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What stance do you take on immigration?

1 - Full open borders. Sweden's Feminist Initiative model. Which involves doing all one can to prevent deportation of even alien criminal elements as they remain the responsibility of the country they find themselves in.
52
6%
2 - Full open borders with border security, checks and potential for deportation of harsher criminal immigrant elements. Multicultural model.
126
15%
3 - Full open borders with border security, checks and potential for deportation of harsher criminal immigrant elements. Melting-pot model.
176
22%
4 - Limited open borders that sets priories solely on the nations labour requirements.
72
9%
5 - Limited open borders that prioritises only high skilled labour. Multicultural model.
35
4%
6 - Limited open borders that prioritises only high skilled labour. Melting-pot model.
204
25%
7 - Closed borders. Only temporary green-cards, tourism and visas. No other forms of citizenship.
76
9%
8 - Fully closed borders.
36
4%
9 - Fully closed borders. No legal emigration.
39
5%
 
Total votes : 816

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Postby Sovaal » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:05 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:There's only 3 mil Muslims in the US, state enforcement of Shari'ah won't be happening anytime soon.

It won't be happening ever on my watch

Uh huh, I’ll sleep soundly at night knowing now that Parkus is keeping us safe.
Most of the time I have no idea what the hell I'm doing or talking about.

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:06 pm

Mujahidah wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:allowing men to assault their wives if I'm not mistaken


He argued for that? :shock:


I'm just working off of memory so I'll admit I might be wrong but I very strongly remember him saying it's allowed under Shariah to hit your wife for whatever reason but he tried to downplay it and say it's supposed to be light hits or some idiotic shit.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:07 pm

Anyone interested in a prophecy concerning the Supreme Court, see the antifederalist letters of "Brutus", XI and XII (1788)
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Postby Mujahidah » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:07 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Mujahidah wrote:
He argued for that? :shock:


I'm just working off of memory so I'll admit I might be wrong but I very strongly remember him saying it's allowed under Shariah to hit your wife for whatever reason but he tried to downplay it and say it's supposed to be light hits or some idiotic shit.


I guess I'll just have to wait and see if he explains himself.
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Postby Constaniana » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:08 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Mujahidah wrote:
He argued for that? :shock:


I'm just working off of memory so I'll admit I might be wrong but I very strongly remember him saying it's allowed under Shariah to hit your wife for whatever reason but he tried to downplay it and say it's supposed to be light hits or some idiotic shit.

It's reverse tsundere action. /s
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:09 pm

Sovaal wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:It won't be happening ever on my watch

Uh huh, I’ll sleep soundly at night knowing now that Parkus is keeping us safe.

On the internet at least
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:12 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:There's only 3 mil Muslims in the US, state enforcement of Shari'ah won't be happening anytime soon.


No, we just need to get to the point of Britain, where your lobby having made common cause with the progressives can get it to influence civil law.

If so, and if it's according to the Holy Qur'an and Sunnah, AlHamdulillah.
The East Marches II wrote:Thats not a good thing to be calling people

The Archregimancy wrote:Mod who used to live in Dubai and has some familiarity with both Arabic and Islam pops in...

Languages with triconsonant clusters do often present difficulties to those unfamiliar with the different forms of the root; here we're having problems with the k-f-r root (literally 'to cover', or more loosely 'to hide')

United Islamic Commonwealth is correct that kufr/كفر is simply 'disbelief' or religious denial; there is no pejorative sense here, and the word is not actionable. Because of this, I'm going to recommend to the rest of the team that we revisit this ban. I can't do this unilaterally, but please stay tuned.



However, I refer everyone to these earlier moderation rulings on the use of kafir/كافر‎ and the plural form kuffar/كفّار:

viewtopic.php?p=28445584#p28445584
viewtopic.php?p=32557723#p32557723

We do not ban the use of 'kafir'; it isn't inherently actionable. But you must make it clear that you're using it in the strict Koranic sense rather than in the modern colloquial Arabic sense. You can't expect non-Arabic speakers to be able to distinguish between the two without clear context being offered.

شكرا

Also, a kafir is a disbeliever is a kafir.
Mujahidah wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:allowing men to assault their wives if I'm not mistaken


He argued for that? :shock:

Never have I said such.
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Kubumba Tribe wrote:This guy gets it

I’ll pass.

It's not like Shari'ah should/would be enforced on you.
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:12 pm

For those interested, the DJIA is now only up about 100pts from where it was at Trump's election.
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Postby Genivaria » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:13 pm

Kubumba Tribe wrote:
Genivaria wrote:"It's not really this horrible thing you think it is."
-presents something horrible.

To a kafir who thinks he/she knows more than Allah (SWT), it is.
http://legacy.quran.com/23/66-67

Sorry is this supposed to actually be an argument?

