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Was Trotsky Polyamorous?

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The Huskar Social Union
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Thu Mar 22, 2018 3:38 pm

Bakery Hill wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Rap is shit though.

"all they ever say is the n word and beating up on hoes and drugs"
Nah, i just dont think its that great, none of it does anything for me.

MERIZoC wrote:"Rap is all bad" is an attitude based in latent racism and classism, deriving from the believer's view that individuals that are part of such cultural circles are vile and inferior, dont @ me
Or i just think it sounds shit and that it does nothing for me.
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Ostroeuropa
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Thu Mar 22, 2018 3:40 pm

MERIZoC wrote:"Rap is all bad" is an attitude based in latent racism and classism, deriving from the believer's view that individuals that are part of such cultural circles are vile and inferior, dont @ me


I've heard one or two I like, but it mostly just oozes with insecurity, misandry and misogyny, and asserts toxic norms as positive self-actualizations.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebXne0Pl3H8

S'fine.
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There is an out of control trolley speeding towards Jeremy Bentham, who is tied to the track. You can pull the lever to cause the trolley to switch tracks, but on the other track is Immanuel Kant. Bentham is clutching the only copy in the universe of The Critique of Pure Reason. Kant is clutching the only copy in the universe of The Principles of Moral Legislation. Both men are shouting at you that they have recently started to reconsider their ethical stances.

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Postby Bakery Hill » Thu Mar 22, 2018 3:46 pm

controversial but true: hamilton is the only good rap
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Thu Mar 22, 2018 3:46 pm



*smiles*
No comment.

Bakery Hill wrote:controversial but true: hamilton is the only good rap


Musicals is a different matter. I love musicals.
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There is an out of control trolley speeding towards Jeremy Bentham, who is tied to the track. You can pull the lever to cause the trolley to switch tracks, but on the other track is Immanuel Kant. Bentham is clutching the only copy in the universe of The Critique of Pure Reason. Kant is clutching the only copy in the universe of The Principles of Moral Legislation. Both men are shouting at you that they have recently started to reconsider their ethical stances.

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Postby Bakery Hill » Thu Mar 22, 2018 3:48 pm


Ostro I'm sorry if you aren't going to the gulag for aiding and abetting furry support, you will most certainly be charged with being a member of an online gang engaged in the capitalist extortion of the working class.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Thu Mar 22, 2018 3:52 pm

Bakery Hill wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
*smiles*
No comment.

Ostro I'm sorry if you aren't going to the gulag for aiding and abetting furry support, you will most certainly be charged with being a member of an online gang engaged in the capitalist extortion of the working class.


Does it help matters if it was to raise funds for a semi-shady group of syndicalists working on various projects? By semi-shady, I mean, half of us were shady. Stalin robbed banks, I did shakedowns.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8j8BmgeYLA

*Whistles and walks away*
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There is an out of control trolley speeding towards Jeremy Bentham, who is tied to the track. You can pull the lever to cause the trolley to switch tracks, but on the other track is Immanuel Kant. Bentham is clutching the only copy in the universe of The Critique of Pure Reason. Kant is clutching the only copy in the universe of The Principles of Moral Legislation. Both men are shouting at you that they have recently started to reconsider their ethical stances.

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Postby MERIZoC » Thu Mar 22, 2018 3:52 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:
MERIZoC wrote:"Rap is all bad" is an attitude based in latent racism and classism, deriving from the believer's view that individuals that are part of such cultural circles are vile and inferior, dont @ me


I've heard one or two I like, but it mostly just oozes with insecurity, misandry and misogyny, and asserts toxic norms as positive self-actualizations.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebXne0Pl3H8

S'fine.

Bakery Hill wrote:controversial but true: hamilton is the only good rap

what the fuck

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Postby Kubra » Thu Mar 22, 2018 4:00 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Aellex wrote:Ban? I was promised by you a purge.
Are you betraying your engagement to the Committee, Camarade Bakery ?


What's wrong with Furries?
Furries are cool.
welp looks like it's time to arrange a trial everyone
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Postby Bakery Hill » Thu Mar 22, 2018 4:01 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Bakery Hill wrote:Ostro I'm sorry if you aren't going to the gulag for aiding and abetting furry support, you will most certainly be charged with being a member of an online gang engaged in the capitalist extortion of the working class.


