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What stance do you take on immigration?

1 - Full open borders. Sweden's Feminist Initiative model. Which involves doing all one can to prevent deportation of even alien criminal elements as they remain the responsibility of the country they find themselves in.
52
6%
2 - Full open borders with border security, checks and potential for deportation of harsher criminal immigrant elements. Multicultural model.
126
15%
3 - Full open borders with border security, checks and potential for deportation of harsher criminal immigrant elements. Melting-pot model.
176
22%
4 - Limited open borders that sets priories solely on the nations labour requirements.
72
9%
5 - Limited open borders that prioritises only high skilled labour. Multicultural model.
35
4%
6 - Limited open borders that prioritises only high skilled labour. Melting-pot model.
204
25%
7 - Closed borders. Only temporary green-cards, tourism and visas. No other forms of citizenship.
76
9%
8 - Fully closed borders.
36
4%
9 - Fully closed borders. No legal emigration.
39
5%
 
Total votes : 816

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Postby The East Marches II » Wed Mar 21, 2018 6:42 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
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So is your support of proto-Bolshevism

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Shall I consider you a schismatic in the eyes of the prophet Al-Hoppeyun (PBUH)?


The Prophet Al-Hoppeyyun (PBUH) declared that the rights of the property holder trump that of the feels. He also spoke of how a state is best run by somebody who owns it as his own property. The only schismatic here is you and your proto-bolshevists supporting stripping a man of his property and livelihood.

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Postby Bienenhalde » Wed Mar 21, 2018 7:02 pm

Benuty wrote:
Bienenhalde wrote:
Since when are liberals submissive? The Jacobins who led a bloody revolution and murdered their king were certainly not submissive.

Oh my dear child you don't know what a trap is do you?

It's a guy who dresses as a girl to bait men towards them for sexual purposes or otherwise. Since some users in this thread believe GB to be a trap (unsubstantiated rumors) the logic follows that if GB is a liberal, and a trap then ultimately they are submissive.

As all traps tend to be submissive in a lot of media I don't need to hold your hand through this explanation.


I am perfectly aware of what a trap is...I am just disputing your logic which suggests they would necessarily be liberal.
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Postby Benuty » Wed Mar 21, 2018 7:05 pm

Bienenhalde wrote:
Benuty wrote:Oh my dear child you don't know what a trap is do you?

It's a guy who dresses as a girl to bait men towards them for sexual purposes or otherwise. Since some users in this thread believe GB to be a trap (unsubstantiated rumors) the logic follows that if GB is a liberal, and a trap then ultimately they are submissive.

As all traps tend to be submissive in a lot of media I don't need to hold your hand through this explanation.


I am perfectly aware of what a trap is...I am just disputing your logic which suggests they would necessarily be liberal.

Then perhaps the reading comprehension on this thread needs improvement as people were calling GB a liberal.
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Postby Herskerstad » Wed Mar 21, 2018 7:08 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Mujahidah wrote:
Ideally? A secular, neutral state. I.e.: One that doesnt have a religious symbol on its flag.

Putting personal bias aside thats the only valid solution that won't inedibly collapse ever since the UN imposed the Israeli state on Palestinians.

The proper solution is the restoration of the Kingdom of Jerusalem, as well as the other crusader states.


Nah, a feudal patchwork would not do well. The ME is balkanized enough as it is.

Rather, we should aim for a one state solution to fix most of the world problems

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Postby Bienenhalde » Wed Mar 21, 2018 7:09 pm

Benuty wrote:Then perhaps the reading comprehension on this thread needs improvement as people were calling GB a liberal.

I think he is a liberal...a classical liberal.
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Postby Northern Davincia » Wed Mar 21, 2018 7:12 pm

Herskerstad wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:The proper solution is the restoration of the Kingdom of Jerusalem, as well as the other crusader states.


Nah, a feudal patchwork would not do well. The ME is balkanized enough as it is.

Rather, we should aim for a one state solution to fix most of the world problems

Image

I like that map a lot.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Wed Mar 21, 2018 7:23 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Herskerstad wrote:
Nah, a feudal patchwork would not do well. The ME is balkanized enough as it is.

Rather, we should aim for a one state solution to fix most of the world problems

Image

I like that map a lot.

