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What stance do you take on immigration?

1 - Full open borders. Sweden's Feminist Initiative model. Which involves doing all one can to prevent deportation of even alien criminal elements as they remain the responsibility of the country they find themselves in.
52
6%
2 - Full open borders with border security, checks and potential for deportation of harsher criminal immigrant elements. Multicultural model.
126
15%
3 - Full open borders with border security, checks and potential for deportation of harsher criminal immigrant elements. Melting-pot model.
176
22%
4 - Limited open borders that sets priories solely on the nations labour requirements.
72
9%
5 - Limited open borders that prioritises only high skilled labour. Multicultural model.
35
4%
6 - Limited open borders that prioritises only high skilled labour. Melting-pot model.
204
25%
7 - Closed borders. Only temporary green-cards, tourism and visas. No other forms of citizenship.
76
9%
8 - Fully closed borders.
36
4%
9 - Fully closed borders. No legal emigration.
39
5%
 
Total votes : 816

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:50 pm

I really hope this one is real.

MEMRI really is a great thing.
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Postby Mujahidah » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:51 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Mujahidah wrote:
Perhaps provide a non-Salafist source for domestic abuse being acceptable?

Domestic abuse isn't acceptable.


Hitting ones spouse is domestic abuse.

Blanco-Campeon wrote:
Mujahidah wrote:
MEMRI tends to intentionally translate clips/passages from the most radical clerics for political gain, so yeah. He definitely was going to end up there.

wait so is MEMRI like a deep ploy to discredit Islam?


In a way, yeah. They've been variously accused of being a ploy to slander Muslims to prop up Israel. For instance, they translated an essay that was condemning Zionism but replaced "Zionism" everywhere it appeared in the essay with "Jews" or "Judaism" so that the author would look like a raging antisemite.
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:52 pm

Blanco-Campeon wrote:
Mujahidah wrote:
MEMRI tends to intentionally translate clips/passages from the most radical clerics for political gain, so yeah. He definitely was going to end up there.

wait so is MEMRI like a deep ploy to discredit Islam?

It kinda is. They have vids discrediting Arabs too.
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Postby Blanco-Campeon » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:52 pm

Mujahidah wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Domestic abuse isn't acceptable.


Hitting ones spouse is domestic abuse.

Blanco-Campeon wrote:wait so is MEMRI like a deep ploy to discredit Islam?


In a way, yeah. They've been variously accused of being a ploy to slander Muslims to prop up Israel. For instance, they translated an essay that was condemning Zionism but replaced "Zionism" everywhere it appeared in the essay with "Jews" or "Judaism" so that the author would look like a raging antisemite.

wild. I now feel kinda bad for enjoying MEMRI memes
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:53 pm

Mujahidah wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Domestic abuse isn't acceptable.


Hitting ones spouse is domestic abuse.

And abuse is unacceptable in Al-Islam.
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Postby Sovaal » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:53 pm

Mujahidah wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:I didn't think the Mickey Mouse one was real. This is fantastic.


It's very real

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Dammit, what doesn’t he control? The church, the world government, the drug trade, video games, TV and the media, and now Mickey Mouse.
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:53 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:I really hope this one is real.

MEMRI really is a great thing.

That one isn't.
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Postby Mujahidah » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:53 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Mujahidah wrote:
Hitting ones spouse is domestic abuse.

And abuse is unacceptable in Al-Islam.


But you just said hitting your wife was acceptable
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Postby Great Kauthar » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:53 pm

Blanco-Campeon wrote:
Mujahidah wrote:
MEMRI tends to intentionally translate clips/passages from the most radical clerics for political gain, so yeah. He definitely was going to end up there.

wait so is MEMRI like a deep ploy to discredit Islam?

Not really. I wouldn't take everything it says seriously, as Yigal Carmon (it's founder) was an adviser to Yitzhak Rabin and Yitzhak Shamir. It doesn't just focus on radical Islamists and play them off as the average ME figure, but they do translate stuff from Middle Eastern liberals and reformers.
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Postby Mujahidah » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:54 pm

Blanco-Campeon wrote:
Mujahidah wrote:
Hitting ones spouse is domestic abuse.



In a way, yeah. They've been variously accused of being a ploy to slander Muslims to prop up Israel. For instance, they translated an essay that was condemning Zionism but replaced "Zionism" everywhere it appeared in the essay with "Jews" or "Judaism" so that the author would look like a raging antisemite.

wild. I now feel kinda bad for enjoying MEMRI memes


Eh. I've learned to laugh. The way they get used situationally can be quite funny. I'm just not the most offendable person, to be quite honest.
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Postby Constaniana » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:54 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:I really hope this one is real.

MEMRI really is a great thing.

Image

What a cool super power. :p
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:54 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Mujahidah wrote:
Hitting ones spouse is domestic abuse.

And abuse is unacceptable in Al-Islam.


You have some serious cognitive dissonance going on right now.
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Postby Sovaal » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:54 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:I really hope this one is real.

MEMRI really is a great thing.

But wait, aren’t the Albanians majority Muslim?
Most of the time I have no idea what the hell I'm doing or talking about.

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"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell

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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:54 pm

Mujahidah wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:And abuse is unacceptable in Al-Islam.


But you just said hitting your wife was acceptable

Very lightly.
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Postby Salus Maior » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:55 pm

Sovaal wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:I really hope this one is real.

MEMRI really is a great thing.

But wait, aren’t the Albanians majority Muslim?


By a slim margin iirc. A good number of them are Catholics and Orthodox Christian.
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Postby Blanco-Campeon » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:55 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Mujahidah wrote:
But you just said hitting your wife was acceptable

Very lightly.

wat
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Postby Salus Maior » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:55 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Mujahidah wrote:
But you just said hitting your wife was acceptable

Very lightly.


:|
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Postby Mujahidah » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:56 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Mujahidah wrote:
But you just said hitting your wife was acceptable

Very lightly.


1. Domestic abuse isn't always brute physical force. It can be emotional. Excessive possessiveness is emotional abuse

2. Hitting someone lightly is still hitting them.
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Postby Albrenia » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:56 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Mujahidah wrote:
But you just said hitting your wife was acceptable

Very lightly.


How many newtons of force is 'very lightly'?

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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:56 pm

Salus Maior wrote:
Sovaal wrote:But wait, aren’t the Albanians majority Muslim?


By a slim margin iirc. A good number of them are Catholics and Orthodox Christian.

Last I checked, Albania's 90 something % Muslim.
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Postby Sovaal » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:56 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Mujahidah wrote:
But you just said hitting your wife was acceptable

Very lightly.

The fuck is “very lightly”?
Most of the time I have no idea what the hell I'm doing or talking about.

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No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is
the worst form of government, except for all the others that have been tried from time to time." -
Winston Churchill, 1947.

"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell

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Postby Constaniana » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:56 pm

Salus Maior wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Very lightly.


:|

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Postby Great Kauthar » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:57 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Mujahidah wrote:
But you just said hitting your wife was acceptable

Very lightly.

Bruh what

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:
By a slim margin iirc. A good number of them are Catholics and Orthodox Christian.

Last I checked, Albania's 90 something % Muslim.

No they're not
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Postby Mujahidah » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:57 pm

Constaniana wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:
:|

Give her a slightly-too-vigorous massage.


Oof. Ouch. Owie. My shoulders.
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The Parkus Empire wrote:I am not sure I'm entirely comfortable with a woman being this well informed, but I'll try not to judge.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:58 pm

Sovaal wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Very lightly.

The fuck is “very lightly”?


Well it's simple really, you just very lightly punch her in the jaw when she's disobedient.
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