Right Wing Discussion Thread XI: It's Okay To Be Right

[Genivaria]

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/mar/07/hungary-young-national-pride-viktor-orban-europe

At the moment, I don’t much like being Hungarian. In recent years I’ve started feeling that my nationality resembles a nasty skin disease that I want to scrub off. When I’m abroad, I hide my accent and I call myself a “world citizen”. I’ve vowed never to have a Hungarian boyfriend, or even to settle down in my own country. I hate the fact that much of the world now believes Hungarians to be intolerant and longing for authoritarianism. Not that long ago we were barely ever mentioned in the international media. Now, we’re a primary example of illiberalism in Europe.

LOL

....wait are you a woman?

[Questers]

no im quoting the article.

[The East Marches II]

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/mar/07/hungary-young-national-pride-viktor-orban-europe

At the moment, I don’t much like being Hungarian. In recent years I’ve started feeling that my nationality resembles a nasty skin disease that I want to scrub off. When I’m abroad, I hide my accent and I call myself a “world citizen”. I’ve vowed never to have a Hungarian boyfriend, or even to settle down in my own country. I hate the fact that much of the world now believes Hungarians to be intolerant and longing for authoritarianism. Not that long ago we were barely ever mentioned in the international media. Now, we’re a primary example of illiberalism in Europe.

LOL

Very standard stuff for the Guardian, no doubt she'll be hailed a progressive hero :^)

[Trumptonium]

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/mar/07/hungary-young-national-pride-viktor-orban-europe

At the moment, I don’t much like being Hungarian. In recent years I’ve started feeling that my nationality resembles a nasty skin disease that I want to scrub off. When I’m abroad, I hide my accent and I call myself a “world citizen”. I’ve vowed never to have a Hungarian boyfriend, or even to settle down in my own country. I hate the fact that much of the world now believes Hungarians to be intolerant and longing for authoritarianism. Not that long ago we were barely ever mentioned in the international media. Now, we’re a primary example of illiberalism in Europe.

LOL

Orban should ban her from Hungary like he banned that Soros twat

Not real Hungarians.

[Taihei Tengoku]

Hungary TFR: 1.44

RWDT TFR: 0.05? I think Nap has kids but who else?

[Questers]

Hungary TFR: 1.44

RWDT TFR: 0.05? I think Nap has kids but who else?

dont worrry there will soon be little questers running around - probably not a good thing anyway

[Mujahidah]

You guys do know what "Islamism" means, right?

[Trumptonium]

You guys do know what "Islamism" means, right?

Yes, radical form of Islam, i.e. salafists and wahhabists

[Mujahidah]

You guys do know what "Islamism" means, right?

Yes, radical form of Islam, i.e. salafists and wahhabists

No. Thats not what it means.

"Islamism" simply means the inclusion of Islamic principles in governance, or 'political Islam' (which has implications of its own that are negative to some). There is no requirement than an Islamist be Salafi. Some Islamists are quite moderate, actually.

Its not my personal cup of coffee, but its not necessarily malicious or terroristic like some make it out to be.

[Napkiraly]

Also, nothing wrong with quizzing immigrants. Citizens who have become Islamists should not be deported, but under no condition should Islamists be allowed in, not even refugees. None. Ever.

Political leanings should not be a category of immigration.

I'll remind myself of your comments should white supremacists from Africa, South America, and Europe start pouring in.

[Genivaria]

Yes, radical form of Islam, i.e. salafists and wahhabists

No. Thats not what it means.

"Islamism" simply means the inclusion of Islamic principles in governance, or 'political Islam' (which has implications of its own that are negative to some). There is no requirement than an Islamist be Salafi. Some Islamists are quite moderate, actually.

Its not my personal cup of coffee, but its not necessarily malicious or terroristic like some make it out to be.

Yeah that, fuck that.

[Mujahidah]

No. Thats not what it means.

"Islamism" simply means the inclusion of Islamic principles in governance, or 'political Islam' (which has implications of its own that are negative to some). There is no requirement than an Islamist be Salafi. Some Islamists are quite moderate, actually.

Its not my personal cup of coffee, but its not necessarily malicious or terroristic like some make it out to be.

Yeah that, fuck that.

Its not my personal cup of coffee, but its not necessarily malicious or terroristic like some make it out to be.

I just feel like we should actually know what the words we're using mean before we get all down on Kubumba. I never said I was supporting the same vision Kubumba was. I just said its not what its being characterized as.

