Left Wing Discussion Thread IV: Oh Hai Marx

[New Emeline]

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Political Youtube is rather tiring, back and forth between Left and Right. Very Tiresome.

ah got it

[Albrenia]

I won’t lie, I went into this video excepting something that was either beyond stupid or beyond boring (*cough* Shaun *cough*), turns out I was pleasantly surprised — in other words, it’s a good video.

I'm telling you, 1.25 speed....

I just watched most of it at 1.25 speed and still thought he was talking too slowly, hehehe.

I hope he's correct in his predictions.

[Aellex]

Three Arrows is turning into the new Shaun... and Shaun is in his prime.

It's a video about far right finger-pointing regarding the refugee crisis.

That's not really a compliment tho, Shaun is as insipid and vapid as it gets.
He's so boring that one would thinks that he would make for a good somniferous at least but his randoms fits of yelling and raving makes him shit even at that.

As for the video itself was rather bad, tbh. The problem is and remain on the people who opened the door in the first place and then tried to bring everyone else down with them when they realised how much they fucked up, that's to say the Germans (as usual).

[Aellex]

See, this is the sort of thing that sometimes makes me think you Americans need to go through at least one right-wing dictatorship like we did. That sort of terrible experience is good at teaching you this stuff.

Rt if u 2 cri evritim wen u thnk of the good ol' dais n want them bak
Papa De Gaulle, you left us too soon!

[Reformed Houn]

Three Arrows is turning into the new Shaun... and Shaun is in his prime.

It's a video about far right finger-pointing regarding the refugee crisis.

That's not really a compliment tho, Shaun is as insipid and vapid as it gets.
He's so boring that one would thinks that he would make for a good somniferous at least but his randoms fits of yelling and raving makes him shit even at that.

As for the video itself was rather bad, tbh. The problem is and remain on the people who opened the door in the first place and then tried to bring everyone else down with them when they realised how much they fucked up, that's to say the Germans (as usual).

Being charismatic isn't a necessity for doing political videos though.

It wasnt trying to bring everyone else down, atleast in that sense. The idea was that the more the refugee crisis is spread out rather than pumped into one spot, the easier it is to handle. Many of the border countries got flooded and had multiple issues because some of the member states refused to allow even a few thousand people in, which would've helped tremendously.

[Reformed Houn]

I prefer people like Pierre Tru Dank to people like Shaun or Three Arrows tbh, much more dynamic content.

[The Xenopolis Confederation]

I prefer people like Pierre Tru Dank to people like Shaun or Three Arrows tbh, much more dynamic content.

You can't get more dynamic than the esoterical socialogical shrimp-pills of Dr Layman.

[MegaLand Union]

What's teh difference between liberalism and left-libertarianism or social libertarianism

[The Empire of Pretantia]

That kind of nuance is very much absent from my public high school US history class

See, this is the sort of thing that sometimes makes me think you Americans need to go through at least one right-wing dictatorship like we did. That sort of terrible experience is good at teaching you this stuff.

Sure, but you live through a left wing dictatorship first though, since it's your idea.

[Reformed Houn]

I prefer people like Pierre Tru Dank to people like Shaun or Three Arrows tbh, much more dynamic content.

You can't get more dynamic than the esoterical socialogical shrimp-pills of Dr Layman.

Haven't watched him, gonna check that out now. The videos do look interesting

[Reformed Houn]

What's teh difference between liberalism and left-libertarianism or social libertarianism

Liberalism tends to be centre quite purely, but can shift to either direction depending on current events, though historically they almost always tend to lean toward the right. Like in Germany before the Nazis took power, or regarding South America.

[Aellex]

Being charismatic isn't a necessity for doing political videos though.

Not as long as you're able to make good points and arguments, indeed, so that kinda makes it a requirement for him.

It wasnt trying to bring everyone else down, atleast in that sense. The idea was that the more the refugee crisis is spread out rather than pumped into one spot, the easier it is to handle. Many of the border countries got flooded and had multiple issues because some of the member states refused to allow even a few thousand people in, which would've helped tremendously.

