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New Emeline wrote:

Sovaal wrote:Unregulated immigration can be a threat, especially if it begins to overwhelm local services and I frastructure, as well as the possibility of bringing along with it diseases.

None of those issues are what the great replacement theory suggests. The idea of the great replacement is basically just the white genocide conspiracy theory with nicer packaging.

Basically people wanting to find an excuse for their xenophobia who are too gutless to just admit what they really think.

Jackania yugo wrote:

Cekoviu wrote:More of a reactionary pseudoskeptic, tbh. I'm glad you stopped.

So...is the great replacement a load of farce?

Anything resembling it is the result of total incompetence and not a conspiracy, at least in the most likely scenario (that is, "government officials are idiots").

New Emeline wrote:

Sovaal wrote:Unregulated immigration can be a threat, especially if it begins to overwhelm local services and I frastructure, as well as the possibility of bringing along with it diseases.

None of those issues are what the great replacement theory suggests. The idea of the great replacement is basically just the white genocide conspiracy theory with nicer packaging.

Eh, you don’t need to be a white supremacist to acknowledge that completely unregulated immigration is a possible threat.

Proctopeo wrote:

Jackania yugo wrote:
So...is the great replacement a load of farce?

Anything resembling it is the result of total incompetence and not a conspiracy, at least in the most likely scenario (that is, "government officials are idiots").

Which tends to be the majority of the time.

Sovaal wrote:

New Emeline wrote:None of those issues are what the great replacement theory suggests. The idea of the great replacement is basically just the white genocide conspiracy theory with nicer packaging.

Eh, you don’t need to be a white supremacist to acknowledge that completely unregulated immigration is a possible threat.

I understand that, but the great replacement idea isn't just "immigration is dangerous". It is specifically "immigration is dangerous because white people are going to be outnumbered".

Albrenia wrote:

New Emeline wrote:None of those issues are what the great replacement theory suggests. The idea of the great replacement is basically just the white genocide conspiracy theory with nicer packaging.

Basically people wanting to find an excuse for their xenophobia who are too gutless to just admit what they really think.

Xenophobia needs no excuse! Xenophobia is a noble lady. We should have a Statue of Xenophobia.

The Parkus Empire wrote:

Albrenia wrote:
Basically people wanting to find an excuse for their xenophobia who are too gutless to just admit what they really think.

Xenophobia needs no excuse! Xenophobia is a noble lady. We should have a Statue of Xenophobia.

Er, what?

The Parkus Empire wrote:

Albrenia wrote:
Basically people wanting to find an excuse for their xenophobia who are too gutless to just admit what they really think.

Xenophobia needs no excuse! Xenophobia is a noble lady. We should have a Statue of Xenophobia.

They should give her a TV show.

Xenophobia: Warrior Princess.

New Emeline wrote:

Sovaal wrote:Eh, you don’t need to be a white supremacist to acknowledge that completely unregulated immigration is a possible threat.

I understand that, but the great replacement idea isn't just "immigration is dangerous". It is specifically "immigration is dangerous because white people are going to be outnumbered".

Well in that’s case that sounds pretty stupid.

New Emeline wrote:

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Xenophobia needs no excuse! Xenophobia is a noble lady. We should have a Statue of Xenophobia.

Er, what?

With a plaque underneath, reading: THE RIDE STOPS HERE

Sovaal wrote:

New Emeline wrote:I understand that, but the great replacement idea isn't just "immigration is dangerous". It is specifically "immigration is dangerous because white people are going to be outnumbered".

Well in that’s case that sounds pretty stupid.

Yeah. Twas me point.

Albrenia wrote:

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Xenophobia needs no excuse! Xenophobia is a noble lady. We should have a Statue of Xenophobia.

They should give her a TV show.

Xenophobia: Warrior Princess.

The theme could be our new national anthem

Isn't Xenophobia the name of one of the Ender's Game sequels?

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:Why?

The late Christopher Hitchens started out as a Trotskyist, but he moved, unfortunately, into neoconservatism.

Reikoku wrote:Yes. Be prepared for a lot of existentialist themes which might not make sense if you haven't read Sartre though.

Sartre's existential Marxism has all but died out. However, that gives some enterprising individual the opportunity to rediscover him and bring him into the 21ˢᵗ century.

The Multiversal Communist Collective wrote:

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:Why?

The late Christopher Hitchens started out as a Trotskyist, but he moved, unfortunately, into neoconservatism.

Was he really a neocon? I didn't know that.

Cekoviu wrote:

Jackania yugo wrote:
Then what is he if not a skeptic?

No, I used to watch but I've kinda lost interest.

More of a reactionary pseudoskeptic, tbh. I'm glad you stopped.

A non-progressive does not a reactionary make.

The Multiversal Communist Collective wrote:

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:Why?

The late Christopher Hitchens started out as a Trotskyist, but he moved, unfortunately, into neoconservatism.

You think anyone who dislikes Islam is a neo-con though. You think Harris and Nawaz are neo-cons.

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:

The Multiversal Communist Collective wrote:
The late Christopher Hitchens started out as a Trotskyist, but he moved, unfortunately, into neoconservatism.

You think anyone who dislikes Islam is a neo-con though. You think Harris and Nawaz are neo-cons.

He supported toppling any dictator who wasn't a liberal democrat, that's being a neocon.

United Muscovite Nations wrote:

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:You think anyone who dislikes Islam is a neo-con though. You think Harris and Nawaz are neo-cons.

He supported toppling any dictator who wasn't a liberal democrat, that's being a neocon.

Did he tho?

more or less yeah.

United Muscovite Nations wrote:

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:You think anyone who dislikes Islam is a neo-con though. You think Harris and Nawaz are neo-cons.

He supported toppling any dictator who wasn't a liberal democrat, that's being a neocon.

Dictators are generally a bad thing. The only reason we aren't toppling all of them is the cost of money and lives, and the difficulty in properly filling the power vacuum left behind.

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:

United Muscovite Nations wrote:He supported toppling any dictator who wasn't a liberal democrat, that's being a neocon.

Did he tho?

Yes, he was an active supporter of the Iraq War and for intervention against Bashar Assad.

Albrenia wrote:

United Muscovite Nations wrote:He supported toppling any dictator who wasn't a liberal democrat, that's being a neocon.

Dictators are generally a bad thing. The only reason we aren't toppling all of them is the cost of money and lives, and the difficulty in properly filling the power vacuum left behind.

No.

The reason we don't topple some dictators is they do what we want. The reason we do topple some dictators is because they don't do what we want.

Albrenia wrote:

United Muscovite Nations wrote:He supported toppling any dictator who wasn't a liberal democrat, that's being a neocon.

Dictators are generally a bad thing. The only reason we aren't toppling all of them is the cost of money and lives, and the difficulty in properly filling the power vacuum left behind.

And neocons like Hitchens think that cost is irrelevant because the people living in those countries have to have liberal democracy exported to them at all costs.