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Was Trotsky Polyamorous?

Yes
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Yes
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Postby Cekoviu » Tue May 01, 2018 7:01 pm

Valgora wrote:
New Emeline wrote:I don't dislike the questions, but I think the direction it moves you in because of your answers can be incorrect.

It seems to ignore that private property =/= personal property to a socialist.

I mean, it was built by an ancap, so it might not be the best place to go if you want nuanced information on socialism. :P
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Postby New Emeline » Tue May 01, 2018 7:02 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
Valgora wrote:It seems to ignore that private property =/= personal property to a socialist.

I mean, it was built by an ancap, so it might not be the best place to go if you want nuanced information on socialism. :P

wait really

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Postby Valgora » Tue May 01, 2018 7:02 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
Valgora wrote:It seems to ignore that private property =/= personal property to a socialist.

I mean, it was built by an ancap, so it might not be the best place to go if you want nuanced information on socialism. :P

That's true.
If only it was built by a an Anarcho-Mutualist.
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Postby Cekoviu » Tue May 01, 2018 7:04 pm

New Emeline wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:I mean, it was built by an ancap, so it might not be the best place to go if you want nuanced information on socialism. :P

wait really

A quick glance at their other projects is illuminating.
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Postby New Emeline » Tue May 01, 2018 7:04 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
New Emeline wrote:wait really

A quick glance at their other projects is illuminating.

hmm

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Postby The Liberated Territories » Tue May 01, 2018 7:05 pm

New Emeline wrote:50 internet points to anyone who gets this meme:


ha
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Postby New Emeline » Tue May 01, 2018 7:07 pm

The Liberated Territories wrote:
New Emeline wrote:50 internet points to anyone who gets this meme:


ha

50 points to you comrade

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Postby The Liberated Territories » Tue May 01, 2018 7:09 pm

New Emeline wrote:
The Liberated Territories wrote:
ha

50 points to you comrade


What are you, some sort of Chomskyist?
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Postby New Emeline » Tue May 01, 2018 7:10 pm

The Liberated Territories wrote:
New Emeline wrote:50 points to you comrade


What are you, some sort of Chomskyist?

no
but I said 50 points if you get the meme
you got the meme
50 points

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Postby Geneviev » Tue May 01, 2018 7:11 pm

The Liberated Territories wrote:
New Emeline wrote:50 points to you comrade


What are you, some sort of Chomskyist?

I keep seeing Chimpsky instead of Chomsky.
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Postby Genivaria » Tue May 01, 2018 7:18 pm

Democratic Communist Federation wrote:I am a libertarian socialist with Spekr.

"libertarian socialist"
"You support light restrictions on cultural freedom and heavy restricts on economic freedom, oppose most private property rights..."
That's not what Libertarian Socialist fucking means you hack.
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Postby New Emeline » Tue May 01, 2018 7:19 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Democratic Communist Federation wrote:I am a libertarian socialist with Spekr.

"libertarian socialist"
"You support light restrictions on cultural freedom and heavy restricts on economic freedom, oppose most private property rights..."
That's not what Libertarian Socialist fucking means you hack.

like cekoviu said
ancap made it

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Postby Genivaria » Tue May 01, 2018 7:21 pm

New Emeline wrote:
Genivaria wrote:"libertarian socialist"
"You support light restrictions on cultural freedom and heavy restricts on economic freedom, oppose most private property rights..."
That's not what Libertarian Socialist fucking means you hack.

like cekoviu said
ancap made it

That explains it.
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Postby West Leas Oros » Tue May 01, 2018 7:23 pm

New Emeline wrote:
Valgora wrote:I don't like some of the questions it asks.

I don't dislike the questions, but I think the direction it moves you in because of your answers can be incorrect.

It labeled me as democratic socialist, as in, screw all private property, but the state can stay, so long as we don’t get dictatorship. My problem is with the use of the term economic freedom, like seriously, the freedom to screw others over?
Just your friendly neighborhood democratic socialist revisionist traitor.
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The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:Oros, no. Please. You were the chosen one. You were meant to debunk the tankies, not join them. Bring balance to the left, not leave it in darkness.

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Postby Genivaria » Tue May 01, 2018 7:24 pm

West Leas Oros wrote:
New Emeline wrote:I don't dislike the questions, but I think the direction it moves you in because of your answers can be incorrect.

