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Was Trotsky Polyamorous?

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The Xenopolis Confederation
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Postby The Xenopolis Confederation » Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:01 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:Not "reactionary" in a conservative sense, but definitely a liberal reactionary

I have a mild fondness for the neoreactionary movement, but I shudder at the thought of being deemed 'liberal'.

God forbid a libertarian be deemed to support individual freedom and equality of opportunity.
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Torrocca
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Postby Torrocca » Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:01 pm

*Bursts in through wall* I heard we were to sentence a comrade to fifty years hard labor in a Siberian gulag, and I came as fast as I could!
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Jelmatt
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Postby Jelmatt » Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:01 pm

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:
Jelmatt wrote:
Comrades, arrest this man!

Typical regressive left, smh. What is this, 1984? Totalitarian Authoritarian Collectivist Orwellian Dictatorial. (TACO'd for short). Infringing on my freeze peach.


Why would you ever put peaches on your TACOs? That's just revolting.
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What did custom stern divide,
Every man becomes a brother,
Where thy gentle wings abide." -- Ode to Joy (translated from German)
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Aillyria wrote:That's Capitalism's natural tendency, tbh.


The market is the people Aillyria. You should know this. And if the people want hentai, who are we to question?
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Tule
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Postby Tule » Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:02 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Tule wrote:Which is more important in modern society: The military or healthcare?

Depends on the state. But for America, healthcare is drastically underfunded and the military is drastically overfunded


America has the best funded healthcare system in the world. The funds are just incredibly inefficiently used.

The US military is appropriately funded for its obligations, but the rest of the Western world is complacent and needs to build up its military.
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Northern Davincia
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Postby Northern Davincia » Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:02 pm

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:I have a mild fondness for the neoreactionary movement, but I shudder at the thought of being deemed 'liberal'.

God forbid a libertarian be deemed to support individual freedom and equality of opportunity.

Classical liberalism is an obsolete title. It's been stolen by collectivists.
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Torrocca
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Postby Torrocca » Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:05 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:God forbid a libertarian be deemed to support individual freedom and equality of opportunity.

Classical liberalism is an obsolete title. It's been stolen by collectivists.


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Thermodolia
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:05 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:I have a mild fondness for the neoreactionary movement, but I shudder at the thought of being deemed 'liberal'.

Well you are certainly not conservative

There you go with your no true Scotsman bullshit again
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Postby Kubra » Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:07 pm

Torrocca wrote:*Bursts in through wall* I heard we were to sentence a comrade to fifty years hard labor in a Siberian gulag, and I came as fast as I could!
And you are under arrest for sabotage of a government office, you wall wrecker.
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Postby Torrocca » Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:08 pm

Kubra wrote:
Torrocca wrote:*Bursts in through wall* I heard we were to sentence a comrade to fifty years hard labor in a Siberian gulag, and I came as fast as I could!
And you are under arrest for sabotage of a government office, you wall wrecker.


That wall was a bourgeoisie imperialist spy, comrade! You're under arrest for harboring enemies of the state!
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:09 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Kubra wrote: And you are under arrest for sabotage of a government office, you wall wrecker.


That wall was a bourgeoisie imperialist spy, comrade! You're under arrest for harboring enemies of the state!

All your all under arrest for anti-party propaganda!!
Male, Jewish, lives somewhere in AZ, Disabled US Military Veteran, Oorah!, I'm GAY!
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>The Sons of Adam: I'd crown myself monarch... cuz why not?
>>Dumb Ideologies: Why not turn yourself into a penguin and build an igloo at the centre of the Earth?
Click for Da Funies

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Postby New Emeline » Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:10 pm

Torrocca wrote:*Bursts in through wall* I heard we were to sentence a comrade to fifty years hard labor in a Siberian gulag, and I came as fast as I could!

‘‘Twas me.
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Kubra
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Postby Kubra » Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:10 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
That wall was a bourgeoisie imperialist spy, comrade! You're under arrest for harboring enemies of the state!

All your all under arrest for anti-party propaganda!!
нет, this has merely been an act to expose your plot to arrest us all.
“Atomic war is inevitable. It will destroy half of humanity: it is going to destroy immense human riches. It is very possible. The atomic war is going to provoke a true inferno on Earth. But it will not impede Communism.”
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Jelmatt
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Postby Jelmatt » Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:10 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Kubra wrote: And you are under arrest for sabotage of a government office, you wall wrecker.


That wall was a bourgeoisie imperialist spy, comrade! You're under arrest for harboring enemies of the state!


SILENCE!

The Lenin-Stalin Democratic People's Court of Socialist Heroic Labor will decide your case soon after the trial of New Emeline!
This nation does not represent my actual views. A semi-feudal absolute monarchy going through political upheaval.

Leftist; democratic socialist with a helping of civic republicanism.



