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What stance do you take on immigration?

1 - Full open borders. Sweden's Feminist Initiative model. Which involves doing all one can to prevent deportation of even alien criminal elements as they remain the responsibility of the country they find themselves in.
52
6%
2 - Full open borders with border security, checks and potential for deportation of harsher criminal immigrant elements. Multicultural model.
126
15%
3 - Full open borders with border security, checks and potential for deportation of harsher criminal immigrant elements. Melting-pot model.
176
22%
4 - Limited open borders that sets priories solely on the nations labour requirements.
72
9%
5 - Limited open borders that prioritises only high skilled labour. Multicultural model.
35
4%
6 - Limited open borders that prioritises only high skilled labour. Melting-pot model.
204
25%
7 - Closed borders. Only temporary green-cards, tourism and visas. No other forms of citizenship.
76
9%
8 - Fully closed borders.
36
4%
9 - Fully closed borders. No legal emigration.
39
5%
 
Total votes : 816

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Postby The Parkus Empire » Mon Mar 26, 2018 5:35 pm

"There were 326 voters affiliated with the Constitution Party of California as of February 10, 2017"

I hate my state
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Postby The East Marches II » Mon Mar 26, 2018 5:36 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:"There were 326 voters affiliated with the Constitution Party of California as of February 10, 2017"

I hate my state


You are behind enemy lines

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Postby The Parkus Empire » Mon Mar 26, 2018 5:39 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:"There were 326 voters affiliated with the Constitution Party of California as of February 10, 2017"

I hate my state


You are behind enemy lines

And the enemy is turned against himself
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Postby Napkiraly » Mon Mar 26, 2018 5:40 pm


You are more like Billy Sole :^)

Billy was of half-Sioux Indian, half-Italian descent[3] and it was from his native people that he learned his exemplary tracking skills.

was of half-Sioux Indian, half-Italian descent

half-Sioux Indian, half-Italian
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Mon Mar 26, 2018 5:47 pm

Apart from the whole slavery thing, America was much better in 1700's
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Postby The East Marches II » Mon Mar 26, 2018 5:48 pm

Napkiraly wrote:

You are more like Billy Sole :^)

Billy was of half-Sioux Indian, half-Italian descent[3] and it was from his native people that he learned his exemplary tracking skills.

was of half-Sioux Indian, half-Italian descent

half-Sioux Indian, half-Italian


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Postby The East Marches II » Mon Mar 26, 2018 5:49 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:Apart from the whole slavery thing, America was much better in 1700's


tbh it was freer

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Postby Albrenia » Mon Mar 26, 2018 5:49 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:Apart from the whole slavery thing, America was much better in 1700's


You're much older than I imagined. :p

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Postby The Parkus Empire » Mon Mar 26, 2018 5:52 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:Apart from the whole slavery thing, America was much better in 1700's


tbh it was freer

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Postby The Parkus Empire » Mon Mar 26, 2018 5:53 pm

Albrenia wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:Apart from the whole slavery thing, America was much better in 1700's


You're much older than I imagined. :p

Your mistake was using your imagination
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Postby New Emeline » Mon Mar 26, 2018 5:53 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:
tbh it was freer

Aye

For some of the population. Also diseases.
No matter how much life might suck now, I'll take it over the past.
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Postby Northeast American Federation » Mon Mar 26, 2018 5:55 pm

New Emeline wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:Aye

For some of the population. Also diseases.
No matter how much life might suck now, I'll take it over the past.


The past didn't have Orwellian surveillance states and WMDs though.
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Postby Napkiraly » Mon Mar 26, 2018 5:58 pm

The 1700's didn't have Vaporwave.

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Postby New Emeline » Mon Mar 26, 2018 5:58 pm

Northeast American Federation wrote:
New Emeline wrote:For some of the population. Also diseases.
No matter how much life might suck now, I'll take it over the past.


The past didn't have Orwellian surveillance states and WMDs though.

But it did have slavery, and much shorter lifespans, strict societal roles, a shit ton of diseases and conditions we can deal with now, no education unless you were rich...

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Postby The Parkus Empire » Mon Mar 26, 2018 5:58 pm

New Emeline wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:Aye

For some of the population. Also diseases.
No matter how much life might suck now, I'll take it over the past.

We have new epidemics now
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Mon Mar 26, 2018 5:59 pm

New Emeline wrote:
Northeast American Federation wrote:
The past didn't have Orwellian surveillance states and WMDs though.

But it did have slavery, and much shorter lifespans, strict societal roles, a shit ton of diseases and conditions we can deal with now, no education unless you were rich...

Lifespans in America were fine.
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Postby New Emeline » Mon Mar 26, 2018 5:59 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
New Emeline wrote:For some of the population. Also diseases.
No matter how much life might suck now, I'll take it over the past.

We have new epidemics now

True, but everything else mentioned still stands.
We are also better equipped to deal with non-bacteria/virus caused medical issues.

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Postby New Emeline » Mon Mar 26, 2018 6:00 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
New Emeline wrote:But it did have slavery, and much shorter lifespans, strict societal roles, a shit ton of diseases and conditions we can deal with now, no education unless you were rich...

Lifespans in America were fine.

The rest still stands my friend. I'll take now over the 1700s, thanks.

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Postby The East Marches II » Mon Mar 26, 2018 6:01 pm

Napkiraly wrote:The 1700's didn't have Vaporwave.


Fuck. This is a super valid point

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Postby Northeast American Federation » Mon Mar 26, 2018 6:01 pm

New Emeline wrote:
Northeast American Federation wrote:
The past didn't have Orwellian surveillance states and WMDs though.

But it did have slavery, and much shorter lifespans, strict societal roles, a shit ton of diseases and conditions we can deal with now, no education unless you were rich...

Ah yes, those eeeevil social roles involving men working and women staying home with the children. Much better now with men and women both at work while the kids are at home eating Tide pods.

And I thought the whole free college movement in the US was a thing because higher education is still regarded as inaccessible by some.
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Postby Salus Maior » Mon Mar 26, 2018 6:03 pm

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The East Marches II wrote:
He will come back and rescue us in our time of need

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Postby New Emeline » Mon Mar 26, 2018 6:03 pm

Northeast American Federation wrote:
New Emeline wrote:But it did have slavery, and much shorter lifespans, strict societal roles, a shit ton of diseases and conditions we can deal with now, no education unless you were rich...

Ah yes, those eeeevil social roles involving men working and women staying home with the children. Much better now with men and women both at work while the kids are at home eating Tide pods.

And I thought the whole free college movement in the US was a thing because higher education is still regarded as inaccessible by some.

First of all, like 3 idiots ate tide pods and that's a tired talking point anyway.
Being someone who happens to be a woman who happens to want to be able to pursue higher education and a job, I think I like it now.

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Postby New Emeline » Mon Mar 26, 2018 6:03 pm

Also I didn't say higher education, I said any education at all.

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Postby The Parkus Empire » Mon Mar 26, 2018 6:05 pm

Higher education had little to do with occupation back then, but you did not have to be "rich" to have it. Primary education had public schools as well, funded by taxes
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Postby New Emeline » Mon Mar 26, 2018 6:09 pm

I'm not denying the present isn't all fairies and butterflies or claiming that the past was entirely sucky, I just don't think things were objectively better and trying to revert backwards isn't going to help anyone.

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