Left Wing Discussion Thread IV: Oh Hai Marx

[Great Minarchistan]

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Summer has begun. PACK UP THE GUNS!

[West Leas Oros]

these snow flake nations should be burned and i will make them fall pactolase will rise and Dixie park will be by her side as we crush Communism and othe left wing ideas posting.php?mode=reply&f=20&t=437423#

Hate to tell you, but commies and snowflakes are two different things. We gommies are very not snowflakes.

[Dumb Ideologies]

Yes, but the process will only be complete when the Tories are kicked out, the mini-EU "free trade" agreements May and co are obsessed with all get torn up, and we rebuild our infrastructure and industry in the national interest behind a big beautiful tariff wall.

Or you could've stayed and not had to waste resources on rebuilding your entire infrastructure.

The need to rebuild Britain is not resultant from the decision to leave the European Union but instead partly reflects it in its reasoning. Joining the EU was an early part of a long-term deliberate Westminster-elite strategy of selling out the domestic working class by simultaneously opening the economy up to imports and removing state support for industry, allowing the progressive taxation and social/infrastructure spending that supported the dignity of the working class to be shredded.

Deindustrialization and shifting towards an economy centred excessively on finance and services was good for Tories and international capital because it broke the economic and political power of organised labour, whose demands for a greater role in running the economy had been becoming increasingly strident.

The Westminster criminals and their finance capital allies hoodwinked the people to join, despite campaigning from the hard left against the plot, setting the groundwork for the wider move to an American-style laissez-faire capitalism under Thatcher, the 'London Bubble', and the uncaring running-down of our towns and cities.

[Cekoviu]

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So this is NS summer.

[Liriena]

I've been spekd as a libertarian socialist. Woohoo! :3

[Liriena]

these snow flake nations should be burned and i will make them fall pactolase will rise and Dixie park will be by her side as we crush Communism and othe left wing ideas posting.php?mode=reply&f=20&t=437423#

Boring.

[Cekoviu]

Or you could've stayed and not had to waste resources on rebuilding your entire infrastructure.

The need to rebuild Britain is not resultant from the decision to leave the European Union but instead partly reflects it in its reasoning. Joining the EU was an early part of a long-term deliberate Westminster-elite strategy of selling out the domestic working class by simultaneously opening the economy up to imports and removing state support for industry, allowing the progressive taxation and social/infrastructure spending that supported the dignity of the working class and to be shredded.

Deindustrialization and shifting towards an economy centred excessively on finance and services broke the economic and political power of organised labour, whose demands for a greater role in running the economy had driven successive governments had been becoming increasingly strident.

The Westminster criminals and their finance capital allies hoodwinked the people to join, despite campaigning from the hard left, setting the groundwork for the wider move to an American-style laissez-faire capitalism under Thatcher, the 'London Bubble', and the uncaring running-down of our towns and cities.

Maybe some of that actually happened, but you're making the infrastructure-rebuilding far worse by leaving.

[Painisia]

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Springtime

[Great Minarchistan]

setting the groundwork for the wider move to an American-style laissez-faire capitalism

:thronking:

under Thatcher

Le thatcherite minarchist state

[Liriena]

these snow flake nations should be burned and i will make them fall pactolase will rise and Dixie park will be by her side as we crush Communism and othe left wing ideas posting.php?mode=reply&f=20&t=437423#

Springtime

Relevant.

The need to rebuild Britain is not resultant from the decision to leave the European Union but instead partly reflects it in its reasoning. Joining the EU was an early part of a long-term deliberate Westminster-elite strategy of selling out the domestic working class by simultaneously opening the economy up to imports and removing state support for industry, allowing the progressive taxation and social/infrastructure spending that supported the dignity of the working class and to be shredded.

Deindustrialization and shifting towards an economy centred excessively on finance and services broke the economic and political power of organised labour, whose demands for a greater role in running the economy had driven successive governments had been becoming increasingly strident.

The Westminster criminals and their finance capital allies hoodwinked the people to join, despite campaigning from the hard left, setting the groundwork for the wider move to an American-style laissez-faire capitalism under Thatcher, the 'London Bubble', and the uncaring running-down of our towns and cities.

Maybe some of that actually happened, but you're making the infrastructure-rebuilding far worse by leaving.

I do think there's an opportunity for a different sort, less neoliberal and more... progressive... kind of international cooperation and trade in Brexit. Of course, that's provided the Tories don't stay in power.

