Left Wing Discussion Thread IV: Oh Hai Marx

[Albrenia]

Unregulated immigration can be a threat, especially if it begins to overwhelm local services and I frastructure, as well as the possibility of bringing along with it diseases.

None of those issues are what the great replacement theory suggests. The idea of the great replacement is basically just the white genocide conspiracy theory with nicer packaging.

Basically people wanting to find an excuse for their xenophobia who are too gutless to just admit what they really think.

[Proctopeo]

More of a reactionary pseudoskeptic, tbh. I'm glad you stopped.

So...is the great replacement a load of farce?

Anything resembling it is the result of total incompetence and not a conspiracy, at least in the most likely scenario (that is, "government officials are idiots").

[Sovaal]

Unregulated immigration can be a threat, especially if it begins to overwhelm local services and I frastructure, as well as the possibility of bringing along with it diseases.

None of those issues are what the great replacement theory suggests. The idea of the great replacement is basically just the white genocide conspiracy theory with nicer packaging.

Eh, you don’t need to be a white supremacist to acknowledge that completely unregulated immigration is a possible threat.

[Sovaal]

So...is the great replacement a load of farce?

Anything resembling it is the result of total incompetence and not a conspiracy, at least in the most likely scenario (that is, "government officials are idiots").

Which tends to be the majority of the time.

[New Emeline]

None of those issues are what the great replacement theory suggests. The idea of the great replacement is basically just the white genocide conspiracy theory with nicer packaging.

Eh, you don’t need to be a white supremacist to acknowledge that completely unregulated immigration is a possible threat.

I understand that, but the great replacement idea isn't just "immigration is dangerous". It is specifically "immigration is dangerous because white people are going to be outnumbered".

[The Parkus Empire]

None of those issues are what the great replacement theory suggests. The idea of the great replacement is basically just the white genocide conspiracy theory with nicer packaging.

Basically people wanting to find an excuse for their xenophobia who are too gutless to just admit what they really think.

Xenophobia needs no excuse! Xenophobia is a noble lady. We should have a Statue of Xenophobia.

[New Emeline]

Basically people wanting to find an excuse for their xenophobia who are too gutless to just admit what they really think.

Xenophobia needs no excuse! Xenophobia is a noble lady. We should have a Statue of Xenophobia.

Er, what?

[Albrenia]

Basically people wanting to find an excuse for their xenophobia who are too gutless to just admit what they really think.

Xenophobia needs no excuse! Xenophobia is a noble lady. We should have a Statue of Xenophobia.

They should give her a TV show.

Xenophobia: Warrior Princess.

[Sovaal]

Eh, you don’t need to be a white supremacist to acknowledge that completely unregulated immigration is a possible threat.

I understand that, but the great replacement idea isn't just "immigration is dangerous". It is specifically "immigration is dangerous because white people are going to be outnumbered".

Well in that’s case that sounds pretty stupid.

[The Parkus Empire]

Xenophobia needs no excuse! Xenophobia is a noble lady. We should have a Statue of Xenophobia.

Er, what?

With a plaque underneath, reading: THE RIDE STOPS HERE

[New Emeline]

I understand that, but the great replacement idea isn't just "immigration is dangerous". It is specifically "immigration is dangerous because white people are going to be outnumbered".

Well in that’s case that sounds pretty stupid.

Yeah. Twas me point.

[The Parkus Empire]

Xenophobia needs no excuse! Xenophobia is a noble lady. We should have a Statue of Xenophobia.

They should give her a TV show.

Xenophobia: Warrior Princess.

The theme could be our new national anthem

[New Emeline]

Isn't Xenophobia the name of one of the Ender's Game sequels?

[The Multiversal Communist Collective]

Why?

The late Christopher Hitchens started out as a Trotskyist, but he moved, unfortunately, into neoconservatism.

[The Multiversal Communist Collective]

Yes. Be prepared for a lot of existentialist themes which might not make sense if you haven't read Sartre though.

Sartre's existential Marxism has all but died out. However, that gives some enterprising individual the opportunity to rediscover him and bring him into the 21ˢᵗ century.

[Cekoviu]

Why?

The late Christopher Hitchens started out as a Trotskyist, but he moved, unfortunately, into neoconservatism.

Was he really a neocon? I didn't know that.

[The Xenopolis Confederation]

Then what is he if not a skeptic?

No, I used to watch but I've kinda lost interest.

More of a reactionary pseudoskeptic, tbh. I'm glad you stopped.

A non-progressive does not a reactionary make.

[The Xenopolis Confederation]

Why?

The late Christopher Hitchens started out as a Trotskyist, but he moved, unfortunately, into neoconservatism.

You think anyone who dislikes Islam is a neo-con though. You think Harris and Nawaz are neo-cons.

[United Muscovite Nations]

The late Christopher Hitchens started out as a Trotskyist, but he moved, unfortunately, into neoconservatism.

You think anyone who dislikes Islam is a neo-con though. You think Harris and Nawaz are neo-cons.

He supported toppling any dictator who wasn't a liberal democrat, that's being a neocon.

[The Xenopolis Confederation]

You think anyone who dislikes Islam is a neo-con though. You think Harris and Nawaz are neo-cons.

He supported toppling any dictator who wasn't a liberal democrat, that's being a neocon.

Did he tho?

[Questers]

more or less yeah.

[Albrenia]

You think anyone who dislikes Islam is a neo-con though. You think Harris and Nawaz are neo-cons.

He supported toppling any dictator who wasn't a liberal democrat, that's being a neocon.

Dictators are generally a bad thing. The only reason we aren't toppling all of them is the cost of money and lives, and the difficulty in properly filling the power vacuum left behind.

[United Muscovite Nations]

He supported toppling any dictator who wasn't a liberal democrat, that's being a neocon.

Did he tho?

Yes, he was an active supporter of the Iraq War and for intervention against Bashar Assad.

[Questers]

He supported toppling any dictator who wasn't a liberal democrat, that's being a neocon.

Dictators are generally a bad thing. The only reason we aren't toppling all of them is the cost of money and lives, and the difficulty in properly filling the power vacuum left behind.

No.

The reason we don't topple some dictators is they do what we want. The reason we do topple some dictators is because they don't do what we want.

[United Muscovite Nations]

He supported toppling any dictator who wasn't a liberal democrat, that's being a neocon.

Dictators are generally a bad thing. The only reason we aren't toppling all of them is the cost of money and lives, and the difficulty in properly filling the power vacuum left behind.

And neocons like Hitchens think that cost is irrelevant because the people living in those countries have to have liberal democracy exported to them at all costs.