Right Wing Discussion Thread XI: It's Okay To Be Right

[Aulus Maximus]

What do you guys think about the electoral college? I think we should replace it with something like how prime minister of UK is chosen. Oh and house in that case will be proportional instead of 435 little FPTP elections.

I don't support the FPTP method.

[Gim]

Do you disagree with him here, that the state is not above revealed or natural law?

No earthly body is above the word of God - but none of his words speak of rights.

Except, perhaps, for dominion over the Earth. But this is more of a material thing than a political one.

Heaven needs no rights. It's a given.

[The East Marches II]

Even just counting military causalities still exceed Jewish losses in the war; Krivosheev estimated between 8 to 9, while some others have been as high as 14.

On a more serious note, I don't condone the murder of innocents.

No, you just support the imperialism which leads to them being murdered.

Only if that imperialism is carried out by a Frenchman, a Japanese or Belgian really.

[Gim]

No, you just support the imperialism which leads to them being murdered.

Only if that imperialism is carried out by a Frenchman, a Japanese or Belgian really.

Japan was a part of imperialism? I thought they were the ones conquered.

[The East Marches II]

A state of exception is a state of emergency which threatens the very existence of the state

When you are president, you can interparate it as such. Never mind when you miss out on buying Canada North Minnesota.

That is called treason

[Gim]

When you are president, you can interparate it as such. Never mind when you miss out on buying Canada North Minnesota.

That is called treason

What do you have against Canada?

[Inetsograd Soviet]

Only if that imperialism is carried out by a Frenchman, a Japanese or Belgian really.

Japan was a part of imperialism? I thought they were the ones conquered.

ironic you should say that but cough, korea

[Gim]

Japan was a part of imperialism? I thought they were the ones conquered.

ironic you should say that but cough, korea

Korea was conquered during Imperialism? You have to read the history books all over again.

[Inetsograd Soviet]

ironic you should say that but cough, korea

Korea was conquered during Imperialism? You have to read the history books all over again.

The simple act of annexation of Korea, the active exploitation of Manchukuo for resources (not to mention invading to establish a puppet state), and callous conquests in China and beyond are all more than befitting of the label 'imperialism'.

[Gim]

Korea was conquered during Imperialism? You have to read the history books all over again.

The simple act of annexation of Korea, the active exploitation of Manchukuo for resources (not to mention invading to establish a puppet state), and callous conquests in China and beyond are all more than befitting of the label 'imperialism'.

Japan didn't dissolve the Korean government, and there were independence fighters fighting in Korea, so all was not lost in the Korean Peninsula. China was conquered, though.

[Inetsograd Soviet]

The simple act of annexation of Korea, the active exploitation of Manchukuo for resources (not to mention invading to establish a puppet state), and callous conquests in China and beyond are all more than befitting of the label 'imperialism'.

Japan didn't dissolve the Korean government, and there were independence fighters fighting in Korea, so all was not lost in the Korean Peninsula. China was conquered, though.

How does that disqualify them from being imperialist? The Governor-Generals of Korea were without exception all Japanese, the era is in fact referred to as "occupation period by Japanese imperialist" and if anything the existence of independence fighters point out just how independent and 'Korean' that period was.

On the other hand, if having independence fighters disqualifies one from the 'conquered' status, I don't see how China falls onto that when it was still fighting the IJA as a foe in conventional warfare.

[Gim]

Japan didn't dissolve the Korean government, and there were independence fighters fighting in Korea, so all was not lost in the Korean Peninsula. China was conquered, though.

How does that disqualify them from being imperialist? The Governor-Generals of Korea were without exception all Japanese, the era is in fact referred to as "occupation period by Japanese imperialist" and if anything the existence of independence fighters point out just how independent and 'Korean' that period was.

On the other hand, if having independence fighters disqualifies one from the 'conquered' status, I don't see how China falls onto that when it was still fighting the IJA as a foe in conventional warfare.

Governor-Generals of Korea were all Japanese? That claim is as ludicrous as saying all of ministers and commanders of Japan were Korean. In fact, that is not altogether preposterous, due to the fact that Koreans went across to Japan early in the A.D. and settled there.

China, however, had its government conquered. If their central hub is conquered, the whole nation is conquered.

