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Was Trotsky Polyamorous?

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Yes
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Jelmatt
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Postby Jelmatt » Wed Mar 21, 2018 7:40 pm

Kubra wrote:
Eternal Lotharia wrote:
And your point was nothing but slander based on faulty logic.
But very well.
lol buddy if you got something against slander you in the wrong thread

try wrong website
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What did custom stern divide,
Every man becomes a brother,
Where thy gentle wings abide."
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The Liberated Territories wrote:
Aillyria wrote:That's Capitalism's natural tendency, tbh.


The market is the people Aillyria. You should know this. And if the people want hentai, who are we to question?

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Kubra
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Postby Kubra » Wed Mar 21, 2018 7:42 pm

Bakery Hill wrote:
Eternal Lotharia wrote:Cash, the pleasures of the world, power, influence.
Lots of stuff Communism cannot provide.

Do people want cash because they like paper and/or polymer?
before a few years ago I was always broke, because I could not stand paper.
These days, I got a vault full of sweet, sweet polymer.
I run it through a could cycle in the wash with maple syrup detergent, there's no other way to wash a canadian $100
“Atomic war is inevitable. It will destroy half of humanity: it is going to destroy immense human riches. It is very possible. The atomic war is going to provoke a true inferno on Earth. But it will not impede Communism.”
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New Emeline
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Postby New Emeline » Wed Mar 21, 2018 7:45 pm

So comrades, what are we arguing about now?

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Postby Kubra » Wed Mar 21, 2018 7:46 pm

New Emeline wrote:So comrades, what are we arguing about now?
whether or not to purge you
“Atomic war is inevitable. It will destroy half of humanity: it is going to destroy immense human riches. It is very possible. The atomic war is going to provoke a true inferno on Earth. But it will not impede Communism.”
Comrade J. Posadas

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Postby Jelmatt » Wed Mar 21, 2018 7:47 pm

New Emeline wrote:So comrades, what are we arguing about now?

whether robots should be unionized to prevent robot revolt or if we should accept our new robot overlords

oh, yeah, and what Kubra said too
Last edited by Jelmatt on Wed Mar 21, 2018 7:48 pm, edited 1 time in total.
This nation does not represent my actual views. A semi-feudal absolute monarchy going through political upheaval.

Leftist; democratic socialist with a helping of civic republicanism.



"Thy enchantments bind together,
What did custom stern divide,
Every man becomes a brother,
Where thy gentle wings abide."
-- Ode to Joy (translated from German)
The Liberated Territories wrote:
Aillyria wrote:That's Capitalism's natural tendency, tbh.


The market is the people Aillyria. You should know this. And if the people want hentai, who are we to question?

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The Parkus Empire
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Wed Mar 21, 2018 7:47 pm

Kubra wrote:
New Emeline wrote:So comrades, what are we arguing about now?
whether or not to purge you

We already agreed. Now it's time for the trial
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Mar 21, 2018 7:49 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Kubra wrote: whether or not to purge you

We already agreed. Now it's time for the trial

What trial? Their fate has already been decided. This is a sentencing!!
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Postby New Emeline » Wed Mar 21, 2018 7:49 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Kubra wrote: whether or not to purge you

We already agreed. Now it's time for the trial

:shock: what did I do this time?

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Postby Democratic Communist Federation » Wed Mar 21, 2018 7:50 pm

Jelmatt wrote:whether robots should be unionized to prevent robot revolt or if we should accept our new robot overlords


Robots should only be unionized if they can both produce and reproduce.
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Postby Kubra » Wed Mar 21, 2018 7:50 pm

New Emeline wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:We already agreed. Now it's time for the trial

:shock: what did I do this time?
we do not know your stance on whether or not the soviet union was a degenerate workers state or a state of degenerated workers
We, of course, assume the worst.
“Atomic war is inevitable. It will destroy half of humanity: it is going to destroy immense human riches. It is very possible. The atomic war is going to provoke a true inferno on Earth. But it will not impede Communism.”
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Postby New Emeline » Wed Mar 21, 2018 7:50 pm

Democratic Communist Federation wrote:
Jelmatt wrote:whether robots should be unionized to prevent robot revolt or if we should accept our new robot overlords


Robots should only be unionized if they can both produce and reproduce.

Why is that your metric and not, say, sapience?

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The Parkus Empire
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Wed Mar 21, 2018 7:52 pm

New Emeline wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:We already agreed. Now it's time for the trial

:shock: what did I do this time?

We will be happy to tell you once you've confessed
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Jelmatt
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Postby Jelmatt » Wed Mar 21, 2018 7:53 pm

Kubra wrote:
New Emeline wrote: :shock: what did I do this time?
we do not know your stance on whether or not the soviet union was a degenerate workers state or a state of degenerated workers
We, of course, assume the worst.


Now, answer us: where were you on the night of March 23rd, 2018?

The Parkus Empire wrote:
New Emeline wrote: :shock: what did I do this time?

We will be happy to tell you once you've confessed


Why tell? Why not just kill?
Last edited by Jelmatt on Wed Mar 21, 2018 7:54 pm, edited 1 time in total.
This nation does not represent my actual views. A semi-feudal absolute monarchy going through political upheaval.

Leftist; democratic socialist with a helping of civic republicanism.



"Thy enchantments bind together,
What did custom stern divide,
Every man becomes a brother,
Where thy gentle wings abide."
-- Ode to Joy (translated from German)
The Liberated Territories wrote:
Aillyria wrote:That's Capitalism's natural tendency, tbh.