Does it help matters if it was to raise funds for a semi-shady group of syndicalists working on various projects? By semi-shady, I mean, half of us were shady. Stalin robbed banks, I did shakedowns.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8j8BmgeYLA

*Whistles and walks away*

I spent six months on Second Life and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for syndicalist otherkin, for furries and scalies. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for syndicalism. Looking back on it, I might have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three districts. I operated on three websites.
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Postby Bakery Hill » Thu Mar 22, 2018 4:03 pm

MERIZoC wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
I've heard one or two I like, but it mostly just oozes with insecurity, misandry and misogyny, and asserts toxic norms as positive self-actualizations.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebXne0Pl3H8

S'fine.

Bakery Hill wrote:controversial but true: hamilton is the only good rap

what the fuck

it's what america was really founded on

racial equality and tight rhymes
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Thu Mar 22, 2018 4:03 pm

Kubra wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
What's wrong with Furries?
Furries are cool.
welp looks like it's time to arrange a trial everyone


I've consistently defended furries whenever the topic has come up, which is usually when people who aren't furries feel the need to talk about them and how uncool they are when they're not around, much like the christian pastors and their need to denounce homosex.

If you guys want fursuits, I know some people who will know a supplier.
Ostro.MOV

There is an out of control trolley speeding towards Jeremy Bentham, who is tied to the track. You can pull the lever to cause the trolley to switch tracks, but on the other track is Immanuel Kant. Bentham is clutching the only copy in the universe of The Critique of Pure Reason. Kant is clutching the only copy in the universe of The Principles of Moral Legislation. Both men are shouting at you that they have recently started to reconsider their ethical stances.

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The Xenopolis Confederation
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Postby The Xenopolis Confederation » Thu Mar 22, 2018 4:04 pm

Aellex wrote:
Kubra wrote: yeah until the sans culottes storm in and demand terror be made the order of the day

Terror is nothing but prompt, severe and inflexible Justice; an emanation of Virtue in its purest form. ;D

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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Thu Mar 22, 2018 4:05 pm

MERIZoC wrote:"Rap is all bad" is an attitude based in latent racism and classism, deriving from the believer's view that individuals that are part of such cultural circles are vile and inferior, dont @ me


Rap is the ultimate expression of late stage capitalism. We live in an era where the bourgeoisie has succesfully sold and extracted profit even from unimaginative gutter sentiments spoken atop artificial drum patterns and synths. Sad!
Are these "human rights" in the room with us right now?
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Postby Kubra » Thu Mar 22, 2018 4:06 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Kubra wrote: welp looks like it's time to arrange a trial everyone


I've consistently defended furries whenever the topic has come up, which is usually when people who aren't furries feel the need to talk about them and how uncool they are when they're not around, much like the christian pastors and their need to denounce homosex.

If you guys want fursuits, I know some people who will know a supplier.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Thu Mar 22, 2018 4:06 pm

Bakery Hill wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
Does it help matters if it was to raise funds for a semi-shady group of syndicalists working on various projects? By semi-shady, I mean, half of us were shady. Stalin robbed banks, I did shakedowns.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8j8BmgeYLA

*Whistles and walks away*

I spent six months on Second Life and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for syndicalist otherkin, for furries and scalies. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for syndicalism. Looking back on it, I might have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three districts. I operated on three websites.


*chuckles*
Yeah, it wasn't that great, a few thousand. Still, the guys are still around and we're in contact occasionally, and we managed to spread the word a little. The money went on some now dead websites and a bit of leafleting, and covering our investment. More than most manage, and I felt like a gangster at the time, so don't rob me of my feels.

We moved on to other means. I'm off to sociology "Mens rights mens rights mens rights. My economics? Oh, i'm a syndicalist, let me tell you how.", some of the others are off doing other shit, one or two journos.

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Who knew all we needed was a goddamn hearts of iron mod. Made us all look like chumps.
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There is an out of control trolley speeding towards Jeremy Bentham, who is tied to the track. You can pull the lever to cause the trolley to switch tracks, but on the other track is Immanuel Kant. Bentham is clutching the only copy in the universe of The Critique of Pure Reason. Kant is clutching the only copy in the universe of The Principles of Moral Legislation. Both men are shouting at you that they have recently started to reconsider their ethical stances.