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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:14 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:For those interested, the DJIA is now only up about 100pts from where it was at Trump's election.

What's DJIA?
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Postby Mujahidah » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:14 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:For those interested, the DJIA is now only up about 100pts from where it was at Trump's election.

What's DJIA?


Dow Jones Industrial Average
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:15 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:For those interested, the DJIA is now only up about 100pts from where it was at Trump's election.

What's DJIA?

Dow Jones Industrial Average.
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Postby The East Marches II » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:15 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:For those interested, the DJIA is now only up about 100pts from where it was at Trump's election.


Tell me Chairman Xi, was this part of your master plan?

>when the Lockheed stock price still up by nearly 30%

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Postby Constaniana » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:17 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:For those interested, the DJIA is now only up about 100pts from where it was at Trump's election.

How far up had it gone over the past year and a half?
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Postby Sovaal » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:19 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Sovaal wrote:[quote="It's not like Shari'ah should/would be enforced on you.

Uh huh, or, or, I could choose not to trust any theocratic state because they go against every thing I believe, be They Christian, Muslim, Jewish, Hindi, etc. Yah, I’m going with the second option.
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Winston Churchill, 1947.

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Postby Mujahidah » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:20 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Mujahidah wrote:
He argued for that? :shock:

Never have I said such.


I think I see where WRA got the perception:

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:I'll do this in a True (T)/False (F) manner, the question setting makes me wanna do that.
Des-Bal wrote:Islam prescribes the following:
1. Women are supposed to be submissive.

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Des-Bal wrote:2. Men are supposed to tell women to be submissive.

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Des-Bal wrote:3. Men are supposed to punish women for not being submissive.

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Des-Bal wrote:4. These punishments are supposed to include physically hitting them.

T, for disobedience, not unsubmissiveness.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:22 pm

Mujahidah wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Never have I said such.


I think I see where WRA got the perception:

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:I'll do this in a True (T)/False (F) manner, the question setting makes me wanna do that.

F

F

F

T, for disobedience, not unsubmissiveness.


That's one of them, yeah. I think there was one or two others but either way that is an atrocious thing to believe.
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Postby Mujahidah » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:23 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Mujahidah wrote:
I think I see where WRA got the perception:



That's one of them, yeah. I think there was one or two others but either way that is an atrocious thing to believe.


That was excerpted from a larger conversation.
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The Parkus Empire wrote:I am not sure I'm entirely comfortable with a woman being this well informed, but I'll try not to judge.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:24 pm

Kafir is just like heathen or goy
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Postby Blanco-Campeon » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:24 pm

Mujahidah wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Never have I said such.


I think I see where WRA got the perception:

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:I'll do this in a True (T)/False (F) manner, the question setting makes me wanna do that.

F

F

F

T, for disobedience, not unsubmissiveness.

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Postby Questers » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:24 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:There's only 3 mil Muslims in the US, state enforcement of Shari'ah won't be happening anytime soon.


No, we just need to get to the point of Britain, where your lobby having made common cause with the progressives can get it to influence civil law. Its bad enough the Jews get some treatment of that nature.

Kubumba Tribe wrote:To a kafir who thinks he/she knows more than Allah (SWT), it is.
http://legacy.quran.com/23/66-67


Thats not a good thing to be calling people
There is no Islamic influence on law in Britain.
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:25 pm

Mujahidah wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Never have I said such.


I think I see where WRA got the perception:

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:I'll do this in a True (T)/False (F) manner, the question setting makes me wanna do that.

F

F

F

T, for disobedience, not unsubmissiveness.

Yeah, and I gave about 1 or 2 Islamic sources explaining it.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:25 pm

Mujahidah wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
That's one of them, yeah. I think there was one or two others but either way that is an atrocious thing to believe.


That was excerpted from a larger conversation.


Indeed it was, I remember the thread now. Either way he says it's true that women are to be physically hit for "disobedience".

Fuck everything about that nonsense. Shariah law should die in a fire.
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:26 pm

Questers wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:
No, we just need to get to the point of Britain, where your lobby having made common cause with the progressives can get it to influence civil law. Its bad enough the Jews get some treatment of that nature.



Thats not a good thing to be calling people
There is no Islamic influence on law in Britain.

Um...there shouldn't be? I never supported that.
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Postby The East Marches II » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:26 pm

Questers wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:
No, we just need to get to the point of Britain, where your lobby having made common cause with the progressives can get it to influence civil law. Its bad enough the Jews get some treatment of that nature.



Thats not a good thing to be calling people
There is no Islamic influence on law in Britain.


That is not what your chief of trainers for judges is saying should be done. It should be taken into account in civil law from what I read in the Financial Times or something like that.

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