Left Wing Discussion Thread IV: Oh Hai Marx

[Thermodolia]

Yup. It’s going to be great, ive waited forever to see it

I admit to having dl'd it early, but still gotta see it in theatres
I mean, it was legit funny. You get funny guys together and tell em "be funny" and it's funny.
gets less funny round the end tho.

The trailer had me dying laughing

[Torrocca]

And the wall shows itself at last!



You dare implicate the fourth-cousin of Comrade Stalin himself, comrade?!



We've been bamboozled, comrades! Quick, onto the Trans-Siberian Railway!

but comrade

it is winter the trains are frozen

THEN WE SHALL MOVE THEM WITH MANPOWER ALONE.

[Kubra]

I admit to having dl'd it early, but still gotta see it in theatres
I mean, it was legit funny. You get funny guys together and tell em "be funny" and it's funny.

I will admit I don’t know what that is.

It's a period comedy about Stalin's death and the following power struggle.
Also, Steve Buscemi is Khrushchev. I mean, that's all you need to know.

[Tule]

Which is more important in modern society: The military or healthcare?

Healthcare.

I would argue it's the military.

For starters, preventing early deaths is primarily a matter of sanitation and good habits. Healthcare has had very little impact on overall life expectancy of people.

Second, the foundation of the state and securing a continuous stream of tax revenue means protecting the existence of the state and its sovereignty for the foreseeable future.

[Democratic Communist Federation]

I would argue it's the military.

I would not trust the military with munitions.

[New Emeline]

I will admit I don’t know what that is.

It's a period comedy about Stalin's death and the following power struggle.
Also, Steve Buscemi is Khrushchev. I mean, that's all you need to know.

Sounds interesting. I’ll check it out.

[Tule]

I would argue it's the military.

I would not trust the military with munitions.

Less so than another country's military with munitions?

[Kubra]

It's a period comedy about Stalin's death and the following power struggle.
Also, Steve Buscemi is Khrushchev. I mean, that's all you need to know.

Sounds interesting. I’ll check it out.

Comes out friday, go see it

[New Emeline]

Sounds interesting. I’ll check it out.

Comes out friday, go see it

I will. Probably not Friday, though.

[Kubra]

Comes out friday, go see it

I will. Probably not Friday, though.

Well y'know whenever
So long as you've got the feel of british comedy (it's british comedy through and through, which is love or hate) then it's great.

[Democratic Communist Federation]

Less so than another country's military with munitions?

First, I am a communist internationalist, not an American nationalist or patriot. Second, I oppose the American Empire and anything which advances its hegemony.

[Bakery Hill]

Apparently you are unaware that you are in a thread filled with many communists.

I would consider myself leftist to an extent-but also libertarian, conservative, etc. due to being transpartisan, transcending and sort of being both sides to an extent, while not being centrist, which is another discussion-but I would fight communism to the death.
Fascism/Naziism too.

That's just called being confused.

[The Xenopolis Confederation]

Depends on the state. But for America, healthcare is drastically underfunded and the military is drastically overfunded

America has the best funded healthcare system in the world. The funds are just incredibly inefficiently used.

The US military is appropriately funded for its obligations, but the rest of the Western world is complacent and needs to build up its military.

There's no need to build up the military though.

[Bakery Hill]

That's just called being confused.

That's fucking condescending.
I'm Transpartisan, because I disagree with the left, right, and center, but agree with them each on different issues.
There's no fucking confusion about it.

So politely back off.

If you're a Macronist as you seem to say, you're probably just a liberal centrist. That's about it. No need for weird labels.

[Kubra]

That's just called being confused.

That's fucking condescending.
I'm Transpartisan, because I disagree with the left, right, and center, but agree with them each on different issues.
There's no fucking confusion about it.

So politely back off.

oh so like centrism if you insist you're not at all a centrist

[Democratic Communist Federation]

I would fight communism to the death.
Fascism/Naziism too.

Then I would suggest that you familiarize yourself with the various currents of communism. Most modern communists are not Marxist-Leninists or apologists for the former Soviet Union.

[Bakery Hill]

Transpartisanism: "I'm not like other centrists"

[Kubra]

If you're a Macronist as you seem to say, you're probably just a liberal centrist. That's about it. No need for weird labels.

