Left Wing Discussion Thread IV: Oh Hai Marx

[Dumb Ideologies]

I'm not a fan of the political compass. It's really biased (just look at the election plots, they move every party 3 points northeast) and a lot of its questions are weird and misleading. I think that 8values is the best of them. Spekr is quite biased, but its bias is mainly in the phrasing of the question like, "people should be prosecuted for excercising their right to self-defense," and in the blurb on the results like "You're so and so, support not enough property rights and not enough civil liberties," rather than in the scoring.

I hate 8values.

Interesting. I've found it to be about the best there is.

[Cekoviu]

I hate 8values.

Interesting. I've found it to be about the best there is.

It does seem to put you a bit more to the economic left than you actually are - maybe it's biased towards the American POV?

[Thermodolia]

Interesting. I've found it to be about the best there is.

It does seem to put you a bit more to the economic left than you actually are - maybe it's biased towards the American POV?

Ya that’s why I’m not a big fan of it.

[Asherahan]

I hate 8values.

Interesting. I've found it to be about the best there is.

It says I am a democratic socialist... What is your opinion about that?

Before anybody responds check my sig.

[Cekoviu]

Interesting. I've found it to be about the best there is.

It says I am a democratic socialist... What is your opinion about that?

Before anybody responds check my sig.

They do say the ideological classification is very rough and not as accurate as the actual statistics.

[Asherahan]

It says I am a democratic socialist... What is your opinion about that?

Before anybody responds check my sig.

They do say the ideological classification is very rough and not as accurate as the actual statistics.

Okay and what does democratic socialism gotta do with Authoritarian Socialism like Marxism-Leninism which is the what I started as and is one of the core ideologies of what I believe in.

[Great Minarchistan]

Best political compass is filteries, prove me wrong

[Liriena]

Best political compass is filteries, prove me wrong

[West Leas Oros]

Best political compass is filteries, prove me wrong

Is it bad that I belong in the libertarian right on this graph? Minus the free market part.

[Valgora]

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Is it bad that I belong in the libertarian right on this graph? Minus the free market part.

...... Maybe........
It depends if it applies to this meme specifically.

[West Leas Oros]

Is it bad that I belong in the libertarian right on this graph? Minus the free market part.

...... Maybe........

Tbf the legal age in some countries is as low as 13...

[Valgora]

...... Maybe........

Tbf the legal age in some countries is as low as 13...

If I remember correctly, France didn't have an actual age of consent until recently.

Most countries have it as 16-18 if I remember correctly.

[Liriena]

...... Maybe........

Tbf the legal age in some countries is as low as 13...

IIRC, even then there are caveats, and there's no "free baby market".

[West Leas Oros]

Tbf the legal age in some countries is as low as 13...

IIRC, even then there are caveats, and there's no "free baby market".

Tf is a free baby market? Some capitalist sh*t getting weird m8.

[Genivaria]

IIRC, even then there are caveats, and there's no "free baby market".

Tf is a free baby market? Some capitalist sh*t getting weird m8.

I'd assume some invented complaint made by those who complain about the 'decadent west'.

[Ostroeuropa]

Best political compass is filteries, prove me wrong

Oh no, i'm a conservative! Welp, time to crack out the ted cruz t-shirts.

...
Mebbe a little left authoritarian sometimes, but nobodies supposed to know that.

So ted cruz with a surveillance state and loads of funding for Mi5 off the books.

[West Leas Oros]

Oh no, i'm a conservative! Welp, time to crack out the ted cruz t-shirts.

...
Mebbe a little left authoritarian sometimes, but nobodies supposed to know that.

So ted cruz with a surveillance state and loads of funding for Mi5 off the books.

I’m a right libertarian. Some libertarian left, a bit Authoritarian left, anyway... can someone help me find Aleppo? I forgot where it is for some reason.

[Valgora]

Oh no, i'm a conservative! Welp, time to crack out the ted cruz t-shirts.