[Kubumba Tribe]

Why not?

If I were an immigration officer and I saw an applicant had a swastika tattoo or something and he openly labeled himself a neo-nazi I'd give him a nice big DENIED.

I can see that. But I was specifically talking abotu political leanings, not so much racist leanings (which Nazism sits between those 2)

Hence why I said:


False equivalency.

Says who?

Yes it is. Assuming all Islamists are violent terrorists is wrong.

I never said they were violent terrorists I said they are extremists, which they are.

Not all

" I don't support terrorism but-"
Proceeds to defend terrorism.

Don't effing lie

Political leanings should not be a category of immigration.

You are hostile to the Constitution that protects your hostility.

No I'm not. I just oppose "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion"

If your religious/political views are that our judeo-christian civilisation should be wholesale replaced by islam then why are we obliged to let you enter our country LoL

Never said "replace"

If your religious/political views are that our judeo-christian civilisation should be wholesale replaced by islam then why are we obliged to let you enter our country LoL

this is our home. you must make a good argument for us to let you in it, we are not obliged to present an argument to prevent your entry

Besides, it's not like there aren't Islamist countries if that's your thing

True. We Muslims should be fixing our Ummah 1st imo.

Political leanings should not be a category of immigration.

Can I just clarify: you're okay with Trump letting radical NF members - who want to ban Islam or wage war against it - immigrate right?

I hate what they stand for, but if they aren't violent, and do not persecute Muslims, then they should be let in. Also, they should be shown why their ideology is wrong.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/mar/07/hungary-young-national-pride-viktor-orban-europe

At the moment, I don’t much like being Hungarian. In recent years I’ve started feeling that my nationality resembles a nasty skin disease that I want to scrub off. When I’m abroad, I hide my accent and I call myself a “world citizen”. I’ve vowed never to have a Hungarian boyfriend, or even to settle down in my own country. I hate the fact that much of the world now believes Hungarians to be intolerant and longing for authoritarianism. Not that long ago we were barely ever mentioned in the international media. Now, we’re a primary example of illiberalism in Europe.

LOL

Orban should ban her from Hungary like he banned that Soros twat

Not real Hungarians.

Whoever wrote that evidently is Hungarian.

[The Parkus Empire]

You guys do know what "Islamism" means, right?

It means advocating state recognition of sharia

[Kubumba Tribe]

You guys do know what "Islamism" means, right?

It means advocating state recognition of sharia

This guy gets it

[Kubumba Tribe]

And it can be enforcement if the state's gov is majority Muslim.

[Genivaria]

It means advocating state recognition of sharia

This guy gets it

"It's not really this horrible thing you think it is."
-presents something horrible.

[The Parkus Empire]

And it can be enforcement if the state's gov is majority Muslim.

Which I do not want here.

[Kubumba Tribe]

This guy gets it

"It's not really this horrible thing you think it is."
-presents something horrible.

To a kafir who thinks he/she knows more than Allah (SWT), it is.
http://legacy.quran.com/23/66-67

[Kubumba Tribe]

And it can be enforcement if the state's gov is majority Muslim.

Which I do not want here.

There's only 3 mil Muslims in the US, state enforcement of Shari'ah won't be happening anytime soon.

[Washington Resistance Army]

"It's not really this horrible thing you think it is."
-presents something horrible.

To a kafir who thinks he/she knows more than Allah (SWT), it is.
http://legacy.quran.com/23/66-67

In the past you've argued for whipping people and allowing men to assault their wives if I'm not mistaken. That's pretty fucking horrible.

[The East Marches II]

Which I do not want here.

There's only 3 mil Muslims in the US, state enforcement of Shari'ah won't be happening anytime soon.

No, we just need to get to the point of Britain, where your lobby having made common cause with the progressives can get it to influence civil law. Its bad enough the Jews get some treatment of that nature.

"It's not really this horrible thing you think it is."
-presents something horrible.

To a kafir who thinks he/she knows more than Allah (SWT), it is.
http://legacy.quran.com/23/66-67

Thats not a good thing to be calling people

[The Parkus Empire]

Which I do not want here.

There's only 3 mil Muslims in the US, state enforcement of Shari'ah won't be happening anytime soon.

It won't be happening ever on my watch

[Sovaal]

It means advocating state recognition of sharia

This guy gets it

I’ll pass.

[Mujahidah]

allowing men to assault their wives if I'm not mistaken

He argued for that?