"Thy enchantments bind together,
What did custom stern divide,
Every man becomes a brother,
Where thy gentle wings abide." -- Ode to Joy (translated from German)
The Liberated Territories wrote:
Aillyria wrote:That's Capitalism's natural tendency, tbh.


The market is the people Aillyria. You should know this. And if the people want hentai, who are we to question?
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New Emeline
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Postby New Emeline » Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:11 pm

Actually, you’re all under arrest for doubting the loyalty of a member of the state!
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Kubra
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Postby Kubra » Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:11 pm

also for you non brits death of stalin is about to hit theatres
ya'll gonna see it?
“Atomic war is inevitable. It will destroy half of humanity: it is going to destroy immense human riches. It is very possible. The atomic war is going to provoke a true inferno on Earth. But it will not impede Communism.”
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Postby Torrocca » Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:12 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
That wall was a bourgeoisie imperialist spy, comrade! You're under arrest for harboring enemies of the state!

All your all under arrest for anti-party propaganda!!


And the wall shows itself at last!

Jelmatt wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
That wall was a bourgeoisie imperialist spy, comrade! You're under arrest for harboring enemies of the state!


SILENCE!

The Lenin-Stalin Democratic People's Court of Socialist Heroic Labor will decide your case soon after the trial of New Emeline!


You dare implicate the fourth-cousin of Comrade Stalin himself, comrade?!

New Emeline wrote:Actually, you’re all under arrest for doubting the loyalty of a member of the state!


We've been bamboozled, comrades! Quick, onto the Trans-Siberian Railway!
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Democratic Communist Federation
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Postby Democratic Communist Federation » Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:13 pm

New Emeline wrote:Why is that your metric and not, say, sapience?


Well, obviously my response was not serious.
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Postby New Emeline » Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:14 pm

Democratic Communist Federation wrote:
New Emeline wrote:Why is that your metric and not, say, sapience?


Well, obviously my response was not serious.

Ah, but I am not very smart at reading computer sarcasm.
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Thermodolia
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:14 pm

Kubra wrote:also for you non brits death of stalin is about to hit theatres
ya'll gonna see it?

Yup. It’s going to be great, ive waited forever to see it
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I'm agent #69 in the Gaystapo!
>The Sons of Adam: I'd crown myself monarch... cuz why not?
>>Dumb Ideologies: Why not turn yourself into a penguin and build an igloo at the centre of the Earth?
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Postby Democratic Communist Federation » Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:14 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:I'm mainly just criticizing his self-righteous stance that says we must accept a destructive ideology akin to naziism, fascism, theocracy, laissez-faire capitalism, etc.
The ideology must be ostracized, to stop mass death, destruction, and oppression of everyone.


Apparently you are unaware that you are in a thread filled with many communists.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:14 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:Well you are certainly not conservative

There you go with your no true Scotsman bullshit again

To say a Tibetan is not a Scotsman, is not a fallacy
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Kubra
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Postby Kubra » Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:15 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Kubra wrote:also for you non brits death of stalin is about to hit theatres
ya'll gonna see it?

Yup. It’s going to be great, ive waited forever to see it
I admit to having dl'd it early, but still gotta see it in theatres
I mean, it was legit funny. You get funny guys together and tell em "be funny" and it's funny.
gets less funny round the end tho.
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Postby Democratic Communist Federation » Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:15 pm

Tule wrote:Which is more important in modern society: The military or healthcare?


Healthcare.

Edit: In my country, the military should be made illegal (not being sarcastic on that one). The only people with guns should be revolutionary communists.
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Postby Jelmatt » Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:15 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:All your all under arrest for anti-party propaganda!!


And the wall shows itself at last!

Jelmatt wrote:
SILENCE!

The Lenin-Stalin Democratic People's Court of Socialist Heroic Labor will decide your case soon after the trial of New Emeline!


You dare implicate the fourth-cousin of Comrade Stalin himself, comrade?!

New Emeline wrote:Actually, you’re all under arrest for doubting the loyalty of a member of the state!


We've been bamboozled, comrades! Quick, onto the Trans-Siberian Railway!


but comrade

it is winter the trains are frozen
This nation does not represent my actual views. A semi-feudal absolute monarchy going through political upheaval.

Leftist; democratic socialist with a helping of civic republicanism.



"Thy enchantments bind together,
What did custom stern divide,
Every man becomes a brother,
Where thy gentle wings abide." -- Ode to Joy (translated from German)
The Liberated Territories wrote:
Aillyria wrote:That's Capitalism's natural tendency, tbh.


The market is the people Aillyria. You should know this. And if the people want hentai, who are we to question?
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New Emeline
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Postby New Emeline » Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:15 pm

Kubra wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Yup. It’s going to be great, ive waited forever to see it
I admit to having dl'd it early, but still gotta see it in theatres
I mean, it was legit funny. You get funny guys together and tell em "be funny" and it's funny.

I will admit I don’t know what that is.
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