Again, no one wanted them but the Germans who nonetheless tried to force countries to take them in when they realised how stupid of an idea that was. There is no other way to call that than bringing other down with you.

[Reformed Houn]

Being charismatic isn't a necessity for doing political videos though.

Not as long as you're able to make good points and arguments, indeed, so that kinda makes it a requirement for him.

It wasnt trying to bring everyone else down, atleast in that sense. The idea was that the more the refugee crisis is spread out rather than pumped into one spot, the easier it is to handle. Many of the border countries got flooded and had multiple issues because some of the member states refused to allow even a few thousand people in, which would've helped tremendously.

Again, no one wanted them but the Germans who nonetheless tried to force countries to take them in when they realised how stupid of an idea that was. There is no other way to call that than bringing other down with you.

He has good points and arguments most of the time, though often he's bad at presenting them. An example is his video about Sargon and statistics. Everything he says in that is absolutely correct.

There was no way to stop atleast the amount who already arrived in Europe. There was a choice between strengthening Europe's borders by spreading the amount of refugees or leaving the border states to get fucked over, and the latter happened to a degree.

[The Xenopolis Confederation]

What's teh difference between liberalism and left-libertarianism or social libertarianism

Mosg left libertarians are libertarian socialists who reject liberalism because they reject its style of individualism and its tendency to produce capitalist economies. Social libertarianism is a branch of liberalism that favours higher welfare spending, more nationalisations, regulations and wealth redistribution, but places great importance on personal freedom. At least, that's my understanding of it.

[Cekoviu]

The Open Veins of Latin America, by Eduardo Galeano. It's an infuriating but excellent read.

Fiction-wise, I've heard some very good (leftist) things about Ursula K. Le Guin's work.

I kind of want to read Ayn Rand, just for the perspective.

It's a slog.

[Painisia]

What do you all think of communitarianism?

[Cekoviu]

See, this is the sort of thing that sometimes makes me think you Americans need to go through at least one right-wing dictatorship like we did. That sort of terrible experience is good at teaching you this stuff.

Sure, but you live through a left wing dictatorship first though, since it's your idea.

Liri's a libertarian, they don't want a dictatorship.

[Cekoviu]

What do you all think of communitarianism?

Neutral. It can go overboard sometimes, but isn't necessarily wrong in its premises.

[Painisia]

What do you all think of communitarianism?

Neutral. It can go overboard sometimes, but isn't necessarily wrong in its premises.

I like the thought of the community

[Libertarian Communist Planets]

Conflict Theory is far superior to Structural-Functionalism.

Yes, but it lacks revolutionary fervor. That is why I prefer the critical theories of Bhaskar, Crenshaw, Wallerstein, and others.

[Libertarian Communist Planets]

He had a Master's Degree I think. I know he didn't have a Ph.D.

That's the problem. He wasn't a sociologist (by usual sociological standards). It would be like calling someone with an M.S. in biology a physician.

[Libertarian Communist Planets]

Since I'm fairly cynical, I prefer the theory that basically boils everything down to conflict.

Well, conflict theorists (like Coser, Mills, and Dahrendorf) talk about conflict, but not about revolution. That is why I have never seen the point of conflict theory.

[Libertarian Communist Planets]

That was my entire point. My teacher was treating capitalism like a system of government, which it isn't.

From a Marxist sociological point of view, capitalism is economic, governmental (political), and much more. In Marxist sociology, we generally avoid economistic (economically reductionist) definitions of capitalism.

[Aellex]

That was my entire point. My teacher was treating capitalism like a system of government, which it isn't.

From a Marxist sociological point of view, capitalism is economic, governmental (political), and much more. In Marxist sociology, we generally avoid economistic (economically reductionist) definitions of capitalism.

That's rather stupid because it's the only thing that it actually is.

[Conserative Morality]

He had a Master's Degree I think. I know he didn't have a Ph.D.

That's the problem. He wasn't a sociologist (by usual sociological standards). It would be like calling someone with an M.S. in biology a physician.

is this a joke