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What stance do you take on immigration?

1 - Full open borders. Sweden's Feminist Initiative model. Which involves doing all one can to prevent deportation of even alien criminal elements as they remain the responsibility of the country they find themselves in.
52
6%
2 - Full open borders with border security, checks and potential for deportation of harsher criminal immigrant elements. Multicultural model.
126
15%
3 - Full open borders with border security, checks and potential for deportation of harsher criminal immigrant elements. Melting-pot model.
176
22%
4 - Limited open borders that sets priories solely on the nations labour requirements.
72
9%
5 - Limited open borders that prioritises only high skilled labour. Multicultural model.
35
4%
6 - Limited open borders that prioritises only high skilled labour. Melting-pot model.
204
25%
7 - Closed borders. Only temporary green-cards, tourism and visas. No other forms of citizenship.
76
9%
8 - Fully closed borders.
36
4%
9 - Fully closed borders. No legal emigration.
39
5%
 
Total votes : 816

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Postby The Parkus Empire » Fri Apr 27, 2018 8:56 pm

Republic of the Cristo wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:The Louisiana Purchase was morally bankrupt, Jefferson knew that land belonged to the Indians. The Federalists were right to oppose it.

The Federal government doesn't need to Amend for every action, it only needs to for authority beyond the Constitution. Most government matters should be handled by the States, NOT the Federal government


Most matters are handled by the states. Most regulations, taxes, investigations, elections, expenditures, etc. are done at the state level. Most peoples interactions with the government throughout their lives ( here in America ) will be with state and local government.

There are certain matters, which transcend our local communities and become something of a national subject. You might not have liked the Louisiana purchase, but I dare say that if their existed national polls back in 1803 - most Americans did. Jefferson did what he thought was necessary for an expanding American nation; his swift actions would prove intrinsic to the success and prosperity of the United States throughout the rest of it's history.

The constitution has it's practical limits. It is, after all, just a piece of paper. It is a fine guide to civil governance, but were it shortfalls - our leaders must not falter. Pragmatism is key in good governance - just as much as morality.

Most Americans were wrong, Jefferson's actions expanded the power of the slave states and set the United States on the path of genocide and imperialism

There is such a thing as a "state of exception," but it has nothing to do with everyday government. The Constitution is not a series of guidelines, it is the supreme law of the land.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Fri Apr 27, 2018 8:57 pm

Reikoku wrote:


We need to crowdfund an Info Wars anime.

Anime??
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Fri Apr 27, 2018 8:58 pm

Reikoku wrote:


We need to crowdfund an Info Wars anime.

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Postby Republic of the Cristo » Fri Apr 27, 2018 8:59 pm



Some how, I feel like Alex Jones not only knows but actively supports this.
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Postby Reikoku » Fri Apr 27, 2018 9:01 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Reikoku wrote:
We need to crowdfund an Info Wars anime.

*teleports behind globalists*
"nothin personal, globalist pedophile vampire"


Something tells me that Alex Jones would be a good Taoist. Convincing people to eat mercury tablets to become immortal sounds like something he'd do.

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Postby Republic of the Cristo » Fri Apr 27, 2018 9:04 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Republic of the Cristo wrote:
Most matters are handled by the states. Most regulations, taxes, investigations, elections, expenditures, etc. are done at the state level. Most peoples interactions with the government throughout their lives ( here in America ) will be with state and local government.

There are certain matters, which transcend our local communities and become something of a national subject. You might not have liked the Louisiana purchase, but I dare say that if their existed national polls back in 1803 - most Americans did. Jefferson did what he thought was necessary for an expanding American nation; his swift actions would prove intrinsic to the success and prosperity of the United States throughout the rest of it's history.

The constitution has it's practical limits. It is, after all, just a piece of paper. It is a fine guide to civil governance, but were it shortfalls - our leaders must not falter. Pragmatism is key in good governance - just as much as morality.

Most Americans were wrong, Jefferson's actions expanded the power of the slave states and set the United States on the path of genocide and imperialism

There is such a thing as a "state of exception," but it has nothing to do with everyday government. The Constitution is not a series of guidelines, it is the supreme law of the land.


And when the supreme law of the land is silent on a subject do we wait until 3/4ths of all states just simultaneously reach consensus on a matter? If it weren't for the civil war, we wouldn't have the the 14th through 16th amendments. Sometimes, actions supersede process.
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Postby Oil exporting People » Fri Apr 27, 2018 9:10 pm

Get the fuck outta here with that anime shit bois.
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Postby Reikoku » Fri Apr 27, 2018 9:15 pm

Oil exporting People wrote:Get the fuck outta here with that anime shit bois.


But Fascism is best anime though...

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Postby Conserative Morality » Fri Apr 27, 2018 9:15 pm

Oil exporting People wrote:Get the fuck outta here with that anime shit bois.

