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What stance do you take on immigration?

1 - Full open borders. Sweden's Feminist Initiative model. Which involves doing all one can to prevent deportation of even alien criminal elements as they remain the responsibility of the country they find themselves in.
52
6%
2 - Full open borders with border security, checks and potential for deportation of harsher criminal immigrant elements. Multicultural model.
126
15%
3 - Full open borders with border security, checks and potential for deportation of harsher criminal immigrant elements. Melting-pot model.
176
22%
4 - Limited open borders that sets priories solely on the nations labour requirements.
72
9%
5 - Limited open borders that prioritises only high skilled labour. Multicultural model.
35
4%
6 - Limited open borders that prioritises only high skilled labour. Melting-pot model.
204
25%
7 - Closed borders. Only temporary green-cards, tourism and visas. No other forms of citizenship.
76
9%
8 - Fully closed borders.
36
4%
9 - Fully closed borders. No legal emigration.
39
5%
 
Total votes : 816

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Postby Sovaal » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:42 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Sovaal wrote:Id rather not hit or be hit at all.

You're not Muslim, thiz doesn't apply to you.

I don’t give a shit, people shouldn’t hit each other.
Most of the time I have no idea what the hell I'm doing or talking about.

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"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell

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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:43 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Reikoku wrote:
So was Hitler.


The greatest secret of them all!

No, the real secret is that Ataturk was black, his real name was Mustafa Jamal Atazenci.
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Postby Blanco-Campeon » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:43 pm

Mujahidah wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:https://islamqa.info/en/41199
"Hitting is subject to the condition that it should not be harsh or cause injury."
"‘Ata’ said: I said to Ibn ‘Abbaas, what is the kind of hitting that is not harsh? He said, Hitting with a siwaak and the like. [A siwaak is a small stick or twig used for cleaning the teeth - Translator] "
http://www.islamswomen.com/marriage/wif ... _islam.php


You do realize that Islamqa is a website run by a controversial Salafi cleric, right?

Meet Muhammad Al-Munajjid.

I'm not saying you aren't allowed to agree with him - I don't impose belief on anyone. What I'm saying is that before going to someone as a source, you should understand who they are and what you are subscribing to.

From the wiki:

"Munajjid said Shariah allows for iPhone jailbreaking."

how in the
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Postby Napkiraly » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:43 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Sovaal wrote:Id rather not hit or be hit at all.

You're not Muslim, thiz doesn't apply to you.

Our land, our ways, our laws.

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Postby Mujahidah » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:43 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Mujahidah wrote:
You do realize that Islamqa is a website run by a controversial Salafi cleric, right?

Meet Muhammad Al-Munajjid.

I'm not saying you aren't allowed to agree with him - I don't impose belief on anyone. What I'm saying is that before going to someone as a source, you should understand who they are and what you are subscribing to.

Yes. And although I disagree with Salafism/Wahhabism, most of their rulings that I have read are sound.


Uhhhmmmmmm.....

I think you should know that most non-Salafi's don't hold the rulings of said Salafis in very high regard....
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Postby Sovaal » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:43 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Reikoku wrote:
So was Hitler.


The greatest secret of them all!

That his dog Blondi was actually the mastermind behind the 3rd Reich?
Most of the time I have no idea what the hell I'm doing or talking about.

”Many forms of government have been tried and will be tried in this world of sin and woe.
No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is
the worst form of government, except for all the others that have been tried from time to time." -
Winston Churchill, 1947.

"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell

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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:44 pm

Blanco-Campeon wrote:
Mujahidah wrote:
You do realize that Islamqa is a website run by a controversial Salafi cleric, right?

Meet Muhammad Al-Munajjid.

I'm not saying you aren't allowed to agree with him - I don't impose belief on anyone. What I'm saying is that before going to someone as a source, you should understand who they are and what you are subscribing to.

From the wiki:

"Munajjid said Shariah allows for iPhone jailbreaking."

how in the

Wtfreak.
See, this is why I said "most" and not "all". Sometimes, crazy stuff like this comes out.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:45 pm

Sovaal wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
The greatest secret of them all!

That his dog Blondi was actually the mastermind behind the 3rd Reich?


All will fall before the Fourth Canine Reich.
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Postby Reikoku » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:45 pm

Sovaal wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:You're not Muslim, thiz doesn't apply to you.

I don’t give a shit, people shouldn’t hit each other.


Unless the person they're hitting is a wife beater, tbqh.

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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:45 pm

Mujahidah wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Yes. And although I disagree with Salafism/Wahhabism, most of their rulings that I have read are sound.


Uhhhmmmmmm.....

I think you should know that most non-Salafi's don't hold the rulings of said Salafis in very high regard....

Well if their rulings are mostly in line with Al-Islam, and their rulings agree with non-Salafi websites.....
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Postby Mujahidah » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:45 pm

Blanco-Campeon wrote:
Mujahidah wrote:
You do realize that Islamqa is a website run by a controversial Salafi cleric, right?

Meet Muhammad Al-Munajjid.

I'm not saying you aren't allowed to agree with him - I don't impose belief on anyone. What I'm saying is that before going to someone as a source, you should understand who they are and what you are subscribing to.

From the wiki:

"Munajjid said Shariah allows for iPhone jailbreaking."

how in the


You may know Munajjid as this semi-popular meme. Yes, he did really say that. MEMRI is notorious for bastardizing things people say to make Israel look better and Muslims look bad, but this is not one of those cases.
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Postby Napkiraly » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:46 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Mujahidah wrote:
You do realize that Islamqa is a website run by a controversial Salafi cleric, right?

