Right Wing Discussion Thread XI: It's Okay To Be Right

[Albrenia]

Abortion, gambling, casual sex, use of mind-altering substances (this one rates low on my list of priorities), interest loans, etc.

Interest loans? Never heard that one described as degenerate before.

It used to be a big-time sin and all. Then god saw how much cash was in it and decided it was cool beans now.

[New Emeline]

If society was made up only of top 10 percentile IQ people then anarchy would work fine.

But.

Fully one fifth of the population has an IQ below 88. And obviously, more than half have an IQ below 100. These people need to be controlled. It's good for them and it's good for the top 50 percentile too.

People with high IQs can abuse the system and act immorally as well. They're just probably better at it.

IQ is a pretty bullshit way of actually assessing someone anyways. It only addresses certain aspects of intelligence.

[Questers]

Yes, like the useful ones.

[United Muscovite Nations]

Abortion, gambling, casual sex, use of mind-altering substances (this one rates low on my list of priorities), interest loans, etc.

Interest loans? Never heard that one described as degenerate before.

By charging higher amounts of money than what is lent, the lender is gambling in the hope that the person they are lending to will never be able to pay off their debt, and will be a source of income forever.

[New Emeline]

Yes, like the useful ones.

What is this in reference to?

[Questers]

What is this in reference to?

It only addresses certain aspects of intelligence.

Yes, like the useful ones.

[New Emeline]

What is this in reference to?

It only addresses certain aspects of intelligence.

Yes, like the useful ones.

Useful how? There is no singular way to be useful.

[Souseiseki]

If society was made up only of top 10 percentile IQ people then anarchy would work fine.

But.

Fully one fifth of the population has an IQ below 88. And obviously, more than half have an IQ below 100. These people need to be controlled. It's good for them and it's good for the top 50 percentile too.

100 IQ is literally defined as the average IQ

we could evolve into a race of hyperintelligent zen questerians and more than half of people would still have an IQ below 100

the way you talk about it makes it sound like you already know this though, at which point i start to wonder why you don't think it's silly

[Questers]

Empathetic intelligence is unmeasurable. Musical or artistic intelligence is pareto-optimal and so there's no point in measuring it. Crystallised intelligence is totally a function of investment. Fluid logical intelligence correlates highly to almost all good things and it's easy to measure.

[New Emeline]

Empathetic intelligence is unmeasurable. Musical or artistic intelligence is pareto-optimal and so there's no point in measuring it. Crystallised intelligence is totally a function of investment. Fluid logical intelligence correlates highly to almost all good things and it's easy to measure.

Just because something is immeasurable does not make it useless.

[Questers]

If society was made up only of top 10 percentile IQ people then anarchy would work fine.

But.

Fully one fifth of the population has an IQ below 88. And obviously, more than half have an IQ below 100. These people need to be controlled. It's good for them and it's good for the top 50 percentile too.

100 IQ is literally defined as the average IQ

we could evolve into a race of hyperintelligent zen questerians and more than half of people would still have an IQ below 100

the way you talk about it makes it sound like you already know this though, at which point i start to wonder why you don't think it's silly

No, yes, I know this.

The number is just a substitute for how people are though. Someone at IQ 70 at the present time is just about able to use very basic tools. An IQ 80 person's not useful for anything. 100, as you say, is average: average intelligence is not that high in this country. And our country has high average intelligence.

If we quintupled intelligence then yeah ok, youd have to be like IQ 10 or something to be unable to use a spoon. That's not the point.

Btw I don't say this out of a Moldbuggian desire to imply my IQ is super high. It's not. It just isn't below 100.

[Northern Davincia]

Interest loans? Never heard that one described as degenerate before.

By charging higher amounts of money than what is lent, the lender is gambling in the hope that the person they are lending to will never be able to pay off their debt, and will be a source of income forever.

It's like Animal Crossing but more depressing.

[Questers]

Useful how? There is no singular way to be useful.

And also I would like to see a person who has high emotional or artistic intelligence but low fluid intelligence. Doesn't seem common at all.

[Republic of the Cristo]

Which is why police actively pursue the black market.

Tell me, why did prohibition fail?

Actually, there isn't a lot of consensus that it did fail. http://www.druglibrary.org/prohibitionresults1.htm

Lot of charts and graphs there, as well as numerous local records. Pretty much, alcohol consumption rose - but deaths from alcoholism shrank. It depends on which perspective you view it from.

[Northern Davincia]

Tell me, why did prohibition fail?

Actually, there isn't a lot of consensus that it did fail. http://www.druglibrary.org/prohibitionresults1.htm

Lot of charts and graphs there, as well as numerous local records. Pretty much, alcohol consumption rose - but deaths from alcoholism shrank. It depends on which perspective you view it from.

I'm quite certain that increasing consumption rates are indicative of failure. The colossal failure of the drug war should cement this point.

[United Muscovite Nations]

Actually, there isn't a lot of consensus that it did fail. http://www.druglibrary.org/prohibitionresults1.htm

Lot of charts and graphs there, as well as numerous local records. Pretty much, alcohol consumption rose - but deaths from alcoholism shrank. It depends on which perspective you view it from.

I'm quite certain that increasing consumption rates are indicative of failure. The colossal failure of the drug war should cement this point.

All bans fail on some level or another.

[Albrenia]

I'm quite certain that increasing consumption rates are indicative of failure. The colossal failure of the drug war should cement this point.

All bans fail on some level or another.

Ban bans?

[United Muscovite Nations]

All bans fail on some level or another.

Ban bans?

No, what I'm trying to say is that the persistence of a banned activity isn't necessarily a good argument for the legalization of something.

[Benuty]

All bans fail on some level or another.

Ban bans?

I suppose you could erase general knowledge of such things for the populace to get them to focus on better things.

[Questers]

Ban bans?

No, what I'm trying to say is that the persistence of a banned activity isn't necessarily a good argument for the legalization of something.

That's right.

Drunk people will always piss in the fountain. That's not a good argument for legalising it.

[Tule]

Actually, there isn't a lot of consensus that it did fail. http://www.druglibrary.org/prohibitionresults1.htm

Lot of charts and graphs there, as well as numerous local records. Pretty much, alcohol consumption rose - but deaths from alcoholism shrank. It depends on which perspective you view it from.

I'm quite certain that increasing consumption rates are indicative of failure. The colossal failure of the drug war should cement this point.

Tougher drug laws work.


They may not be justified for other reasons, but they definitely work.

[Northern Davincia]

I'm quite certain that increasing consumption rates are indicative of failure. The colossal failure of the drug war should cement this point.

Tougher drug laws work.


They may not be justified for other reasons, but they definitely work.

Where was this chart taken from?

[Tule]

Tougher drug laws work.


They may not be justified for other reasons, but they definitely work.

Where was this chart taken from?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3818525/

[Benuty]

Tougher drug laws work.


They may not be justified for other reasons, but they definitely work.

Where was this chart taken from?

The peak in the early 1990s makes sense given the situation in the former soviet union.

[Tule]

https://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2009/05/the-decline-of-middle-america-and-the-problem-of-meritocracy/

That was a brilliant article. This feels even more true for welfare countries like the one I live in where every conceivable hindrance a person might encounter in their life is taken care of by the state. If you don't succeed, it's entirely your own fault.