I told you to back off with the ideological condescension(Before anyone accuses me of hypocrisy, no it's not, because of the destructiveness and even evidence of the ideologies I criticized harshly.). Didn't you bloody hear me?
It's not a "weird label", it's a damn legitimate position.
I refuse to label myself as an ideology, because of the partisanship and refusal to compromise, cooperate, or to enact policies from both sides. Centrism is about compromise really, Transpartisanship is about taking economic and social ideas from the left and right and blending them seamlessly without being in the middle ground, which is exactly what centrism is.
So bloody start recognizing this as a legitimate position. I recognize communism and naziism and/or anarchism, and centrism, despite the vagueness of each and despising each-I respect centrism for trying to not be far left or far right, but I despise it for being all about compromise and middle ground, not taking ideas from the left or right, no matter if it's pretty leftist or not. I mostly take inspiration from the left, but have pretty libertarian social leanings, minus being pro-life. Economically I am willing to go leftist or further right, as I'm not ideological in economics, that's why I despise the left/right/center spectrum-ideological cultlike adherence to an economic system, not pragmatism and trying to do what will work and guarantee people prosper.

oh so like centrism if you insist you're not at all a centrist

No, because I'd go leftist-even social democrat-or more pro-market depending on context and what I think the economy needs, and hire the best foreign and domestic advisers.
That's the economic difference. I'm willing to farther left or farther right according to the situation.

What if the situation demands communism

[New Emeline]

I’ve never met someone I could describe as entirely partisan.

[Kubra]

I’ve never met someone I could describe as entirely partisan.

yugoslav partisans

[Bakery Hill]

I’ve never met someone I could describe as entirely partisan.

Partisan usually means aligned to a political party anyway, not aligned to a specific set of values.

[Jelmatt]

If you're a Macronist as you seem to say, you're probably just a liberal centrist. That's about it. No need for weird labels.

I told you to back off with the ideological condescension(Before anyone accuses me of hypocrisy, no it's not, because of the destructiveness and even evidence of the ideologies I criticized harshly.). Didn't you bloody hear me?
It's not a "weird label", it's a damn legitimate position.
I refuse to label myself as an ideology, because of the partisanship and refusal to compromise, cooperate, or to enact policies from both sides. Centrism is about compromise really, Transpartisanship is about taking economic and social ideas from the left and right and blending them seamlessly without being in the middle ground, which is exactly what centrism is.
So bloody start recognizing this as a legitimate position. I recognize communism and naziism and/or anarchism, and centrism, despite the vagueness of each and despising each-I respect centrism for trying to not be far left or far right, but I despise it for being all about compromise and middle ground, not taking ideas from the left or right, no matter if it's pretty leftist or not. I mostly take inspiration from the left, but have pretty libertarian social leanings, minus being pro-life. Economically I am willing to go leftist or further right, as I'm not ideological in economics, that's why I despise the left/right/center spectrum-ideological cultlike adherence to an economic system, not pragmatism and trying to do what will work and guarantee people prosper.

oh so like centrism if you insist you're not at all a centrist

No, because I'd go leftist-even social democrat-or more pro-market depending on context and what I think the economy needs, and hire the best foreign and domestic advisers.
That's the economic difference. I'm willing to farther left or farther right according to the situation.

Centrism isn't restricted to just middle-ground policies, but also political views which mix ideas from the moderate left and right--that includes your idea of "transpartisanism" (mixing ideas from the radical left and right, which I can be almost assured you don't do, would be considered syncretism).

Honestly, call yourself what you want, but please don't be so hostile. We're all... well, if not friends, we're certainly not enemies.

[Ligurria]

The problem with centrism is it doesn't have any kind of core beliefs. People on the far-right and far-left could easily consider themselves centrist. Where you put the line between left and right is completely arbitrary.

[New Emeline]

The problem with centrism is it doesn't have any kind of core beliefs. People on the far-right and far-left could easily consider themselves centrist. Where you put the line between left and right is completely arbitrary.

Yeah, the left-right divide is petty arbitrary.

[Ligurria]

I was going to make a long response to the poll but I realized its a joke. xd