Right Wing Discussion Thread XI: It's Okay To Be Right

[Ceolophysia]

Using we is a mistake. I've more claim to being libertarian than you do

This I would concur with, at least if "libertarian" is intended to mean early American liberty-ism

What you call "early American liberty-ism" is a type of libertarianism, but a specific kind known as classical liberalism, which happens to be the kind of libertarianism I identify with.

[The Parkus Empire]

This I would concur with, at least if "libertarian" is intended to mean early American liberty-ism

What you call "early American liberty-ism" is a type of libertarianism, but a specific kind known as classical liberalism, which happens to be the kind of libertarianism I identify with.

Great, tariffs all around!

[Genivaria]

What you call "early American liberty-ism" is a type of libertarianism, but a specific kind known as classical liberalism, which happens to be the kind of libertarianism I identify with.

Great, tariffs all around!

HIIIIISSSSSSSS!!!

[Ceolophysia]

tbh I'm the only true defender of property in this thread.

How so? I will pretty much argue against practically any kind of government spending that I hear anyone suggest.

[Northeast American Federation]

What you call "early American liberty-ism" is a type of libertarianism, but a specific kind known as classical liberalism, which happens to be the kind of libertarianism I identify with.

Great, tariffs all around!

Wwwhhhaaatttt? But tariffs aren't libertarian! Why do you hate the free market™?

[The Liberated Territories]

My friend, there is a world of a difference in disposing of a tyrant and murdering innocent people for their political views. McCarthyists like you are all too willing use violence against your perceived communist menace, even at the expense of people's rights.

I don't really approve of murdering dissidents, but when they collectively threaten to topple order if they aren't checked, then (and only then) extraordinary action is called for, as with the Alien and Sedition Acts

Yeah those acts were egregious. Especially the 1798 act. Fuck the Federalists.

[Conserative Morality]

tbh I'm the only true defender of property in this thread.

How so? I will pretty much argue against practically any kind of government spending that I hear anyone suggest.

The government is the ultimate property owner. =^)

[Ceolophysia]

What you call "early American liberty-ism" is a type of libertarianism, but a specific kind known as classical liberalism, which happens to be the kind of libertarianism I identify with.

Great, tariffs all around!

Except for tariffs. I'm against those, even if they're part of classical liberalism, like you seem to be claiming.

[The Parkus Empire]

Great, tariffs all around!

Wwwhhhaaatttt? But tariffs aren't libertarian! Why do you hate the free market™?

More libertarian than effing income tax

[The Liberated Territories]

How so? I will pretty much argue against practically any kind of government spending that I hear anyone suggest.

The government is the ultimate property owner. =^)

Indeed, it still has yet to justify its claim to 90% of the West. Don't Yogi Bear know he's trespassing on gov't property?

[Ceolophysia]

How so? I will pretty much argue against practically any kind of government spending that I hear anyone suggest.

The government is the ultimate property owner. =^)

Government only gains property through theft. =^)))

[The Parkus Empire]

Great, tariffs all around!

Except for tariffs. I'm against those, even if they're part of classical liberalism, like you seem to be claiming.

How do you propose to fund the Federal government then?

[Conserative Morality]

The government is the ultimate property owner. =^)

Government only gains property through theft. =^)))

Property is theft, so that's appropriate. =^)

[The Liberated Territories]

Great, tariffs all around!

Except for tariffs. I'm against those, even if they're part of classical liberalism, like you seem to be claiming.

The Republicans and Whigs weren't really classical liberals, but the factions who most opposed tariffs in Britain like the Peelites though were.

[Northeast American Federation]

The government is the ultimate property owner. =^)

Government only gains property through theft. =^)))

It's can't be theft if nobody who claimed to own it is still alive.

[Ceolophysia]

Wwwhhhaaatttt? But tariffs aren't libertarian! Why do you hate the free market™?

More libertarian than effing income tax

Except they don't work.

[Conserative Morality]

The government is the ultimate property owner. =^)

Indeed, it still has yet to justify its claim to 90% of the West. Don't Yogi Bear know he's trespassing on gov't property?

Yogi Bear should be put up against a wall and shot, tbh. He's always defying Ranger Smith, the agent of government authority in the park. That's a violation of the government's property rights.

[The Liberated Territories]

Government only gains property through theft. =^)))

Property is theft, so that's appropriate. =^)

t. proudhon

[Northeast American Federation]

Government only gains property through theft. =^)))

Property is theft, so that's appropriate. =^)

Who the hell can the existence of property be a theft from? Gaia?

[Conserative Morality]

Who the hell can the existence of property be a theft from? Gaia?

Previous governments, who stole it from previous inhabitants, who stole it from the animals, who stole it from the plants, who stole it from microorganisms.

[Ceolophysia]

Except for tariffs. I'm against those, even if they're part of classical liberalism, like you seem to be claiming.

How do you propose to fund the Federal government then?

Cut spending to make up for less taxes, and anyway tariffs aren't a very good kind of tax imo.

[Northeast American Federation]

Who the hell can the existence of property be a theft from? Gaia?

Previous governments, who stole it from previous inhabitants, who stole it from the animals, who stole it from the plants, who stole it from microorganisms.

Those damn protozoa stole the land from the native cyanobacteria!

[The Parkus Empire]

More libertarian than effing income tax

Except they don't work.

Their primary purpose is state revenue. Considering they we're the primary source of Federal revenue until the introduction of income tax, I would say they worked

[Ceolophysia]

Government only gains property through theft. =^)))

Property is theft, so that's appropriate. =^)

So you admit you aren't the real defender of property?

[Conserative Morality]

Property is theft, so that's appropriate. =^)

So you admit you aren't the real defender of property?

Nope, I'm a defender of property despite the fact that it originates in theft. =^)