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Postby The Parkus Empire » Fri Apr 27, 2018 9:17 pm

Republic of the Cristo wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:Most Americans were wrong, Jefferson's actions expanded the power of the slave states and set the United States on the path of genocide and imperialism

There is such a thing as a "state of exception," but it has nothing to do with everyday government. The Constitution is not a series of guidelines, it is the supreme law of the land.


And when the supreme law of the land is silent on a subject do we wait until 3/4ths of all states just simultaneously reach consensus on a matter? If it weren't for the civil war, we wouldn't have the the 14th through 16th amendments. Sometimes, actions supersede process.

Only in a "state of exception"
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Fri Apr 27, 2018 9:18 pm

Oil exporting People wrote:Get the fuck outta here with that anime shit bois.

Amen
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Postby Oil exporting People » Fri Apr 27, 2018 9:18 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
West Leas Oros wrote:Incorrect.
Image


Where is OEP when you need him


I could feel I was summoned, and I can see I'm needed to kill Communists.

Get me my Karabiner.
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Postby West Leas Oros » Fri Apr 27, 2018 9:19 pm

Reikoku wrote:
Oil exporting People wrote:Get the fuck outta here with that anime shit bois.


But Fascism is best anime though...

Incorrect.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0nWhQO6joQs
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Postby Reikoku » Fri Apr 27, 2018 9:20 pm

Oil exporting People wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:
Where is OEP when you need him


I could feel I was summoned, and I can see I'm needed to kill Communists.

Get me my Karabiner.


Unfortunately, Communists are harder to kill than crying Jewish children.

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Postby Oil exporting People » Fri Apr 27, 2018 9:21 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
Oil exporting People wrote:Get the fuck outta here with that anime shit bois.

OEP hiding from the animu gestapo (1944, colorized)


We should've maintained the occupation past 1954, I feel.
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Postby Republic of the Cristo » Fri Apr 27, 2018 9:22 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Republic of the Cristo wrote:
And when the supreme law of the land is silent on a subject do we wait until 3/4ths of all states just simultaneously reach consensus on a matter? If it weren't for the civil war, we wouldn't have the the 14th through 16th amendments. Sometimes, actions supersede process.

Only in a "state of exception"


And when does this state of exception exist? Since there is no outright frame work for when this is, the only real question left is: when should it be?

It's rather open ended. As it should be.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Fri Apr 27, 2018 9:22 pm

Reikoku wrote:
Oil exporting People wrote:
I could feel I was summoned, and I can see I'm needed to kill Communists.

Get me my Karabiner.


Unfortunately, Communists are harder to kill than crying Jewish children.

That's a sicker burn than the Holocaust.
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Postby Oil exporting People » Fri Apr 27, 2018 9:22 pm

Reikoku wrote:
Oil exporting People wrote:
I could feel I was summoned, and I can see I'm needed to kill Communists.

Get me my Karabiner.


Unfortunately, Communists are harder to kill than crying Jewish children.


Evidently not.
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Postby Oil exporting People » Fri Apr 27, 2018 9:23 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
Reikoku wrote:
Unfortunately, Communists are harder to kill than crying Jewish children.

That's a sicker burn than the Holocaust.


I'd like a citation for that; we ran the ovens awfully hot back then.
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Postby West Leas Oros » Fri Apr 27, 2018 9:23 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
Reikoku wrote:
Unfortunately, Communists are harder to kill than crying Jewish children.

That's a sicker burn than the Holocaust.

Can I get a glass of juice from concentrate.
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Postby Republic of the Cristo » Fri Apr 27, 2018 9:23 pm

Reikoku wrote:
Oil exporting People wrote:
I could feel I was summoned, and I can see I'm needed to kill Communists.

Get me my Karabiner.


Unfortunately, Communists are harder to kill than crying Jewish children.


Are they though?
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Postby Conserative Morality » Fri Apr 27, 2018 9:23 pm

Oil exporting People wrote:
Reikoku wrote:
Unfortunately, Communists are harder to kill than crying Jewish children.


Evidently not.

Mostly civilians. What big, strong, Aryan supermen! =^)
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Fri Apr 27, 2018 9:25 pm

Republic of the Cristo wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:Only in a "state of exception"


And when does this state of exception exist? Since there is no outright frame work for when this is, the only real question left is: when should it be?

It's rather open ended. As it should be.

A state of exception is a state of emergency which threatens the very existence of the state
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Postby Republic of the Cristo » Fri Apr 27, 2018 9:28 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Republic of the Cristo wrote:
And when does this state of exception exist? Since there is no outright frame work for when this is, the only real question left is: when should it be?

It's rather open ended. As it should be.

A state of exception is a state of emergency which threatens the very existence of the state


When you are president, you can interparate it as such. Never mind when you miss out on buying Canada North Minnesota.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Fri Apr 27, 2018 9:28 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
Oil exporting People wrote:
Evidently not.

Mostly civilians. What big, strong, Aryan supermen! =^)

:(
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