...
Mebbe a little left authoritarian sometimes, but nobodies supposed to know that.

So ted cruz with a surveillance state and loads of funding for Mi5 off the books.

I’m a right libertarian. Some libertarian left, a bit Authoritarian left, anyway... can someone help me find Aleppo? I forgot where it is for some reason.

What?
I get the Aleppo joke.
However, I though you were a Democratic Socialist (not the modern version).

[Ostroeuropa]

Another rape victim came forward to a MRM support reddit today to talk about being forced to pay child support over their rape producing a child and this case having gone through court.

You hear that?
It's crickets.

If you think feminist campaigns in the media are sincere about equality, you have some explaining to do for their constant deafening silence on these type of scandals. A woman being put in this situation would be a national scandal that they would never shut up about, it would form one of their go-to examples for the Historical oppression of teh wimminz from now until the end of time.

Yet, these feminist journalists, their organizations, their institutions, their activists, do nothing here. Nothing. When they speak and pretend to be for equality, they are lying. They are merely gynocentric bigots. Those of you who don't want to affiliate with them should perhaps explain why it seems that feminism put into practice in institutions is so uniformly misandrist, and what's different about your feminism that would change that.

By the way, he came to us, not you. Think about that too while you're at it.

By the way, Child support was a feminist demand, and these kind of oversights are often used to argue an institution is misogynist, when they don't account for female biology and such.
What conclusion can we draw from that about the state of the feminist movement and its demands? alimony too and such.

If feminism historically wasn't a gynocentric and bigoted movement, then why did they demand child support laws that allow this type of thing to occur? The oversight stems from the gynocentrism.

No different to a prison system designed by men just up and forgetting to stock tampons and such, or denying them as contraband.

Here's a simple checklist that should hopefully manage to penetrate some skulls by the way its ordered:

Do you acknowledge the historical transphobia of the feminist movement and the latent problems this causes?
Do you acknowledge the historical eurocentrism and racism of the feminist movement and the latent problems this causes?
Do you acknowledge the historical misandry and gynocentrism of the feminist movement and the latent problems this causes?

The latter, ofcourse, means "It's a gender equality movement" isn't exactly something you can legitimately claim anymore, certainly not historically and not really currently either. But admitting the problem is the only way you'll resolve it.

The feminist demand for child support was an inherently anti-rape victim demand from the get go, and even a cursory level of genuine consideration for men would have made that obvious. That it became one of their major causes is revealing of how thoroughly gynocentric the worldview was and still is, and how the "Caring about men too" was superficial, self-serving, and disingenuous. No actual thought was put into it.

[West Leas Oros]

I’m a right libertarian. Some libertarian left, a bit Authoritarian left, anyway... can someone help me find Aleppo? I forgot where it is for some reason.

What?
I get the Aleppo joke.
However, I though you were a Democratic Socialist (not the modern version).

I’m right libertarian, according to that chart. I’m irl a demsoc, but that graph labels me a mix of all of those except authoritarian right.

[Valgora]

What?
I get the Aleppo joke.
However, I though you were a Democratic Socialist (not the modern version).

I’m right libertarian, according to that chart. I’m irl a demsoc, but that graph labels me a mix of all of those except authoritarian right.

Oh.... you were talking about the meme.

[Cekoviu]

Is it bad that I belong in the libertarian right on this graph? Minus the free market part.

Very.

[Genivaria]

Happy May Day!

[West Leas Oros]

Is it bad that I belong in the libertarian right on this graph? Minus the free market part.

Very.

Oh no.

[Valgora]

Happy May Day!

It's actually kinda weird that the US doesn't celebrate Labor Day on May Day.
Because International Workers' Day was created to commemorate the Haymarket riot in Chicago.
I don't remember why the US's actual Labor Day is on the first Monday of September.

Anyways....

HAPPY FUCKIN' INTERNATIONAL WORKERS' DAY!