability to choose what to believe.


Isa (PBUH) was not God.
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The Parkus Empire wrote:To paraphrase my hero, Richard Nixon: she's pink right down to her hijab.
The Parkus Empire wrote:I misjudged you, you are much more smarter than I gave you credit for.
Northern Davincia wrote:Can we engrave this in a plaque?
The Parkus Empire wrote:I am not sure I'm entirely comfortable with a woman being this well informed, but I'll try not to judge.
The Parkus Empire wrote:Ah, m'lady, if I were a heathen I'd wed thee four times

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Postby Sovaal » Fri Mar 23, 2018 2:16 pm

Old Tyrannia wrote:
Sovaal wrote:Well if God is tired of people worshippping wrongly he has every opportunity to come down here himself.

Firstly, God did come down here and tell us how we should worship. Secondly, He gave humanity free will, and thus the ability to choose what to believe.

Yes yes yes I’m well aware of Jesus. Still, every religion, every sect, or at least the Abrahamic ones, claim that they are the true religion. They can’t all be right.
Most of the time I have no idea what the hell I'm doing or talking about.

”Many forms of government have been tried and will be tried in this world of sin and woe.
No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is
the worst form of government, except for all the others that have been tried from time to time." -
Winston Churchill, 1947.

"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell

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Postby Albrenia » Fri Mar 23, 2018 2:16 pm

Old Tyrannia wrote:
Sovaal wrote:Well if God is tired of people worshippping wrongly he has every opportunity to come down here himself.

Firstly, God did come down here and tell us how we should worship. Secondly, He gave humanity free will, and thus the ability to choose what to believe.


Humans tend to die off though, so we might need regular meet-ups just so we're not all just taking the word of distant ancestors for it.

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