Ah. Me too. I mean, I oppose imperialism, but I can have my dirty fantasies, right?
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Mar 21, 2018 7:41 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Grand Britannia wrote:
You're right, I better change it to a sad penguin and a different quote from literally who conservative to qualify.



>Trusting media

Pretty much every serious conservative theorist is a literally who conservative unless you read conservative theory.

Did DCF turn into a conservative?
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Wed Mar 21, 2018 7:43 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:Pretty much every serious conservative theorist is a literally who conservative unless you read conservative theory.

Did DCF turn into a conservative?

DCF?
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Mar 21, 2018 7:46 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Did DCF turn into a conservative?

DCF?

A crazy nut over in the left wing thread. You where kinda acting like him with your no true Scotsman bullshit
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Mar 21, 2018 7:46 pm

Herskerstad wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:The proper solution is the restoration of the Kingdom of Jerusalem, as well as the other crusader states.


Nah, a feudal patchwork would not do well. The ME is balkanized enough as it is.

Rather, we should aim for a one state solution to fix most of the world problems

Image

Yes please

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Postby The Parkus Empire » Wed Mar 21, 2018 7:50 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:DCF?

A crazy nut over in the left wing thread. You where kinda acting like him with your no true Scotsman bullshit

Oh yes.

Someone from Tibet is not a Scotsman, no. To say they aren't is not a fallacy
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Postby Tule » Wed Mar 21, 2018 7:56 pm

Which is more important in modern society: The military or healthcare?
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Wed Mar 21, 2018 7:59 pm

Tule wrote:Which is more important in modern society: The military or healthcare?

Depends on if you want to kill or save lives
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Postby Tule » Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:00 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Tule wrote:Which is more important in modern society: The military or healthcare?

Depends on if you want to kill or save lives


The two are not necessarily mutually exclusive.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:01 pm

Tule wrote:Which is more important in modern society: The military or healthcare?

Neither.

Both.

It's important that health care be available to those that need it without the destruction of future prospects, but the projection of force is necessary to preserve and expand such prospects.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:01 pm

Tule wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:Depends on if you want to kill or save lives


The two are not necessarily mutually exclusive.

You are talking about a standing army, so kinda, yeah
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Postby Tule » Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:03 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Tule wrote:
The two are not necessarily mutually exclusive.

You are talking about a standing army, so kinda, yeah


Standing armies can save lives. Just ask the inmates of Bergen Belsen in 1945.
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:04 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Tule wrote:
The two are not necessarily mutually exclusive.

You are talking about a standing army, so kinda, yeah

Standing armies can also save lives by protecting the homeland from invasion
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:12 pm

Tule wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:You are talking about a standing army, so kinda, yeah


Standing armies can save lives. Just ask the inmates of Bergen Belsen in 1945.

I think standing armies had nothing to do with that, since you can still raise armies in time of need. Standing armies did make fascism possible though
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:13 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:You are talking about a standing army, so kinda, yeah

Standing armies can also save lives by protecting the homeland from invasion

You don't need standing armies for that
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Postby Tule » Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:17 pm

You will only raise bad armies in times of need.

Warfighting is a skill that must be honed continuously to be used effectively.
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Postby Lowell Leber » Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:17 pm

Mujahidah wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:So why can’t a state that is majority Jewish exist?


Because its an artificial external construction on land that was, at the time, majority muslim, not majority Jewish. Jews since the Diaspora were a stateless nation. Not only that, but, unlike Kurds, they were a dispersed stateless nation with no clearly defined bounds that their "nation" formed the majority in anyway. There was no reason to kick people off their land just to make Europeans feel better about themselves after the Holocaust.

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Postby Genivaria » Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:17 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Herskerstad wrote:
Nah, a feudal patchwork would not do well. The ME is balkanized enough as it is.

Rather, we should aim for a one state solution to fix most of the world problems

Image

I like that map a lot.

I'm actually okay with this, my hatred of the House of Saud is that strong.
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Postby Genivaria » Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:18 pm

Mujahidah wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:So why can’t a state that is majority Jewish exist?


Because its an artificial external construction on land that was, at the time, majority muslim, not majority Jewish. Jews since the Diaspora were a stateless nation. Not only that, but, unlike Kurds, they were a dispersed stateless nation with no clearly defined bounds that their "nation" formed the majority in anyway. There was no reason to kick people off their land just to make Europeans feel better about themselves after the Holocaust.

And why precisely were they dispersed?
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