Meet Muhammad Al-Munajjid.

I'm not saying you aren't allowed to agree with him - I don't impose belief on anyone. What I'm saying is that before going to someone as a source, you should understand who they are and what you are subscribing to.

Yes. And although I disagree with Salafism/Wahhabism, most of their rulings that I have read are sound.

If you agree with most Salafi rulings, then basically you're endorsing Salafism. You're just a Salafist in denial because you know it means the FBI and NSA will be sp00king on you if they aren't already.

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Postby Mujahidah » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:46 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Mujahidah wrote:
Uhhhmmmmmm.....

I think you should know that most non-Salafi's don't hold the rulings of said Salafis in very high regard....

Well if their rulings are mostly in line with Al-Islam, and their rulings agree with non-Salafi websites.....


Perhaps provide a non-Salafist source for domestic abuse being acceptable?
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The Parkus Empire wrote:I am not sure I'm entirely comfortable with a woman being this well informed, but I'll try not to judge.
The Parkus Empire wrote:Ah, m'lady, if I were a heathen I'd wed thee four times

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:46 pm

Reikoku wrote:
Sovaal wrote:I don’t give a shit, people shouldn’t hit each other.


Unless the person they're hitting is a wife beater, tbqh.


This^^^

Mujahidah wrote:
Blanco-Campeon wrote:From the wiki:

"Munajjid said Shariah allows for iPhone jailbreaking."

how in the


You may know Munajjid as this semi-popular meme. Yes, he did really say that. MEMRI is notorious for bastardizing things people say to make Israel look better and Muslims look bad, but this is not one of those cases.


I might just make that my new flag, thank you fellow person.
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Postby Napkiraly » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:46 pm

Sovaal wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
The greatest secret of them all!

That his dog Blondi was actually the mastermind behind the 3rd Reich?

Count Dankula was framed, it was the pug all along.

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Postby Sovaal » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:47 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Sovaal wrote:That his dog Blondi was actually the mastermind behind the 3rd Reich?


All will fall before the Fourth Canine Reich.

Does Merkel have a dog?
Most of the time I have no idea what the hell I'm doing or talking about.

”Many forms of government have been tried and will be tried in this world of sin and woe.
No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is
the worst form of government, except for all the others that have been tried from time to time." -
Winston Churchill, 1947.

"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell

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Postby Blanco-Campeon » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:47 pm

Mujahidah wrote:
Blanco-Campeon wrote:From the wiki:

"Munajjid said Shariah allows for iPhone jailbreaking."

how in the


You may know Munajjid as this semi-popular meme. Yes, he did really say that. MEMRI is notorious for bastardizing things people say to make Israel look better and Muslims look bad, but this is not one of those cases.

I should've known he would be in a MEMRI meme.
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Postby Napkiraly » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:47 pm

I didn't think the Mickey Mouse one was real. This is fantastic.

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Postby Mujahidah » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:48 pm

Blanco-Campeon wrote:
Mujahidah wrote:
You may know Munajjid as this semi-popular meme. Yes, he did really say that. MEMRI is notorious for bastardizing things people say to make Israel look better and Muslims look bad, but this is not one of those cases.

I should've known he would be in a MEMRI meme.


MEMRI tends to intentionally translate clips/passages from the most radical clerics for political gain, so yeah. He definitely was going to end up there.
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The Parkus Empire wrote:I misjudged you, you are much more smarter than I gave you credit for.
Northern Davincia wrote:Can we engrave this in a plaque?
The Parkus Empire wrote:I am not sure I'm entirely comfortable with a woman being this well informed, but I'll try not to judge.
The Parkus Empire wrote:Ah, m'lady, if I were a heathen I'd wed thee four times

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Postby Mujahidah » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:49 pm

Napkiraly wrote:I didn't think the Mickey Mouse one was real. This is fantastic.


It's very real
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The Parkus Empire wrote:To paraphrase my hero, Richard Nixon: she's pink right down to her hijab.
The Parkus Empire wrote:I misjudged you, you are much more smarter than I gave you credit for.
Northern Davincia wrote:Can we engrave this in a plaque?
The Parkus Empire wrote:I am not sure I'm entirely comfortable with a woman being this well informed, but I'll try not to judge.
The Parkus Empire wrote:Ah, m'lady, if I were a heathen I'd wed thee four times

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Postby Albrenia » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:49 pm

Hitting people is generally bad, yo. Particularly with implements.

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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:49 pm

Mujahidah wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Well if their rulings are mostly in line with Al-Islam, and their rulings agree with non-Salafi websites.....


Perhaps provide a non-Salafist source for domestic abuse being acceptable?

Domestic abuse isn't acceptable.
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Postby Napkiraly » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:50 pm

Mujahidah wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:I didn't think the Mickey Mouse one was real. This is fantastic.


It's very real

My life is complete.

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Postby Blanco-Campeon » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:50 pm

Mujahidah wrote:
Blanco-Campeon wrote:I should've known he would be in a MEMRI meme.


MEMRI tends to intentionally translate clips/passages from the most radical clerics for political gain, so yeah. He definitely was going to end up there.

wait so is MEMRI like a deep ploy to discredit Islam?
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Postby Constaniana » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:50 pm

Napkiraly wrote:I didn't think the Mickey Mouse one was real. This is fantastic.

My life is forever changed. Next we'll find that giant Bulgarian pot for boiling 3 million Muslim babies.
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