It labeled me as democratic socialist, as in, screw all private property, but the state can stay, so long as we don’t get dictatorship. My problem is with the use of the term economic freedom, like seriously, the freedom to screw others over?

It makes me twitch when some use 'economic freedom' to mean new age feudalism.
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Postby New Emeline » Tue May 01, 2018 7:25 pm

Genivaria wrote:
West Leas Oros wrote:It labeled me as democratic socialist, as in, screw all private property, but the state can stay, so long as we don’t get dictatorship. My problem is with the use of the term economic freedom, like seriously, the freedom to screw others over?

It makes me twitch when some use 'economic freedom' to mean new age feudalism.

What's freedom without the freedom to decrease other's freedom? :^)

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Postby West Leas Oros » Tue May 01, 2018 7:27 pm

New Emeline wrote:
Genivaria wrote:It makes me twitch when some use 'economic freedom' to mean new age feudalism.

What's freedom without the freedom to decrease other's freedom? :^)

Right libertarianism is about opposing “government tyranny” and promoting private tyranny.

(I honestly preferred when it was about attraction to 14-19 year olds. Says a lot about the ideology)
Just your friendly neighborhood democratic socialist revisionist traitor.
PMT nation. Economically to the left of Karl Marx. Social justice is a bourgeois plot.
Brothers and sisters are natural enemies, like fascists and communists. Or libertarians and communists. Or social democrats and communists. Or communists and other communists! Damn commies, they ruined communism!"

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:Oros, no. Please. You were the chosen one. You were meant to debunk the tankies, not join them. Bring balance to the left, not leave it in darkness.

WLO Public News: Protest turns violent as Orosian Anarchists burn building. 2 found dead, 8 injured. Investigation continues.

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Postby The Liberated Territories » Tue May 01, 2018 7:27 pm

Geneviev wrote:
The Liberated Territories wrote:
What are you, some sort of Chomskyist?

I keep seeing Chimpsky instead of Chomsky.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nim_Chimpsky
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Postby Geneviev » Tue May 01, 2018 7:28 pm

The Liberated Territories wrote:
Geneviev wrote:I keep seeing Chimpsky instead of Chomsky.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nim_Chimpsky

And now I know why. :lol2: That's the worst name for any animal.
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Postby New Emeline » Tue May 01, 2018 7:28 pm

The Liberated Territories wrote:
Geneviev wrote:I keep seeing Chimpsky instead of Chomsky.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nim_Chimpsky

:rofl:

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Postby West Leas Oros » Tue May 01, 2018 7:29 pm

The Liberated Territories wrote:
Geneviev wrote:I keep seeing Chimpsky instead of Chomsky.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nim_Chimpsky

This actually happened. Perfect.
Just your friendly neighborhood democratic socialist revisionist traitor.
PMT nation. Economically to the left of Karl Marx. Social justice is a bourgeois plot.
Brothers and sisters are natural enemies, like fascists and communists. Or libertarians and communists. Or social democrats and communists. Or communists and other communists! Damn commies, they ruined communism!"

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:Oros, no. Please. You were the chosen one. You were meant to debunk the tankies, not join them. Bring balance to the left, not leave it in darkness.

WLO Public News: Protest turns violent as Orosian Anarchists burn building. 2 found dead, 8 injured. Investigation continues.

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Postby Cekoviu » Tue May 01, 2018 7:43 pm

The Liberated Territories wrote:
Geneviev wrote:I keep seeing Chimpsky instead of Chomsky.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nim_Chimpsky

That's beautiful. :lol2:
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Postby Albrenia » Tue May 01, 2018 7:54 pm

Nim Chimpsky is the best thing ever.

Unless you count Gnome Chompsky.

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Postby New Emeline » Tue May 01, 2018 7:55 pm

Albrenia wrote:Nim Chimpsky is the best thing ever.

Unless you count Gnome Chompsky.

What?

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Postby Albrenia » Tue May 01, 2018 7:58 pm

New Emeline wrote:
Albrenia wrote:Nim Chimpsky is the best thing ever.

Unless you count Gnome Chompsky.

What?


There's a garden gnome in Left 4 Dead 2 (also in Half-Life, I believe) that you can take to rescue with you through the zombie horde. He is known as Gnome Chompsky.

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