[Inetsograd Soviet]

How does that disqualify them from being imperialist? The Governor-Generals of Korea were without exception all Japanese, the era is in fact referred to as "occupation period by Japanese imperialist" and if anything the existence of independence fighters point out just how independent and 'Korean' that period was.

On the other hand, if having independence fighters disqualifies one from the 'conquered' status, I don't see how China falls onto that when it was still fighting the IJA as a foe in conventional warfare.

Governor-Generals of Korea were all Japanese? That claim is as ludicrous as saying all of ministers and commanders of Japan were Korean. In fact, that is not altogether preposterous, due to the fact that Koreans went across to Japan early in the A.D. and settled there.

China, however, had its government conquered. If their central hub is conquered, the whole nation is conquered.

look at those names and tell me one of them, one of them is korean

on the other hand about half of china was still resisting while all of korea was conquered so where's the double standards coming from.

[Gim]

Governor-Generals of Korea were all Japanese? That claim is as ludicrous as saying all of ministers and commanders of Japan were Korean. In fact, that is not altogether preposterous, due to the fact that Koreans went across to Japan early in the A.D. and settled there.

China, however, had its government conquered. If their central hub is conquered, the whole nation is conquered.

look at those names and tell me one of them, one of them is korean

on the other hand about half of china was still resisting while all of korea was conquered so where's the double standards coming from.

That was when the Japanese thought they had full control of Korea, which they didn't, because of the Independence Fighters.
Also, the half of China that wasn't conquered was the Gobi desert. It's not as anyone would be fighting for it or be living there.

[Pilarcraft]

Gim and Inetsograd Soviet

I'm sorry, are you two arguing over how imperialist Japan was?

[Inetsograd Soviet]

look at those names and tell me one of them, one of them is korean

on the other hand about half of china was still resisting while all of korea was conquered so where's the double standards coming from.

That was when the Japanese thought they had full control of Korea, which they didn't, because of the Independence Fighters.
Also, the half of China that wasn't conquered was the Gobi desert. It's not as anyone would be fighting for it or be living there.

What timeline are you from

[Gim]

That was when the Japanese thought they had full control of Korea, which they didn't, because of the Independence Fighters.
Also, the half of China that wasn't conquered was the Gobi desert. It's not as anyone would be fighting for it or be living there.

What timeline are you from

Beijing's conquered. That's China's central hub and capital city.

[Inetsograd Soviet]

Gim and Inetsograd Soviet

I'm sorry, are you two arguing over how imperialist Japan was?

Gim apparently founds his argument on the basis that Korea can never truly be subjugated in any form

[Gim]

Gim and Inetsograd Soviet

I'm sorry, are you two arguing over how imperialist Japan was?

Gim apparently founds his argument on the basis that Korea can never truly be subjugated in any form

inetsograd Soviet apparently found his argument on the basis that Japan can conquer powerful nations and deem itself "imperialist". Come on, dude, you're better than that.

[Inetsograd Soviet]

What timeline are you from

Beijing's conquered. That's China's central hub and capital city.

uh huh its the capital city now so it must always have been the capital city back then

[Gim]

Beijing's conquered. That's China's central hub and capital city.

uh huh its the capital city now so it must always have been the capital city back then

This tells it all.

[Inetsograd Soviet]

Gim apparently founds his argument on the basis that Korea can never truly be subjugated in any form

inetsograd Soviet apparently found his argument on the basis that Japan can conquer powerful nations and deem itself "imperialist". Come on, dude, you're better than that.

I don't know how is it possible to deny that the people you are apologizing for have actually called that period "occupation by imperialists"

[Inetsograd Soviet]

uh huh its the capital city now so it must always have been the capital city back then

This tells it all.

surely you must have read the line that the capital city had relocated to Chongqing and before that was in Nanjing?

[Gim]

inetsograd Soviet apparently found his argument on the basis that Japan can conquer powerful nations and deem itself "imperialist". Come on, dude, you're better than that.

I don't know how is it possible to deny that the people you are apologizing for have actually called that period "occupation by imperialists"

So, once Japanese just even steps into the territory of a nation, that nation is conquered? Both were in battle, and it's clear, in 1945, Korea became independent after long years of fighting.

[Vyzhva]

If a nation isn’t conquered just because there are still some independent fighters left, surely Poland, France, Czechoslovakia, Denmark, Norway etc. were never incorporated into the Third Reich?