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Postby The East Marches II » Thu Mar 22, 2018 4:07 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Kubra wrote: welp looks like it's time to arrange a trial everyone


I've consistently defended furries whenever the topic has come up, which is usually when people who aren't furries feel the need to talk about them and how uncool they are when they're not around, much like the christian pastors and their need to denounce homosex.

If you guys want fursuits, I know some people who will know a supplier.


Ostro, you are a good sort but this isn't the hill to die. For God's sake save yourself.

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Postby Kubra » Thu Mar 22, 2018 4:07 pm

“Atomic war is inevitable. It will destroy half of humanity: it is going to destroy immense human riches. It is very possible. The atomic war is going to provoke a true inferno on Earth. But it will not impede Communism.”
Comrade J. Posadas

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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Thu Mar 22, 2018 4:09 pm

Oh god is this now the mixtape sharing thread.
Are these "human rights" in the room with us right now?
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Thu Mar 22, 2018 4:09 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
I've consistently defended furries whenever the topic has come up, which is usually when people who aren't furries feel the need to talk about them and how uncool they are when they're not around, much like the christian pastors and their need to denounce homosex.

If you guys want fursuits, I know some people who will know a supplier.


Ostro, you are a good sort but this isn't the hill to die. For God's sake save yourself.


I'm mostly joking.
Furries don't care what you say about them. Nor do I. :p Keep your hill.
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There is an out of control trolley speeding towards Jeremy Bentham, who is tied to the track. You can pull the lever to cause the trolley to switch tracks, but on the other track is Immanuel Kant. Bentham is clutching the only copy in the universe of The Critique of Pure Reason. Kant is clutching the only copy in the universe of The Principles of Moral Legislation. Both men are shouting at you that they have recently started to reconsider their ethical stances.

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Postby Napkiraly » Thu Mar 22, 2018 4:13 pm

Dumb Ideologies wrote:We live in an era where the bourgeoisie has succesfully sold and extracted profit even from unimaginative gutter sentiments spoken atop artificial drum patterns and synths. Sad!

Did punk and hard rock become popular again when I wasn't looking?
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Thu Mar 22, 2018 4:18 pm

Napkiraly wrote:
Dumb Ideologies wrote:We live in an era where the bourgeoisie has succesfully sold and extracted profit even from unimaginative gutter sentiments spoken atop artificial drum patterns and synths. Sad!

Did punk and hard rock become popular again when I wasn't looking?


My feels.
Punk, hard rock, classic, and political shit.

Dumb Ideologies wrote:Oh god is this now the mixtape sharing thread.


We need a new godwins law.
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There is an out of control trolley speeding towards Jeremy Bentham, who is tied to the track. You can pull the lever to cause the trolley to switch tracks, but on the other track is Immanuel Kant. Bentham is clutching the only copy in the universe of The Critique of Pure Reason. Kant is clutching the only copy in the universe of The Principles of Moral Legislation. Both men are shouting at you that they have recently started to reconsider their ethical stances.

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Postby Kramanica » Thu Mar 22, 2018 4:21 pm

MERIZoC wrote:"Rap is all bad" is an attitude based in latent racism and classism, deriving from the believer's view that individuals that are part of such cultural circles are vile and inferior, dont @ me

Or it might just be shit.
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Postby Kubra » Thu Mar 22, 2018 4:24 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:
Ostro, you are a good sort but this isn't the hill to die. For God's sake save yourself.


I'm mostly joking.
Furries don't care what you say about them. Nor do I. :p Keep your hill.
and ur not on trial i have no judicial powers to stage show trials
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Postby Albrenia » Thu Mar 22, 2018 4:24 pm

Kramanica wrote:
MERIZoC wrote:"Rap is all bad" is an attitude based in latent racism and classism, deriving from the believer's view that individuals that are part of such cultural circles are vile and inferior, dont @ me

Or it might just be shit.


Can't stand the stuff myself. Then again I can't stand a lot of music, like boy bands and most country music...

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Postby The South Falls » Thu Mar 22, 2018 4:26 pm

Kramanica wrote:
MERIZoC wrote:"Rap is all bad" is an attitude based in latent racism and classism, deriving from the believer's view that individuals that are part of such cultural circles are vile and inferior, dont @ me

Or it might just be shit.

Some rap is absolute shit, like Gucci Gang. But others, like Eminem, and the rap that tells a story, are good. I really like NWA and other rap groups, because while people slap their raps as 'shit', I think it tells a good story.
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