Right because you’ll just train up some soldiers in a few days to repell any invasion. Like that will work. Let me tell you something the real world isn’t something the real world ain’t some HOI4 game
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by Thermodolia » Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:18 pm
by Thermodolia » Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:20 pm
by The Parkus Empire » Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:21 pm
by The Parkus Empire » Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:22 pm
Thermodolia wrote:The Parkus Empire wrote:I think standing armies had nothing to do with that, since you can still raise armies in time of need. Standing armies did make fascism possible though
Not effectively. Not in this day and age. This isn’t the 1800’s anymore. We need a standing army because people are less likely to fight now than they where 100 years ago. The times have changed and your ideology is stuck in the long dead past
by Genivaria » Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:23 pm
The Parkus Empire wrote:Thermodolia wrote:Right because you’ll just train up some soldiers in a few days to repell any invasion. Like that will work. Let me tell you something the real world isn’t something the real world ain’t some HOI4 game
Guerilla militias are shockingly effective, and in this country I am positive no one could conquer us.
by Salus Maior » Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:24 pm
by Genivaria » Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:25 pm
by Genivaria » Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:27 pm
by The Parkus Empire » Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:27 pm
Genivaria wrote:Thermodolia wrote:Right because you’ll just train up some soldiers in a few days to repell any invasion. Like that will work. Let me tell you something the real world isn’t something the real world ain’t some HOI4 game
Actually even in HOI4 a division that is hastily deployed might be so under-equipped and undermanned that while it might be in the field it's functionally useless.The Parkus Empire wrote:Guerilla militias are shockingly effective, and in this country I am positive no one could conquer us.
Guerilla warfare is only really effective in combination with other standing forces, and you'd be wrong on the latter point.
by Conserative Morality » Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:27 pm
by Salus Maior » Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:27 pm
Genivaria wrote:Salus Maior wrote:
That's not an unusual concept historically speaking. Many barbarian tribals fought Rome so that they could have a chunk of territory within Imperial boundaries. Like the Goths.
Historically speaking it's not unusual no, theologically speaking it's still kind of odd since Egypt was portrayed as the land of decadence and slavery and God's Chosen People were on a mission to escape it.
by Genivaria » Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:28 pm
The Parkus Empire wrote:Genivaria wrote:Actually even in HOI4 a division that is hastily deployed might be so under-equipped and undermanned that while it might be in the field it's functionally useless.
Guerilla warfare is only really effective in combination with other standing forces, and you'd be wrong on the latter point.
No country could occupy us, it would be unbearable. We don't need standing armies. We have national guard (which includes armored units and special forces).
by The Parkus Empire » Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:31 pm
Genivaria wrote:Salus Maior wrote:
That's not an unusual concept historically speaking. Many barbarian tribals fought Rome so that they could have a chunk of territory within Imperial boundaries. Like the Goths.
Historically speaking it's not unusual no, theologically speaking it's still kind of odd since Egypt was portrayed as the land of decadence and slavery and God's Chosen People were on a mission to escape it.
by Thermodolia » Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:31 pm
Genivaria wrote:I feel I should point out that contrary to popular belief the single greatest obstacle for anyone planning to occupy the continental United States is not American gun owners, it is the Pacific and Atlantic Oceans and the motherfucking United States Navy.
by Salus Maior » Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:32 pm
The Parkus Empire wrote:Genivaria wrote:Historically speaking it's not unusual no, theologically speaking it's still kind of odd since Egypt was portrayed as the land of decadence and slavery and God's Chosen People were on a mission to escape it.
Not really. Egypt was heathen, but other heathens and actually the Jews themselves were portrayed as more depraved. Jews were in bondage and ordered by God to settle a specific place, but they complain bitterly many times and say they would rather have stayed in Egypt
by The Parkus Empire » Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:32 pm
Genivaria wrote:The Parkus Empire wrote:No country could occupy us, it would be unbearable. We don't need standing armies. We have national guard (which includes armored units and special forces).
I'd rather sink their ships from afar then have to fight on our own ground and watch our cities burn for your romantic delusions.
by Conserative Morality » Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:33 pm
by Thermodolia » Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:34 pm
The Parkus Empire wrote:Thermodolia wrote:Not effectively. Not in this day and age. This isn’t the 1800’s anymore. We need a standing army because people are less likely to fight now than they where 100 years ago. The times have changed and your ideology is stuck in the long dead past
People are less likely to fight bullshit wars. They will fight for good reason tho
by Genivaria » Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:34 pm
Thermodolia wrote:Genivaria wrote:I feel I should point out that contrary to popular belief the single greatest obstacle for anyone planning to occupy the continental United States is not American gun owners, it is the Pacific and Atlantic Oceans and the motherfucking United States Navy.
Like the saying goes Russia has winters and the US has oceans
by The Parkus Empire » Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:34 pm
Salus Maior wrote:The Parkus Empire wrote:Not really. Egypt was heathen, but other heathens and actually the Jews themselves were portrayed as more depraved. Jews were in bondage and ordered by God to settle a specific place, but they complain bitterly many times and say they would rather have stayed in Egypt
Ancient Jews were huge whiners, really.
by Thermodolia » Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:34 pm
The Parkus Empire wrote:Genivaria wrote:Actually even in HOI4 a division that is hastily deployed might be so under-equipped and undermanned that while it might be in the field it's functionally useless.
Guerilla warfare is only really effective in combination with other standing forces, and you'd be wrong on the latter point.
No country could occupy us, it would be unbearable. We don't need standing armies. We have national guard (which includes armored units and special forces).
by Albrenia » Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:34 pm
by Salus Maior » Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:35 pm
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