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Postby Cekoviu » Fri Mar 23, 2018 8:35 am

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Cekoviu wrote:"Country is all bad" is an attitude based in latent racism and classism, deriving from the believers view that individuals that are part of such cultural circles are vile and inferior

17th Century country is pretty good. Much rural folk music is, including bluegrass. Mass produced commercial country is shit. Blues is good. Rap is shit.

Objectively false.
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Postby Cekoviu » Fri Mar 23, 2018 8:36 am

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MERIZoC wrote:The racism part is inaccurate, but otherwise yeah, it reflects elitist urban attitudes towards “hicks and hillbillies”

Are "Hicks and hillbillies" a distinct ethnic group?
This may be not be technically correct but racism is a word that describes hatred against such types.

Operating upon the same assumptions behind Merizoc's statement about rap, hatred of country would also imply racism against whites.
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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Mar 23, 2018 8:42 am

Cekoviu wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:17th Century country is pretty good. Much rural folk music is, including bluegrass. Mass produced commercial country is shit. Blues is good. Rap is shit.

Objectively false.

Ya hard rock, rock, metal, and heavy metal are the best.
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Postby Salus Maior » Fri Mar 23, 2018 8:47 am

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Uiiop wrote:Are "Hicks and hillbillies" a distinct ethnic group?
This may be not be technically correct but racism is a word that describes hatred against such types.

Operating upon the same assumptions behind Merizoc's statement about rap, hatred of country would also imply racism against whites.


Skin color has no bearing on how garbage someone's music is.

In fact, if one is hiding behind their skin color to defend their music, it's basically guaranteed that it's garbage on any real merit.
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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Mar 23, 2018 8:48 am

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Cekoviu wrote:Operating upon the same assumptions behind Merizoc's statement about rap, hatred of country would also imply racism against whites.


Skin color has no bearing on how garbage someone's music is.

In fact, if one is hiding behind their skin color to defend their music, it's basically guaranteed that it's garbage on any real merit.

Ya but not all rap is shitty just as not all country is crap. Though country-rap is crap
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Postby The Xenopolis Confederation » Fri Mar 23, 2018 8:49 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:Objectively false.

Ya hard rock, rock, metal, and heavy metal are the best.

This. (But also Psychedelic Rock and Prog Rock).
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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Mar 23, 2018 8:49 am

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Ya hard rock, rock, metal, and heavy metal are the best.

This. (But also Psychedelic Rock and Prog Rock).

I’ll agree to that
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Postby Democratic Communist Federation » Fri Mar 23, 2018 8:59 am

Uiiop wrote:Are "Hicks and hillbillies" a distinct ethnic group?


Having lived in Southern Appalachia for 4 years, most people I knew who grew up in that area proudly called themselves hillbillies. They are definitely a distinct ethnicity. It literally took me a year to understand their accent (without often asking them to repeat what they said over and over again) and their rather unique slang expressions.
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Postby Uiiop » Fri Mar 23, 2018 9:18 am

Cekoviu wrote:
Uiiop wrote:Are "Hicks and hillbillies" a distinct ethnic group?
This may be not be technically correct but racism is a word that describes hatred against such types.

Operating upon the same assumptions behind Merizoc's statement about rap, hatred of country would also imply racism against whites.

So? That still sounds like a good partial explanation for Country as does Rap.
It's only that the bigotry is aimed at ethnic sub-groups in Country's case.
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Cekoviu wrote:Operating upon the same assumptions behind Merizoc's statement about rap, hatred of country would also imply racism against whites.


Skin color has no bearing on how garbage someone's music is.

In fact, if one is hiding behind their skin color to defend their music, it's basically guaranteed that it's garbage on any real merit.

There's a difference between a defense of one own art and a whole genre tbf.
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Postby Cekoviu » Fri Mar 23, 2018 9:18 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:Objectively false.

Ya hard rock, rock, metal, and heavy metal are the best.

Subjectively false.
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Postby Uiiop » Fri Mar 23, 2018 9:24 am

Cekoviu wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Ya hard rock, rock, metal, and heavy metal are the best.

Subjectively false.

There is no rock there is only jazz and metal jazz. :p
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Postby Reikoku » Fri Mar 23, 2018 9:25 am

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The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:Democracy and authoritarianism are not at odds, necessarily. Doesn't mean authoritarianism is good, just that it can be democratic.


IMO, proletarian democracy and authoritarianism are polar opposites.


Proletarian “““democracy””” seems to be no different from Fascist corporatism when put into practice.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Fri Mar 23, 2018 9:29 am

Cekoviu wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:17th Century country is pretty good. Much rural folk music is, including bluegrass. Mass produced commercial country is shit. Blues is good. Rap is shit.

Objectively false.


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Postby Democratic Communist Federation » Fri Mar 23, 2018 9:43 am

Reikoku wrote:Proletarian “““democracy””” seems to be no different from Fascist corporatism when put into practice.


That statement literally makes no sense.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Fri Mar 23, 2018 11:08 am

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I've consistently defended furries whenever the topic has come up, which is usually when people who aren't furries feel the need to talk about them and how uncool they are when they're not around, much like the christian pastors and their need to denounce homosex.

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Postby Liriena » Fri Mar 23, 2018 11:10 am

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Ostroeuropa wrote:
I've consistently defended furries whenever the topic has come up, which is usually when people who aren't furries feel the need to talk about them and how uncool they are when they're not around, much like the christian pastors and their need to denounce homosex.

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Postby Cekoviu » Fri Mar 23, 2018 12:26 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:Objectively false.


A socialist who can't appreciate The Bourgeois Blues, smdh

Not a socialist, thanks.
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Fri Mar 23, 2018 12:28 pm

Fascism's leftist?
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Postby Cekoviu » Fri Mar 23, 2018 12:30 pm

Kubumba Tribe wrote:Fascism's leftist?

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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Fri Mar 23, 2018 12:31 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:Fascism's leftist?

Thatsthejoke.jpg

Oh, ok.
But still, I betcha a good amount of people seriously picked that choice.
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This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Postby MERIZoC » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:05 pm

A good amount of people in this thread are fascists

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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:11 pm

MERIZoC wrote:A good amount of people in this thread are fascists

This tbqh, we got swamped by far-right RWDT migrants in the past few weeks.
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Postby Reikoku » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:44 pm

Democratic Communist Federation wrote:
Reikoku wrote:Proletarian “““democracy””” seems to be no different from Fascist corporatism when put into practice.


That statement literally makes no sense.


It does to people who are familiar with Fascism.
Kubumba Tribe wrote:Fascism's leftist?


It tends to vary from what I've seen. Some were, some weren't.

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Postby The Liberated Territories » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:46 pm

Kubumba Tribe wrote:Fascism's leftist?


yes
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Postby The Liberated Territories » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:48 pm

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