The market is the people Aillyria. You should know this. And if the people want hentai, who are we to question?

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The Xenopolis Confederation
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Postby The Xenopolis Confederation » Wed Mar 21, 2018 7:54 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:We already agreed. Now it's time for the trial

What trial? Their fate has already been decided. This is a sentencing!!

Wot about their freeze peach?
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Postby Kubra » Wed Mar 21, 2018 7:54 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Kubra wrote: lol buddy if you got something against slander you in the wrong thread

I'm mainly just criticizing his self-righteous stance that says we must accept a destructive ideology akin to naziism, fascism, theocracy, laissez-faire capitalism, etc.
The ideology must be ostracized, to stop mass death, destruction, and oppression of everyone.
better idea
why don't we ostracise liberals for being no fun at all
“Atomic war is inevitable. It will destroy half of humanity: it is going to destroy immense human riches. It is very possible. The atomic war is going to provoke a true inferno on Earth. But it will not impede Communism.”
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Thermodolia
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Mar 21, 2018 7:54 pm

Jelmatt wrote:
Kubra wrote: we do not know your stance on whether or not the soviet union was a degenerate workers state or a state of degenerated workers
We, of course, assume the worst.


Now, answer us: where were you on the night of March 23rd, 2018?

In your cabinet stealing your food
Male, Jewish, lives somewhere in AZ, Disabled US Military Veteran, Oorah!, I'm GAY!
I'm agent #69 in the Gaystapo!
>The Sons of Adam: I'd crown myself monarch... cuz why not?
>>Dumb Ideologies: Why not turn yourself into a penguin and build an igloo at the centre of the Earth?
Click for Da Funies

RIP Dya

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Jelmatt
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Postby Jelmatt » Wed Mar 21, 2018 7:55 pm

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:What trial? Their fate has already been decided. This is a sentencing!!

Wot about their freeze peach?


Comrades, arrest this man!
Last edited by Jelmatt on Wed Mar 21, 2018 7:55 pm, edited 1 time in total.
This nation does not represent my actual views. A semi-feudal absolute monarchy going through political upheaval.

Leftist; democratic socialist with a helping of civic republicanism.



"Thy enchantments bind together,
What did custom stern divide,
Every man becomes a brother,
Where thy gentle wings abide."
-- Ode to Joy (translated from German)
The Liberated Territories wrote:
Aillyria wrote:That's Capitalism's natural tendency, tbh.


The market is the people Aillyria. You should know this. And if the people want hentai, who are we to question?

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Tule
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Postby Tule » Wed Mar 21, 2018 7:55 pm

Which is more important in modern society: The military or healthcare?
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Thermodolia
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Mar 21, 2018 7:55 pm

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:What trial? Their fate has already been decided. This is a sentencing!!

Wot about their freeze peach?

They can freeze their peaches
Male, Jewish, lives somewhere in AZ, Disabled US Military Veteran, Oorah!, I'm GAY!
I'm agent #69 in the Gaystapo!
>The Sons of Adam: I'd crown myself monarch... cuz why not?
>>Dumb Ideologies: Why not turn yourself into a penguin and build an igloo at the centre of the Earth?
Click for Da Funies

RIP Dya

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Kubra
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Postby Kubra » Wed Mar 21, 2018 7:55 pm

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:What trial? Their fate has already been decided. This is a sentencing!!

Wot about their freeze peach?
It's already been expropriated and will make a lovely brandy
“Atomic war is inevitable. It will destroy half of humanity: it is going to destroy immense human riches. It is very possible. The atomic war is going to provoke a true inferno on Earth. But it will not impede Communism.”
Comrade J. Posadas

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Postby Northern Davincia » Wed Mar 21, 2018 7:57 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:Very true. I guess it depends on the time of day you travel in.

Me?
Reactionary?

Not "reactionary" in a conservative sense, but definitely a liberal reactionary

I have a mild fondness for the neoreactionary movement, but I shudder at the thought of being deemed 'liberal'.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Wed Mar 21, 2018 7:57 pm

Tule wrote:Which is more important in modern society: The military or healthcare?

Depends on the state. But for America, healthcare is drastically underfunded and the military is drastically overfunded
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Thermodolia
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Mar 21, 2018 7:57 pm

Tule wrote:Which is more important in modern society: The military or healthcare?

Hard choice but I’m gonna go with the military. Because if you don’t have a military to protect your land you will have no people to give healthcare to
Male, Jewish, lives somewhere in AZ, Disabled US Military Veteran, Oorah!, I'm GAY!
I'm agent #69 in the Gaystapo!
>The Sons of Adam: I'd crown myself monarch... cuz why not?
>>Dumb Ideologies: Why not turn yourself into a penguin and build an igloo at the centre of the Earth?
Click for Da Funies

RIP Dya

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Postby The Parkus Empire » Wed Mar 21, 2018 7:58 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:Not "reactionary" in a conservative sense, but definitely a liberal reactionary

I have a mild fondness for the neoreactionary movement, but I shudder at the thought of being deemed 'liberal'.

Well you are certainly not conservative
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Postby The Xenopolis Confederation » Wed Mar 21, 2018 7:59 pm

Jelmatt wrote:
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:Wot about their freeze peach?


Comrades, arrest this man!

Typical regressive left, smh. What is this, 1984? Totalitarian Authoritarian Collectivist Orwellian Dictatorial. (TACO'd for short). Infringing on my freeze peach.
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