[Cekoviu]

setting the groundwork for the wider move to an American-style laissez-faire capitalism

:thronking:

>unironically thinking you can't have laissez-faire capitalism if government spending exists

[Proctopeo]

Sorry for sounding like an idoit.

I understand now.

SJW=bad
alt-right=bad
far left=bad
far right=bad
social group surpermacy of any kind=bad

everything else=50/50


centrism= G O D Fantastic.

Congratulations on reducing everything to black-and-white dichotomies!

Fits right in here at the LWDT

I wouldn't say so, but your worldview seems to be a bit reductionist.

well, I am 16. Still got a lot to learn.

So...I'm english...was brexit a good idea for my nation?

It was a good idea. It's the execution that's the problem.

[Great Minarchistan]

:thronking:

>unironically thinking you can't have laissez-faire capitalism if government spending exists

>unironically thinking that a 45% government spending (equivalent to fucking wartime periods) is laissez faire

[Cekoviu]

Maybe some of that actually happened, but you're making the infrastructure-rebuilding far worse by leaving.

I do think there's an opportunity for a different sort, less neoliberal and more... progressive... kind of international cooperation and trade in Brexit. Of course, that's provided the Tories don't stay in power.

Possibly, but that's not necessarily a bonus to me. And DI seems much more the protectionist type.

[Gim]

>unironically thinking you can't have laissez-faire capitalism if government spending exists

>unironically thinking that a 45% government spending (equivalent to fucking wartime periods) is laissez faire

Yo, no need to swear here. We get you, brother, we get you.

[Dumb Ideologies]

Maybe some of that actually happened, but you're making the infrastructure-rebuilding far worse by leaving.

It would be much more difficult to raise protective tariff walls, renationalize our essential infrastructure and restrict undercutting of the domestic workforce by foreign labour whilst remaining in the EU. For such a project it is important to have access to all the levers rather than trying to play 26D chess.

[Great Minarchistan]

>unironically thinking that a 45% government spending (equivalent to fucking wartime periods) is laissez faire

Yo, no need to swear here. We get you, brother, we get you.

It's just that US government is at the size of world war periods over the last what, 40 years?
Gotta love how half of that is unironically welfare

[Cekoviu]

>unironically thinking you can't have laissez-faire capitalism if government spending exists

>unironically thinking that a 45% government spending (equivalent to fucking wartime periods) is laissez faire

>thinking that my rebuttal of a poor argument means i think the us is laissez-faire

[Cekoviu]

Yo, no need to swear here. We get you, brother, we get you.

It's just that US government is at the size of world war periods over the last what, 40 years?
Gotta love how half of that is unironically welfare

Especially during le free marketeer presidents Bush and Reagan. :thbonkring:

Maybe some of that actually happened, but you're making the infrastructure-rebuilding far worse by leaving.

It would be much more difficult to raise protective tariff walls, renationalize our essential infrastructure and restrict undercutting of the domestic workforce by foreign labour whilst remaining in the EU.

Yeah, that's not a bad thing.

[Hammer Britannia]

these snow flake nations should be burned and i will make them fall pactolase will rise and Dixie park will be by her side as we crush Communism and othe left wing ideas posting.php?mode=reply&f=20&t=437423#

LET THE SUMMER GAMES BEGIN!

[Arkhall]

>unironically thinking that a 45% government spending (equivalent to fucking wartime periods) is laissez faire

Yo, no need to swear here. We get you, brother, we get you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pk9CLicNyIg

[Sovaal]

these snow flake nations should be burned and i will make them fall pactolase will rise and Dixie park will be by her side as we crush Communism and othe left wing ideas posting.php?mode=reply&f=20&t=437423#

Summer has begun. PACK UP THE GUNS!

But I just got them out...

[Great Minarchistan]

>unironically thinking that a 45% government spending (equivalent to fucking wartime periods) is laissez faire

>thinking that my rebuttal of a poor argument means i think the us is laissez-faire

>Thinking that my primary argument was that laissez faire equals no government spending

[Dumb Ideologies]

Yeah, that's not a bad thing.

We'll have to agree to disagree, my friend.

[Painisia]

Well, the US IS a laissez-faire paradise (especially for the multinationals and rich CEOs). Lobbying corporations are the real rulers of `Murica